AFC Standings, schedules, & Rooting Interests FINAL 1/7/24 BILLS 2 Seed!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

46 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

It's definitely going to take a large element of luck, not to mention, how are we going to play.  

 

Problem with the wild card is that we have almost no tiebreakers.  There's virtually no chance that we win the division.  

 

It's also uncomfortable knowing that other than for Miami, the teams that we've beaten are a combined 22-39 (.361).

 

What remains are two division leaders, the best non-division leader, and @ the Chargers where we haven't won since the Knox days. 

 

That doesn't sound encouraging or validating.  

 

 

If we’re bringing historic win percentages into it there’s little to no chance we lose to Miami to be fair 😂. I wouldn’t read into the historic results vs the chargers in SD too much for that reason 

[Eastport bills]

Sean should be fired for poor coaching that led to the team losing to NE, Denver, Jets, Philly and the game against the Giants which should have been a loss. A HC must have success on his side of the ball. His conservative approach to offense, leaving the final outcome in the hands of an injury riddled defense, has failed miserably with pedestrian offenses scoring on last possessions(NE, Denver, Philly, Giants). Pegula got his stadium and he’s giving the fan base the finger by saying there’s zero chance of Sean’s dismissal. 

[Einstein]

Can't help but think the Steelers are out of the playoff picture. No QB, have lost to 2-win teams in back-to-back weeks, and have Indi, Cinci, Seattle and Baltimore left. I'd be surprised if they didn't lose at least 2 of those.

The Bengals are likely done as well. They have Indi, Minnesota, Pitt, KC and Cleveland left. 

If I am correct in my assumption about Pittsburgh and Cinci, that leaves Cleveland, Indi, Houston, Denver and Buffalo flighting for 3 spots.

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

 

It's definitely going to take a large element of luck, not to mention, how are we going to play.  

 

Problem with the wild card is that we have almost no tiebreakers.  There's virtually no chance that we win the division.  

 

It's also uncomfortable knowing that other than for Miami, the teams that we've beaten are a combined 22-39 (.361).

 

What remains are two division leaders, the best non-division leader, and @ the Chargers where we haven't won since the Knox days. 

 

That doesn't sound encouraging or validating.  

 

 

I know what I'm typing is crazy but here we go anyway. The Fins play Dallas and Baltimore. IF the Bills find a way to win the next 4 winning out would lead to a division title. That 5th game vs the Fins would lead to a tie with the Bills having the this breaker.

[zow2]

Keep in mind there's big impact weather hitting the Great Lakes and East coast for Sunday/Sunday night into Monday.   The worst may be east of Cincinnati and moving out of Cleveland by 1pm but they will still get some snow showers and wind.  Baltimore supposed to get flooding rains all day Sunday and the Jets game will see the rain moving in.

[PBF81]

40 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

If we’re bringing historic win percentages into it there’s little to no chance we lose to Miami to be fair 😂. I wouldn’t read into the historic results vs the chargers in SD too much for that reason 

 

The difference being that it's a cross-country trip, that seems to feed into it.  

 

The Chargers are the only team in the AFC that actually plays on the West Coast in the Pacific Time Zone.  We didn't manage the trip to England very well.  LOL 

 

On McD's watch, out on the west coast, we're 0-1 (Arizona), 0-1 (Chargers), 1-0 (Rams), and 1-0 (Niners), 2-2 total if we want to include AZ, but both the Rams and Niners were awful in the seasons that we beat them.  The Chargers were OK, 9-7, but didn't make the playoffs that season, and they annihilated us.  The Chargers this season aren't good but they're better than either of those two teams were, at least offensively, and Herbert is better than Rivers.  

 

The fact that other than Miami, the other five teams that we've beaten are a combined 22-39 isn't exactly a harbinger of good tidings.  LOL  

 

First things first.  I wish that the Chiefs had won last week.  The fact that they lost makes this game more difficult for us to win.  They won't be looking past us because we're the last and only particular concern of theirs on their schedule.  

