Bobby Hooks Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Low Positive said: He meant Beane, not Miller. Ahhh… that makes way more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*? He was under contract, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, mannc said: It's been reported that there is a clause in Miller's contract that allows the Bills to void the remainder of his contract if he violates the league's personal conduct policy, but I'm not sure what sort of dead cap hit that would entail. I would hope there would be no dead cap hit given the circumstances. The Bills aren't the Dolphins or Chiefs, teams OK with keeping domestic violence abusers on their roster, he's got to be gone as soon as possible no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 You know what? I just realized that we're winning the Super Bowl this year. Because there is no way the universe can be this cruel. A more positive outcome is guaranteed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I am dead serious when I say today was jersey day at my 9 year old son’s school, he wore his Miller jersey. So just how ugly were those Soccer Moms when you picked him up from school today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, boyst said: Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*? He was under contract, right? If he was, and NE had to take dead cap hits, you’d think teams would protect themselves from that in the future, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 This is now on ABC world news tonight!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 https://www.espn.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4744681/revisiting-details-of-hernandez-contract Quote For those asking what the salary cap charge would be in the event the Patriots ever decided to terminate the contract, the charge would be the acceleration of the $12.5 million signing bonus. If that happened in 2013, Hernandez would count $2.55 million against the salary cap, and then in 2014 would carry a cap charge of $7.5 million from the remaining proration on the signing bonus. One other factor to consider: A club can recover bonus money and avoid a cap hit if a player violates one of the league's personal conduct policies or defaults on contract language. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, SCBills said: What a jarring headline to read. Wow. I don't think this is what Von meant when he said "burn it all down".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: So just how ugly were those Soccer Moms when you picked him up from school today? My wife picked him up and she just found out about the news. She yells at our son, “I told you to wear the Allen jersey!” Edited December 1, 2023 by Buddy Hix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: This is now on ABC world news tonight!! Araiza Tops Shooting/Bills Response Hamlin Von Miller Teams go decades never making national news. 4x in two years. Edited December 1, 2023 by SCBills 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Special K said: I would hope there would be no dead cap hit given the circumstances. The Bills aren't the Dolphins or Chiefs, teams OK with keeping domestic violence abusers on their roster, he's got to be gone as soon as possible no matter what. Someone upthread indicated that the Bills would still be stuck with the dead cap hit, just as the Raiders were in the Ruggs situation. I'm sure the team is thoroughly investigating all the ins and outs here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I read somewhere today that the woman he assaulted was his SEVEN YEAR companion. If the latter is true, then that is really, really sad. Yes, I know it's sad/bad that (if true), he did this to any woman, but IMHO, there would be a difference if it was some escort or ONS vs a woman he obviously loves/loved, and has a LTR with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Von’s public persona is so nice and upbeat. You just never know what a person is like behind closed doors. Or slammed doors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, mannc said: Someone upthread indicated that the Bills would still be stuck with the dead cap hit, just as the Raiders were in the Ruggs situation. I'm sure the team is thoroughly investigating all the ins and outs here. This seems crazy. What if a QB did this? What if multiple players on a team all violate personal conduct together. Team just has to fold up shop for years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Success said: You know what? I just realized that we're winning the Super Bowl this year. Because there is no way the universe can be this cruel. A more positive outcome is guaranteed. If that's how it works this should our second right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, boyst said: Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*? He was under contract, right? He was convicted and the Pats still had to pay him. I believe that's why they have the clause in most contracts related to suspensions/arrests/convictions in pretty much every contract now. Edited December 1, 2023 by The Wiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, boyst said: Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*? He was under contract, right? IIRC they cut him before he went to the stoney lonesome, so I think they had to eat the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Exactly. You can tell the people (not everyone) that are just jumping for joy over this because they think it's an easy out on this contract. Same people would be hating it if Von was playing at his elite level. I'm disgusted either way if this is true. Some guys are turning this situation into "fire everyone" "clean house" "the organization is a mess." "what can we save on his contract" "easy out." etc.. This is just disgusting in itself. First day on the internet? You’ll love it!