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This is wrong but my first thought is "Does he have a morality clause in his contract we can leverage?"   EDIT: Just in case this needs to be said.  Abusing anyone is wrong, but especially a

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Between the HC, record, salary cap situation, and now this, this organization is a huge mess.   Clean house from the top all the way down to the janitor.   I’m gonna need a new use

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Anything that reduces Von’s snap count will be a net positive for the Bills’ defense.

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10 minutes ago, mannc said:

It's been reported that there is a clause in Miller's contract that allows the Bills to void the remainder of his contract if he violates the league's personal conduct policy, but I'm not sure what sort of dead cap hit that would entail.

 

I would hope there would be no dead cap hit given the circumstances.

 

The Bills aren't the Dolphins or Chiefs, teams OK with keeping domestic violence abusers on their roster, he's got to be gone as soon as possible no matter what.

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1 minute ago, boyst said:

Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*?

 

He was under contract, right?


If he was, and NE had to take dead cap hits, you’d think teams would protect themselves from that in the future, no?

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https://www.espn.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4744681/revisiting-details-of-hernandez-contract

 

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For those asking what the salary cap charge would be in the event the Patriots ever decided to terminate the contract, the charge would be the acceleration of the $12.5 million signing bonus. If that happened in 2013, Hernandez would count $2.55 million against the salary cap, and then in 2014 would carry a cap charge of $7.5 million from the remaining proration on the signing bonus.

 

One other factor to consider: A club can recover bonus money and avoid a cap hit if a player violates one of the league's personal conduct policies or defaults on contract language.

 

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9 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said:

So just how ugly were those Soccer Moms when you picked him up from school today?  

My wife picked him up and she just found out about the news. She yells at our son, “I told you to wear the Allen jersey!”

 

 

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7 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

This is now on ABC world news tonight!!

 

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Teams go decades never making national news.  4x in two years.  
 

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9 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

I would hope there would be no dead cap hit given the circumstances.

 

The Bills aren't the Dolphins or Chiefs, teams OK with keeping domestic violence abusers on their roster, he's got to be gone as soon as possible no matter what.

Someone upthread indicated that the Bills would still be stuck with the dead cap hit, just as the Raiders were in the Ruggs situation.  I'm sure the team is thoroughly investigating all the ins and outs here.   

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I read somewhere today that the woman he assaulted was his SEVEN YEAR companion. If the latter is true, then that is really, really sad.

 

Yes, I know it's sad/bad that (if true), he did this to any woman, but IMHO, there would be a difference if it was some escort or ONS vs a woman he obviously loves/loved, and has a LTR with.

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Someone upthread indicated that the Bills would still be stuck with the dead cap hit, just as the Raiders were in the Ruggs situation.  I'm sure the team is thoroughly investigating all the ins and outs here.   


This seems crazy.  
 

What if a QB did this?  What if multiple players on a team all violate personal conduct together.  Team just has to fold up shop for years?

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15 minutes ago, boyst said:

Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*?

 

He was under contract, right?

He was convicted and the Pats still had to pay him.

 

I believe that's why they have the clause in most contracts related to suspensions/arrests/convictions in pretty much every contract now.

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1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Exactly.  You can tell the people (not everyone) that are just jumping for joy over this because they think it's an easy out on this contract.  Same people would be hating it if Von was playing at his elite level.  I'm disgusted either way if this is true.

 

Some guys are turning this situation into "fire everyone" "clean house" "the organization is a mess."  "what can we save on his contract" "easy out." etc.. This is just disgusting in itself. 


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5 minutes ago, mannc said:

Someone upthread indicated that the Bills would still be stuck with the dead cap hit, just as the Raiders were in the Ruggs situation.  I'm sure the team is thoroughly investigating all the ins and outs here.   

 

That would really suck if that is the case.....would really put the Bills in a no win situation.

 

 

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On a side note, I'd be curious as to what the Bills' Mafia "Babes" take on this situation is. They tarred and feathered Ariaza, and wanted him put away for years/decades without a trial or due process, just based solely on what some blacked-out drunken drugged college student said because she remembers seeing him at the party (probably the only person she could recognize). Some of these self-proclaimed "babes" wanted Ariaza put away just to make an example of him even when her testimony fell apart in shambles. Who says stuff like that? Are these "babes" rioting and pitchforking the streets over a guy who's accused of assaulting and putting bruises on the belly of his pregnant gf or whomever she is.

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1 minute ago, Special K said:

 

That would really suck if that is the case.....would really put the Bills in a no win situation.

 

 

at this point it's more of a "lose by 1 or lose by 30" situation.  They are going to have to get rid of him if they really believe the "culture" they are telling everyone day after day.

 

Now it's a matter of if they are cutting him and eating a ton of money or cutting him and eating some of that money.

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19 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

I would hope there would be no dead cap hit given the circumstances.

 

The Bills aren't the Dolphins or Chiefs, teams OK with keeping domestic violence abusers on their roster, he's got to be gone as soon as possible no matter what.

so no trial or due process? just kicked to the curb because he stands accused? 

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3 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

On a side note, I'd be curious as to what the Bills' Mafia "Babes" take on this situation is. They tarred and feathered Ariaza, and wanted him put away for years/decades without a trial or due process, just based solely on what some blacked-out drunken drugged college student said because she remembers seeing him at the party (probably the only person she could recognize). Some of these self-proclaimed "babes" wanted Ariaza put away just to make an example of him even when her testimony fell apart in shambles. Who says stuff like that? Are these "babes" rioting and pitchforking the streets over a guy who's accused of assaulting and putting bruises on the belly of his pregnant gf or whomever she is.

You can see for yourself.  Haven't seen a lot from their official other than this but can only imagine how many tags they have.

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, boyst said:

Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*?

 

He was under contract, right?

Hernandez murdered someone. I don't know if this is treated the same. Domestic violence is bad but what Hernandez did is worse

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14 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

On a side note, I'd be curious as to what the Bills' Mafia "Babes" take on this situation is. They tarred and feathered Ariaza, and wanted him put away for years/decades without a trial or due process, just based solely on what some blacked-out drunken drugged college student said because she remembers seeing him at the party (probably the only person she could recognize). Some of these self-proclaimed "babes" wanted Ariaza put away just to make an example of him even when her testimony fell apart in shambles. Who says stuff like that? Are these "babes" rioting and pitchforking the streets over a guy who's accused of assaulting and putting bruises on the belly of his pregnant gf or whomever she is.

They also wanted Watsons nuts in a vice without really hearing anything on that also even after the case got thrown out of 2 grand juries. I do think the Miller thing is legit simply because of the arrest warrant. But that's my response to the Mafia babes

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The poster did make it sound that way but the ABC News piece was simply a restating of the police report that has been released. Von’s girlfriend did not appear on the broadcast. 

 

Thanks.

I thought that sounded a little off. :blush:

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3 hours ago, ALLinALLEN said:

When did I say that was me? Weird.

 

That's how I took it. You're talking about trading Josh.

 

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We're going to be the Lions and have to trade Allen to a superbowl contender so we can see him win arent we?

 

I joke but were halfway there in years....

 

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