 

McD's not in his element either.  He's obviously a very private person, but for this game anyway, he will personally be in the national spotlight, fair or not.  As well, according to Dunne's sources in his piece, McD gets anxious before the KC games and that anxiousness is palpable amongst the rest of the team.  The whole spotlight thing isn't going to help that.  

 

Factor in that it's been 49 games, aka nearly 3 seasons, that KC's lost b2b games.  They have also been stingy at home.  21, 17, 14, 14, 10, and 8, an average of 14 PPG.  Brady's got his work cut out for him.  

 

Expecting a good defensive matchup here, largely because KC's WRs suck.  That rookie Rice looks good though, his metrics are excellent.  Dude's good sized too.  It shouldn't be a reach that he and Kelce can post a good game against us with Pacheco in the mix.  

 

At least it doesn't seem as if they're suited to blowing us out, so if it is a blowout, we should be the ones doing the routing.  

 

Then again, Reid v. McD ...   

 

 

[PBF81]

34 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I know what I'm typing is crazy but here we go anyway. The Fins play Dallas and Baltimore. IF the Bills find a way to win the next 4 winning out would lead to a division title. That 5th game vs the Fins would lead to a tie with the Bills having the this breaker.

 

The Fins play the Titans, Jets, Cowboys, and us at home.  Baltimore on the road with the Ravens coming off of a west coast MNF game @ San Fran where they'll get beat up badly.  

 

We play @ KC, @ Chargers, @ Miami, Dallas, and NE.  

 

IF we go 4-1 and the Fins go 2-3, they win the division.  If one of their wins is against us, in a game in which both teams will be completely different, and in different circumstances entirely, than in the first game in week 4, then 4-0 by us otherwise and wins over the Titans and Jets @ Miami will do it too.  

 

Even if we win out, which is all but laughable given that we have yet to beat a decent team besides Miami, who also hasn't beaten anyone, if the Fins go 3-2 they win the division.  

 

So yeah, it is crazy.  LOL  But hey, we're crazy fans.   

 

 

[Big Turk]

43 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

The difference being that it's a cross-country trip, that seems to feed into it.  

 

The Chargers are the only team in the AFC that actually plays on the West Coast in the Pacific Time Zone.  We didn't manage the trip to England very well.  LOL 

 

On McD's watch, out on the west coast, we're 0-1 (Arizona), 0-1 (Chargers), 1-0 (Rams), and 1-0 (Niners), 2-2 total if we want to include AZ, but both the Rams and Niners were awful in the seasons that we beat them.  The Chargers were OK, 9-7, but didn't make the playoffs that season, and they annihilated us.  The Chargers this season aren't good but they're better than either of those two teams were, at least offensively, and Herbert is better than Rivers.  

 

The fact that other than Miami, the other five teams that we've beaten are a combined 22-39 isn't exactly a harbinger of good tidings.  LOL  

 

First things first.  I wish that the Chiefs had won last week.  The fact that they lost makes this game more difficult for us to win.  They won't be looking past us because we're the last and only particular concern of theirs on their schedule.  

 

McD's not in his element either.  He's obviously a very private person, but for this game anyway, he will personally be in the national spotlight, fair or not.  As well, according to Dunne's sources in his piece, McD gets anxious before the KC games and that anxiousness is palpable amongst the rest of the team.  The whole spotlight thing isn't going to help that.  

 

Factor in that it's been 49 games, aka nearly 3 seasons, that KC's lost b2b games.  They have also been stingy at home.  21, 17, 14, 14, 10, and 8, an average of 14 PPG.  Brady's got his work cut out for him.  

 

Expecting a good defensive matchup here, largely because KC's WRs suck.  That rookie Rice looks good though, his metrics are excellent.  Dude's good sized too.  It shouldn't be a reach that he and Kelce can post a good game against us with Pacheco in the mix.  

 

At least it doesn't seem as if they're suited to blowing us out, so if it is a blowout, we should be the ones doing the routing.  

 

Then again, Reid v. McD ...   

