Chaos Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Maybe but still weird to me. If someone ran up to me and stabbed me and then ran off, I wouldn't call the cops and tell them I was being stabbed. I would say someone stabbed me. how do you know you would be calm cool and collected after being stabbed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) You guys can roll your eyes all you want. Words matter. Even under duress. Nobody says "I'm being hit and choked" when they aren't actually being hit/choked. I've heard 1000's of real 911 calls on TV shows. I've never heard current tense for past events. So, I find it weird. 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: how do you know you would be calm cool and collected after being stabbed because I know. I dont have to be calm cool collected to use proper tense. But I can see you guys just looking for someone to jump on and be mad at for their opinion so I am going to just drop it now. Other than to say that I no way condone domestic abuse, nor am I implying that Von may be innocent. Edited December 1, 2023 by Scott7975 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Von wanted to be an NFL GM after he retired. He can probably say goodbye to that as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, Scott7975 said: I didn't say he was innocent. I said the statements were weird and I find them to be. He also doesn't have a warrant out for his arrest because he already turned himself in and then bailed himself out. "What a guy?" What do you know about me other than I find the statements weird? There was a warrant out for his arrest. He left the scene after she called the police. Most would would have found his actions much more egregious then maybe having some confusion after being strangled. The police HAD to issue a warrant. Of course he turned himself in. He had no choice. Where your sympathies lay is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, RG Murdock said: There was a warrant out for his arrest. He left the scene after she called the police. Most would would have found his actions much more egregious then maybe having some confusion after being strangled. The police HAD to issue a warrant. Of course he turned himself in. He had no choice. Where your sympathies lay is obvious. I guess that you didnt read my comments earlier when I said if true then I want him off the team. But yeah, hey take one comment and you know all about me and where I stand. Also by her own words she wasn't strangled but Im sure you will go all emo over that statement too Have a nice day Edited December 1, 2023 by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: If the cops have a video then it wouldn't matter what Von/the league said to her. Dallas can prosecute without her. They do. It was mentioned in either that article or another I read. The league is capable of making most things go away. I am hoping Texas stands strong on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Some posters reacting emotionally and irrationally to this developing story with only crumbs to go on. Of course domestic violence against a pregnant partner would be absolutely heinous. But maybe none of us knows $#!& about what really happened, or what happens next. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Mango said: They do. It was mentioned in either that article or another I read. The league is capable of making most things go away. I am hoping Texas stands strong on this one. They can't make it go away. At least not according to the laws that were posted in this thread. Dallas has a "no drop" law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Mango said: They do. It was mentioned in either that article or another I read. The league is capable of making most things go away. I am hoping Texas stands strong on this one. My reading about the recording is that it is an audio recording and not video, but I may be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Reached by text message by WFAA(TV), Miller's girlfriend downplayed the incident. "We’re fine," she wrote. "Things were blown way out of context. This is actually outrageous!" She called the incident "a huge misunderstanding" and described it as "a verbal disagreement." "No one assaulted anyone," she texted. "This is insane. And sad." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: They can't make it go away. At least not according to the laws that were posted in this thread. Dallas has a "no drop" law. It is up to the prosecutor. The person of influence changes but it can be dropped. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 She probably didn't want him to lose his guaranteed money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Ray Finkel said: Now he can get a GM job 😱 Yeah, General Motors probably is hiring. That’s the only GM opportunity he’ll have in the future if this is true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Also by her own words she wasn't strangled but Im sure you will go all emo over that statement too Have a nice day I'm sure were having a better day then your having on this post string... Maybe you should watch more Law & Order. Have a nice day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Why the equipment manager? What did he switch his cup with a smaller one?? We all know why the equipment manager needs to go. We can't share that with you. You are a good dude but that is a bills family matter so we can't talk about it here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Watch this; pretty ugly fact pattern as outlined in the arrest warrant.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: My reading about the recording is that it is an audio recording and not video, but I may be wrong. In the articles it says that at one point Von Miller pulled out his phone and started recording the assault. Later she grabbed a phone out of her pocket and started recording it. If she did so then the police would have looked at it and made copies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Capco said: According to Texas law: Third-Degree Felony Assault If you cut off the normal breathing patterns of a member of your family as defined by law (i.e. if you strangle your girlfriend/boyfriend) to the point they cannot breathe, then you could be facing a Third-Degree Felony assault charge. Additionally, if you assault a member of your family, including your spouse or significant other, and if you have had an assault family violence conviction in the past, you could face a third-degree felony assault charge. The penalty range for a third-degree assault conviction is no less than 2 years in prison and up to 10 years in prison; also, a possible fine not to exceed $10,000. ... So, unless he had a domestic violence conviction in the past, the only way Von could be charged with this crime is if he strangled his pregnant girlfriend...! Actually, Texas law states assault on a pregnant person, not girlfriend. Gotta be correct with your pronouns these days.... I'm joking , but if what is alleged in the 911 call is true, he's as bad as Tyreek, and should be put away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mango said: It is up to the prosecutor. The person of influence changes but it can be dropped. Yeah, it can be dropped but a prosecutor with good evidence is not going to just drop charges because the victim pulls out or the NFL says "hey there guy... you know who I am?