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, mannc said: Someone upthread indicated that the Bills would still be stuck with the dead cap hit, just as the Raiders were in the Ruggs situation. I'm sure the team is thoroughly investigating all the ins and outs here. That would really suck if that is the case.....would really put the Bills in a no win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On a side note, I'd be curious as to what the Bills' Mafia "Babes" take on this situation is. They tarred and feathered Ariaza, and wanted him put away for years/decades without a trial or due process, just based solely on what some blacked-out drunken drugged college student said because she remembers seeing him at the party (probably the only person she could recognize). Some of these self-proclaimed "babes" wanted Ariaza put away just to make an example of him even when her testimony fell apart in shambles. Who says stuff like that? Are these "babes" rioting and pitchforking the streets over a guy who's accused of assaulting and putting bruises on the belly of his pregnant gf or whomever she is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Special K said: That would really suck if that is the case.....would really put the Bills in a no win situation. at this point it's more of a "lose by 1 or lose by 30" situation. They are going to have to get rid of him if they really believe the "culture" they are telling everyone day after day. Now it's a matter of if they are cutting him and eating a ton of money or cutting him and eating some of that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Special K said: I would hope there would be no dead cap hit given the circumstances. The Bills aren't the Dolphins or Chiefs, teams OK with keeping domestic violence abusers on their roster, he's got to be gone as soon as possible no matter what. so no trial or due process? just kicked to the curb because he stands accused? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: On a side note, I'd be curious as to what the Bills' Mafia "Babes" take on this situation is. They tarred and feathered Ariaza, and wanted him put away for years/decades without a trial or due process, just based solely on what some blacked-out drunken drugged college student said because she remembers seeing him at the party (probably the only person she could recognize). Some of these self-proclaimed "babes" wanted Ariaza put away just to make an example of him even when her testimony fell apart in shambles. Who says stuff like that? Are these "babes" rioting and pitchforking the streets over a guy who's accused of assaulting and putting bruises on the belly of his pregnant gf or whomever she is. You can see for yourself. Haven't seen a lot from their official other than this but can only imagine how many tags they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chaos said: so no trial or due process? just kicked to the curb because he stands accused? If arrest warrants are handed out, its more than just accusations, don't you think?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just got a text from my buddy… ”Von was finally able to beat someone…” Rough. Not a good situation at all. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Special K said: That would really suck if that is the case.....would really put the Bills in a no win situation. Pretty certain that would elevate this to "worst signing of all time" status. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, boyst said: Anyone remember the situation for Hernandez in New England*? He was under contract, right? Hernandez murdered someone. I don't know if this is treated the same. Domestic violence is bad but what Hernandez did is worse Edited December 1, 2023 by Buffalo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chaos said: so no trial or due process? just kicked to the curb because he stands accused? Araiza was never criminally charged at all, IIRC… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSoldier17 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Trust the process, complementary felonies, family! What more can be said that hasn’t already been said in here: get rid of this POS as soon as possible and able. Just pure human scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Had he attempted to flee, they’d need a practice squad tackle to stop him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RousseauRage Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Special K said: If arrest warrants are handed out, its more than just accusations, don't you think?? I don't think you understand what you are taking about. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: On a side note, I'd be curious as to what the Bills' Mafia "Babes" take on this situation is. They tarred and feathered Ariaza, and wanted him put away for years/decades without a trial or due process, just based solely on what some blacked-out drunken drugged college student said because she remembers seeing him at the party (probably the only person she could recognize). Some of these self-proclaimed "babes" wanted Ariaza put away just to make an example of him even when her testimony fell apart in shambles. Who says stuff like that? Are these "babes" rioting and pitchforking the streets over a guy who's accused of assaulting and putting bruises on the belly of his pregnant gf or whomever she is. They also wanted Watsons nuts in a vice without really hearing anything on that also even after the case got thrown out of 2 grand juries. I do think the Miller thing is legit simply because of the arrest warrant. But that's my response to the Mafia babes Edited December 1, 2023 by Buffalo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, RousseauRage said: I don't think you understand what you are taking about. Thanks for your input.....here's where I will file it: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 She should have put on a QB jersey, he wouldn’t have touched her! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, WotAGuy said: The poster did make it sound that way but the ABC News piece was simply a restating of the police report that has been released. Von’s girlfriend did not appear on the broadcast. Thanks. I thought that sounded a little off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, ALLinALLEN said: When did I say that was me? Weird. That's how I took it. You're talking about trading Josh. Quote We're going to be the Lions and have to trade Allen to a superbowl contender so we can see him win arent we? I joke but were halfway there in years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RousseauRage Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Special K said: Thanks for your input.....here's where I will file it: Arrest warrants don't do anything to advance allegations past allegations. Edited December 1, 2023 by RousseauRage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 This was almost a third of what the NFL fined Allen for his finger point of doom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Man, this team did not need this right now. Sigh 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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