 

 

 

None of this matters at all to what the next 5 games will be.  Allen is back to playing at his best, there is nobody we can't beat and you would have to be a fool to think we don't have a chance to run the table if he plays like that every game.

[PBF81]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

None of this matters at all to what the next 5 games will be.  Allen is back to playing at his best, there is nobody we can't beat and you would have to be a fool to think we don't have a chance to run the table if he plays like that every game.

 

We'll see, hopefully that's the case.  

 

My personal take is that I'd rather make the playoffs as the 7th seed and win the Super Bowl than have the 1st seed and choke in the divisional round.  I know that that speaks for just about all Bills fans if not every one.  

 

Having said that, few if any of us ever imagined that we'd be at the 11th spot currently reliant upon, in essence, winning out, or at least finishing 4-1 for that 7th seed.  

 

No matter how we slice it, McDoesn'tKnow is an element that needs to be overcome in these games for us to do whatever it is that we're going to do.  

 

Whether that happens, Sunday will be the first final piece of that puzzle.  

 

Hopefully this is that "unlikely" season where we overcome all the odds, including that of the 7th seed and worst team (record wise) in the playoffs, to win a Lombardi.  If we're in it even, I'm going up to Buffalo, even if I have to go alone.  LOL  

 

GO BILLS!!! 

 

 

[BuffaloBillies]

(try this again)

 

My poor-man's analysis...

 

Bills need to be in top-3 of this mess.

 

Green = Likely Favorite (>3 points)

Red = Likely Underdog (<3 points)

White = Near "push"/even (-3 to +3)

 

 

Houston has the easiest road. I'm ready to forget about them and assume they are in.

I think it comes down to overtaking Cleveland and/or Ind, and hopefully Cin and Den fade away too. Pitt is toast.

Cin over Ind this weekend helps, but then Cin needs to blow it a couple of times.

Bills MUST win their 4 AFC games (mostly for AFC record if tie-breaker), and beating Dallas at home would be icing.

 

This is what we're forced to endure after losing to JETS, NE, and DEN. Ridiculous.

 

[finn]

50 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

Even if we win out, which is all but laughable given that we have yet to beat a decent team besides Miami, who also hasn't beaten anyone, if the Fins go 3-2 they win the division.  

I think they can do it, but it's mostly because they've been so incredibly good in recent years. This year has been different, but I still have hope all the losses were due to a combination of Dorsey being too transparent, the defensive injuries (early), and McDermott panicking when the game is tight.

 

Soooo, it's just possible that Brady amps the offense enough to win all of these games comfortably, so they don't end up in McMeltdown's hands at the end. Or, if they do end up with McDermott calling his patented prevent defense, they get lucky, like in the Giants game. 

 

You know, if McDermott practiced what he preaches, he would realize he is an excellent DC except in tight situations, and that in those situations he should hand over game management to someone with a more level head. What are the chances of that?

 

Panics in tense situations AND a control freak.... What a deadly combination. ☹️

[PBF81]

29 minutes ago, finn said:

You know, if McDermott practiced what he preaches, he would realize he is an excellent DC except in tight situations, and that in those situations he should hand over game management to someone with a more level head. What are the chances of that?

 

Well, per your control-freak comment, which we now fully know has a lot of validity to it, the odds as you imply are probably zero.  LOL  

 

As you say however, if Brady has the stones to simply let the D cut loose like Daboll did, then as is the schtick re: McMeltdown, we may overcome our biggest impediment, our illustrious head coach.  

 

It would be pretty exciting though to make the playoffs as the 7th-Seed, then go on to win the Super Bowl.  I almost think I'd rather have it that way in fact.  

 

GO BILLS!!!  

 

 

[finn]

28 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Well, per your control-freak comment, which we now fully know has a lot of validity to it, the odds as you imply are probably zero.  LOL  

 

As you say however, if Brady has the stones to simply let the D cut loose like Daboll did, then as is the schtick re: McMeltdown, we may overcome our biggest impediment, our illustrious head coach.  

 

It would be pretty exciting though to make the playoffs as the 7th-Seed, then go on to win the Super Bowl.  I almost think I'd rather have it that way in fact.  