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I have no desire to see this guy in a Bills uniform again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Beast said: Von wanted to be an NFL GM after he retired. He can probably say goodbye to that as well. Why? The league doesn’t employ criminals? (If Von is actually guilty of anything) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, TheFunPolice said: I have no desire to see this guy in a Bills uniform again. Just like McD, I fear we will. Owner asleep at the wheel. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: You guys can roll your eyes all you want. Words matter. Even under duress. Nobody says "I'm being hit and choked" when they aren't actually being hit/choked. I've heard 1000's of real 911 calls on TV shows. I've never heard current tense for past events. So, I find it weird. because I know. I dont have to be calm cool collected to use proper tense. But I can see you guys just looking for someone to jump on and be mad at for their opinion so I am going to just drop it now. Other than to say that I no way condone domestic abuse, nor am I implying that Von may be innocent. It’s like guilty until proven innocent nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mango said: They do. It was mentioned in either that article or another I read. The league is capable of making most things go away. I am hoping Texas stands strong on this one. Hate to break it to you but the legal system is a business. Attorneys, judges, the county itself, even the jails all have skin in the game. Money talks, in addition to that prosecutors don't make a career ($$$) by prosecuting losing cases. It's a sad reality of our legal system 19 minutes ago, Mango said: It is up to the prosecutor. The person of influence changes but it can be dropped. Correct 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Yeah, it can be dropped but a prosecutor with good evidence is not going to just drop charges because the victim pulls out or the NFL says "hey there guy... you know who I am?" And from what I know here in Cincinnati, what really hurts Von Miller is that he doesn’t play for the Cowboys. Bengals players get charges dropped all the time because the prosecutor is a season ticket holder. The same thing was true with the previous prosecuted. If this wasn’t the case, Pac Man Jones and Joe Mixon would have had their days in court. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: Just like McD, I fear we will. Owner asleep at the wheel. Nah, I think if he did this dirty crap as it sounds then the team will let him go at some point. It may be not until after they can do some cap stuff but they will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: In the articles it says that at one point Von Miller pulled out his phone and started recording the assault. Later she grabbed a phone out of her pocket and started recording it. If she did so then the police would have looked at it and made copies. Yes, I see now by checking the latest article by WFAA they use the term “filming”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Yeah, it can be dropped but a prosecutor with good evidence is not going to just drop charges because the victim pulls out or the NFL says "hey there guy... you know who I am?" Actually both of these things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, RG Murdock said: I'm sure were having a better day then your having on this post string... Maybe you should watch more Law & Order. Have a nice day. I'm having a fine day. I just don't have irrational pitchforks out over a comment on a forum. Again, I didn't say dude was innocent. Just that I find the comments weird. I like to pick ***** apart. Law and Order oh you so funny hahaha. I will thanks. 1 minute ago, Mango said: Actually both of these things happen. If they do then the prosecutor is a scumbag too. No prosecutor should drop a case they have good evidence on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierlifer Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: I'm having a fine day. I just don't have irrational pitchforks out over a comment on a forum. Again, I didn't say dude was innocent. Just that I find the comments weird. I like to pick ***** apart. Law and Order oh you so funny hahaha. I will thanks. And besides, Matlock is where it’s at and where I got my law degree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Of course Miller has the Ehrhoff contract which has 5 years left no matter how many years go by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 50 minutes ago, zow2 said: Amazon pregame show got very serious with the report about Von. On the football side the country probably thinks the Bills will be sunk without him. Little do they know the defensive line snap counts just improved. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 48 minutes ago, Irv said: Another reason to ditch the bye week. NFLPA f'd up. Way to deflect blame for another NFL thug. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Football wise Von is a drag on the Bills but for some reason people act like he's a major piece of the team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Process said: ...... hmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Football wise Von is a drag on the Bills but for some reason people act like he's a major piece of the team He's a major piece of the salary cap. That's more of the issue from a football standpoint IMO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Process said: ...... How sad is it that we are hoping he did it, that’s she is ok and he’s off the team 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 How do I link the Von signing with the Bills thread here? Can’t say I’ve enjoy the Von experience though all the facts aren’t out. But this just sums up this season. It’s not fun and it’s been so fun for the last few years. This sucks. and whatever in that situation (he’s a garbage human being if he hurt her and she’s dumb for staying with him), why adults stay in toxic relationships is so crazy to me. I feel bad for the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 She was probably just confused when she called the police and made all of those claims. It's totally understandable. Sadly, this is how domestic calls go the majority of the time. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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