 

GO BILLS!!!  

 

 

Works for me. 

 

Ironic how we all got our wish and Frazier is gone, only to be replaced by a guy who may end be the most choke head coach in NFL. So now we have a choke head coach AND a choke DC. 

 

The result: if the game is close, the Bills will lose pretty much every time. Not exactly the formula for a championship. 

 

Brady and Allen: Our hopes and dreams rest with thee!

[Buffalo Streaker]

2 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

I know what I'm typing is crazy but here we go anyway. The Fins play Dallas and Baltimore. IF the Bills find a way to win the next 4 winning out would lead to a division title. That 5th game vs the Fins would lead to a tie with the Bills having the this breaker.

This has to be how it plays out.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

The difference being that it's a cross-country trip, that seems to feed into it.  

 

The Chargers are the only team in the AFC that actually plays on the West Coast in the Pacific Time Zone.  We didn't manage the trip to England very well.  LOL 

 

On McD's watch, out on the west coast, we're 0-1 (Arizona), 0-1 (Chargers), 1-0 (Rams), and 1-0 (Niners), 2-2 total if we want to include AZ, but both the Rams and Niners were awful in the seasons that we beat them.  The Chargers were OK, 9-7, but didn't make the playoffs that season, and they annihilated us.  The Chargers this season aren't good but they're better than either of those two teams were, at least offensively, and Herbert is better than Rivers.  

 

The fact that other than Miami, the other five teams that we've beaten are a combined 22-39 isn't exactly a harbinger of good tidings.  LOL  

 

First things first.  I wish that the Chiefs had won last week.  The fact that they lost makes this game more difficult for us to win.  They won't be looking past us because we're the last and only particular concern of theirs on their schedule.  

 

McD's not in his element either.  He's obviously a very private person, but for this game anyway, he will personally be in the national spotlight, fair or not.  As well, according to Dunne's sources in his piece, McD gets anxious before the KC games and that anxiousness is palpable amongst the rest of the team.  The whole spotlight thing isn't going to help that.  

 

Factor in that it's been 49 games, aka nearly 3 seasons, that KC's lost b2b games.  They have also been stingy at home.  21, 17, 14, 14, 10, and 8, an average of 14 PPG.  Brady's got his work cut out for him.  

 

Expecting a good defensive matchup here, largely because KC's WRs suck.  That rookie Rice looks good though, his metrics are excellent.  Dude's good sized too.  It shouldn't be a reach that he and Kelce can post a good game against us with Pacheco in the mix.  

 

At least it doesn't seem as if they're suited to blowing us out, so if it is a blowout, we should be the ones doing the routing.  

 

Then again, Reid v. McD ...   

 

 

We won in SF a few years ago, no?

 

[PBF81]

4 minutes ago, finn said:

Works for me. 

 

Ironic how we all got our wish and Frazier is gone, only to be replaced by a guy who may end be the most choke head coach in NFL. So now we have a choke head coach AND a choke DC. 

 

The result: if the game is close, the Bills will lose pretty much every time. Not exactly the formula for a championship. 

 

Brady and Allen: Our hopes and dreams rest with thee!

 

 

Sounds as if those that understand McD realize that you have to ignore him in order to be at your best sometimes.  

 

As Dunne points out in his piece as well as logic dictates, Brady is also interviewing for a job simultaneously, he likely doesn't want to piss a temperamental McD off.  

 

Should be interesting.  

 

 

1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

We won in SF a few years ago, no?

 

 

Yeah, that's the 1-0 Niners.  We beat a team that finished 6-10 and we played them with Nick Mullens at QB.  

 

 

[Bleedingreennc]

I’m rooting for the Pats the rest of the season, don’t need them in a position to get a good qb this draft

[finn]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

As Dunne points out in his piece as well as logic dictates, Brady is also interviewing for a job simultaneously, he likely doesn't want to piss a temperamental McD off.  

Brady could be interviewing for McDermott's job if things break a certain way. That is, if the offense explodes but the Bills keep losing because of McDermott's mismanagement.

[boyst]

7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

currently 60-70% if they win 4 out of 5.

1 miami loss after the steelers loss last night changes a lot.

[PBF81]

10 minutes ago, finn said:

Brady could be interviewing for McDermott's job if things break a certain way. That is, if the offense explodes but the Bills keep losing because of McDermott's mismanagement.

 

Yeah, maybe.  Isn't Brady a pretty huge risk as a HC however?   His background and incredibly limited accomplishments to date, of what's there, don't exactly scream out best choice.  

 

A guy like Ben Johnson as some are heavily advocating for would seem to be a much better option.  

 

 

[ngbills]

5 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think a 9 win team will get one of the wildcards or the bills at 10 wins.  Lookin at the teams in the hunt I don’t really see anyone pulling away except for maybe the Texans but if the Texans pull away they likely beat Cleveland and Indy which would kind of be good for us? 

 

I doubt it’s gonna take winning out from us 

Dont see it. That would mean:

 

HOU has TEN twice and and NYJ, CLE, IND. I think they get to 10 easy. Losses to IND and CLE help them get to 10.

IND has CIN, PIT, ATL. LVR, HOU. They need three and losses to HOU, CIN, PIT help those teams get to 10. 

CLE has JAC (No T Lawrence), CHI, HOU, NYJ, CIN. Again they lose to CIN, HOU, JAC help those teams get to 10. 

PIT has IND, CIN, SEA, BAL. They lose to IND, CIN they are helping those teams and win they are closer themselves. 

CIN has IND, MIN, PIT, KC, CLE - same as PIT. They beat IND, PIT and CLE and they may get to 10 wins, lose and each of those teams adds another win.

JAC most losable games is CLE without T Lawrence. They will get 2 wins vs TB, CAR, TEN, BAL.

DEN and LAC are least likely to get to 10. But they play each other twice so one of them is at 7. If DEN sweeps they need 2 more vs LVR, DET, NE...its possible. If LAC sweeps they need 3 vs LVR, BUF, KC...unlikely. 

 

Just too many teams at 7 wins already. For 3 to not get to 10 it would take a lot of splitting games and losing to some bad teams while beating good ones. Most likely JAC and HOU get to 10. If CLE wins this week they likely get to 10. Then between IND, PIT, CIN, DEN I think more than one of them gets there too. So BUF needs to get to 11. 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by ngbills

[JustHewIt]

50 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Dont see it. That would mean:

 

HOU has TEN twice and and NYJ, CLE, IND. I think they get to 10 easy. Losses to IND and CLE help them get to 10.

IND has CIN, PIT, ATL. LVR, HOU. They need three and losses to HOU, CIN, PIT help those teams get to 10. 

CLE has JAC (No T Lawrence), CHI, HOU, NYJ, CIN. Again they lose to CIN, HOU, JAC help those teams get to 10. 

PIT has IND, CIN, SEA, BAL. They lose to IND, CIN they are helping those teams and win they are closer themselves. 

CIN has IND, MIN, PIT, KC, CLE - same as PIT. They beat IND, PIT and CLE and they may get to 10 wins, lose and each of those teams adds another win.

JAC most losable games is CLE without T Lawrence. They will get 2 wins vs TB, CAR, TEN, BAL.

DEN and LAC are least likely to get to 10. But they play each other twice so one of them is at 7. If DEN sweeps they need 2 more vs LVR, DET, NE...its possible. If LAC sweeps they need 3 vs LVR, BUF, KC...unlikely. 

 

Just too many teams at 7 wins already. For 3 to not get to 10 it would take a lot of splitting games and losing to some bad teams while beating good ones. Most likely JAC and HOU get to 10. If CLE wins this week they likely get to 10. Then between IND, PIT, CIN, DEN I think more than one of them gets there too. So BUF needs to get to 11. 

 

 

Everyone is writing off tiebreakers, but we have five conference losses while most others have 3 or 4. If we go 4-0 in conference and they drop a couple AFC games, it's not unreasonable to think that we can still get a tiebreaker over the teams we haven't lost to directly 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

Dont see it. That would mean:

 

HOU has TEN twice and and NYJ, CLE, IND. I think they get to 10 easy. Losses to IND and CLE help them get to 10.

IND has CIN, PIT, ATL. LVR, HOU. They need three and losses to HOU, CIN, PIT help those teams get to 10. 

CLE has JAC (No T Lawrence), CHI, HOU, NYJ, CIN. Again they lose to CIN, HOU, JAC help those teams get to 10. 

PIT has IND, CIN, SEA, BAL. They lose to IND, CIN they are helping those teams and win they are closer themselves. 

CIN has IND, MIN, PIT, KC, CLE - same as PIT. They beat IND, PIT and CLE and they may get to 10 wins, lose and each of those teams adds another win.

JAC most losable games is CLE without T Lawrence. They will get 2 wins vs TB, CAR, TEN, BAL.

DEN and LAC are least likely to get to 10. But they play each other twice so one of them is at 7. If DEN sweeps they need 2 more vs LVR, DET, NE...its possible. If LAC sweeps they need 3 vs LVR, BUF, KC...unlikely. 

 

Just too many teams at 7 wins already. For 3 to not get to 10 it would take a lot of splitting games and losing to some bad teams while beating good ones. Most likely JAC and HOU get to 10. If CLE wins this week they likely get to 10. Then between IND, PIT, CIN, DEN I think more than one of them gets there too. So BUF needs to get to 11. 

 

I think your description is missing a couple important factors that completely alter the outlook…the first being that you’re treating jax and Indy and Houston all as wildcard competition when one has to win the division.  
 

second being how likely is it Denver sweeps the chargers and in the hypothetical where we win 10 what are the chances the one loss is to the chargers?  I’d say very low for both which makes neither of those teams a very serious threat 

 

so it might look scary but really it’s 6 teams vying for 4 playoff spots(one will win afc south) and one of them is the jake browning led bengals with the same record as us. 
 

its actually kind of a strength a lot of these teams have games against eachother left not a weakness for us…theres no chance of 4 teams all pulling a game ahead any given week.  Its likely two of the teams you mentioned will beat up on some of the other wildcard competitors paving the way to the 7 seed

 

If Indy jax Cleveland pit all had starting qbs I think it would be a bit more of a tossup but as it stands 10 wins has a very good chance of being enough  

 

 

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[SoonerBillsFan]

On 11/29/2023 at 12:42 PM, Beast said:

I see no way the Bills get in unless they run the table and that isn’t going to happen.

 

All other teams have pretty cake schedules.

Yeah I don't see us running the table at all.  

[Starr Almighty]

5 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

The Fins play the Titans, Jets, Cowboys, and us at home.  Baltimore on the road with the Ravens coming off of a west coast MNF game @ San Fran where they'll get beat up badly.  

 

We play @ KC, @ Chargers, @ Miami, Dallas, and NE.  

 

IF we go 4-1 and the Fins go 2-3, they win the division.  If one of their wins is against us, in a game in which both teams will be completely different, and in different circumstances entirely, than in the first game in week 4, then 4-0 by us otherwise and wins over the Titans and Jets @ Miami will do it too.  

 

Even if we win out, which is all but laughable given that we have yet to beat a decent team besides Miami, who also hasn't beaten anyone, if the Fins go 3-2 they win the division.  

 

So yeah, it is crazy.  LOL  But hey, we're crazy fans.   

 

 

I'm saying we need to go 4-0 and the Fins need to go 2-2 then we must beat them head to head. The reason I said it's crazy it because the Bills haven't played well on both sides of the ball during the same game much this year. Plus winning 5 in a row is no easy feat 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, finn said:

Brady could be interviewing for McDermott's job if things break a certain way. That is, if the offense explodes but the Bills keep losing because of McDermott's mismanagement.

It wouldn't be my first choice (Ben Johnson) but I could live with Brady as HC and keeping Beane.  I just can't look at McDermott's face anymore. 

[Success]

I think 10-7 makes it.  This season is crazy.  Who had Pitt losing to New England yesterday?

 

 

 

[90sBills]

7 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think a 9 win team will get one of the wildcards or the bills at 10 wins.  Lookin at the teams in the hunt I don’t really see anyone pulling away except for maybe the Texans but if the Texans pull away they likely beat Cleveland and Indy which would kind of be good for us? 

 

I doubt it’s gonna take winning out from us 

Agreed. I point was more about not able to catch Mia for the division. That ship has sailed imo. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Success said:

I think 10-7 makes it.  This season is crazy.  Who had Pitt losing to New England yesterday?

 

 

 

I thought it would be close and a lot of these games people are callin sure wins for these afc wildcard competitors with backup qbs are far from it.

 

 

1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

Agreed. I point was more about not able to catch Mia for the division. That ship has sailed imo. 

Its a long shot but it’s still possible…our tough schedule portions didn’t line up…their remaining 3 tough games in a row close out the year 

[Buffalo Dude]

Are we rooting for Indi or Cinci this Sunday?

[Unforgiven]

4 hours ago, ngbills said:

Dont see it. That would mean:

 

HOU has TEN twice and and NYJ, CLE, IND. I think they get to 10 easy. Losses to IND and CLE help them get to 10.

IND has CIN, PIT, ATL. LVR, HOU. They need three and losses to HOU, CIN, PIT help those teams get to 10. 

CLE has JAC (No T Lawrence), CHI, HOU, NYJ, CIN. Again they lose to CIN, HOU, JAC help those teams get to 10. 

PIT has IND, CIN, SEA, BAL. They lose to IND, CIN they are helping those teams and win they are closer themselves. 

CIN has IND, MIN, PIT, KC, CLE - same as PIT. They beat IND, PIT and CLE and they may get to 10 wins, lose and each of those teams adds another win.

JAC most losable games is CLE without T Lawrence. They will get 2 wins vs TB, CAR, TEN, BAL.

DEN and LAC are least likely to get to 10. But they play each other twice so one of them is at 7. If DEN sweeps they need 2 more vs LVR, DET, NE...its possible. If LAC sweeps they need 3 vs LVR, BUF, KC...unlikely. 

 

Just too many teams at 7 wins already. For 3 to not get to 10 it would take a lot of splitting games and losing to some bad teams while beating good ones. Most likely JAC and HOU get to 10. If CLE wins this week they likely get to 10. Then between IND, PIT, CIN, DEN I think more than one of them gets there too. So BUF needs to get to 11. 

 

the playoffs are going to be awful this year.

 

[JerseyBills]

1 week at a time. Keep winning and hope they keep losing 

[Donuts and Doritos]

45 minutes ago, Buffalo Dude said:

Are we rooting for Indi or Cinci this Sunday?

 

Indy. If Cincy loses and we win we move ahead of Cincy. A Cincy win drops Indy but doesn't move us up ahead of anyone at all.

[DapperCam]

5 hours ago, ngbills said:

Dont see it. That would mean:

 

HOU has TEN twice and and NYJ, CLE, IND. I think they get to 10 easy. Losses to IND and CLE help them get to 10.

IND has CIN, PIT, ATL. LVR, HOU. They need three and losses to HOU, CIN, PIT help those teams get to 10. 

CLE has JAC (No T Lawrence), CHI, HOU, NYJ, CIN. Again they lose to CIN, HOU, JAC help those teams get to 10. 

PIT has IND, CIN, SEA, BAL. They lose to IND, CIN they are helping those teams and win they are closer themselves. 

CIN has IND, MIN, PIT, KC, CLE - same as PIT. They beat IND, PIT and CLE and they may get to 10 wins, lose and each of those teams adds another win.

JAC most losable games is CLE without T Lawrence. They will get 2 wins vs TB, CAR, TEN, BAL.

DEN and LAC are least likely to get to 10. But they play each other twice so one of them is at 7. If DEN sweeps they need 2 more vs LVR, DET, NE...its possible. If LAC sweeps they need 3 vs LVR, BUF, KC...unlikely. 

 

Just too many teams at 7 wins already. For 3 to not get to 10 it would take a lot of splitting games and losing to some bad teams while beating good ones. Most likely JAC and HOU get to 10. If CLE wins this week they likely get to 10. Then between IND, PIT, CIN, DEN I think more than one of them gets there too. So BUF needs to get to 11. 

 

I pretty strongly disagree that any of CLE, PIT, CIN or DEN get to 10.

 

DEN and CIN would have to go 4-1.

PIT would have to go 3-1.

CLE would have to go 3-2.

 

CIN and PIT are done. I’m pretty sure DEN has 2 more losses looking at their schedule. CLE is on their 3rd string QB, and their best player is playing injured.

 

There are no remaining games that CIN, PIT or CLE should win. At best there are games that are a toss up for them.

 

To me, either the Bills get in at 10-7, or a different team gets the third spot at 9-8.

Edited December 9, 2023 by DapperCam

[EasternOHBillsFan]

34 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I pretty strongly disagree that any of CLE, PIT, CIN or DEN get to 10.

 

DEN and CIN would have to go 4-1.

PIT would have to go 3-1.

CLE would have to go 3-2.

 

CIN and PIT are done. I’m pretty sure DEN has 2 more losses looking at their schedule. CLE is on their 3rd string QB, and their best player is playing injured.

 

There are no remaining games that CIN, PIT or CLE should win. At best there are games that are a toss up for them.

 

To me, either the Bills get in at 10-7, or a different team gets the third spot at 9-8.

 

The problem is that we are going on the road, where we are 1-5 (if you count London). Losing at KC or at LA or at Miami and the Bills are done. I have put the scenarios through the Playoff Machine and it is frightful unless we win out.

Edited December 9, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Big Blitz]

East Coast weather looks like a disaster this weekend.  
 

Don’t be surprised if the Jets beat Houston and the Rams beat Baltimore.  
 

Stroud could be neutralized by the Jets D and rain.  And Zach Wilson could do things I guess.  

 

Even Vegas agrees - look at the U/O in those games.  

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

18 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

second being how likely is it Denver sweeps the chargers and in the hypothetical where we win 10 what are the chances the one loss is to the chargers?  I’d say very low for both which makes neither of those teams a very serious threat 

 

 

 

My gut instinct, in order of most likely losses left on the schedule:

 

@ LA Chargers

vs. Dallas

@ KC

@ Miami

vs. New England

 

Chargers just feels like a game we will lose. They play nearly every game close. It will be a battle of who doesn't blow it at the end. 

[dickleyjones]

18 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It wouldn't be my first choice (Ben Johnson) but I could live with Brady as HC and keeping Beane.  I just can't look at McDermott's face anymore. 

So you just gonna listen to the radio broadcasts for the next several years then?

Edited December 9, 2023 by dickleyjones

[Bferra13]

11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

East Coast weather looks like a disaster this weekend.  
 

Don’t be surprised if the Jets beat Houston and the Rams beat Baltimore.  
 

Stroud could be neutralized by the Jets D and rain.  And Zach Wilson could do things I guess.  

 

Even Vegas agrees - look at the U/O in those games.  

Just looked at Meadowlands forecast and it's a 30% chance of rain with 9 mph winds at 1pm. I wouldn't call that a disaster. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins&#x27; Rib said:

 

My gut instinct, in order of most likely losses left on the schedule:

 

@ LA Chargers

vs. Dallas

@ KC

@ Miami

vs. New England

 

Chargers just feels like a game we will lose. They play nearly every game close. It will be a battle of who doesn't blow it at the end. 

Assuming Miami is playing starters I have the chargers games as 4th most likely loss but it’s all speculation and opinion based of course 😁

 

I’m not saying we’ll definitely win or that it’s an easy game but part of my point is if we can’t win that game I doubt we’re beating all three of Dallas kc and Miami anyway so the 4-1 finish hypothetical is a moot point anyway