Bills now Vegas betting favorites to land Derrick Henry

[DCofNC]

I mean.. ok, but if you are going for that, talk to the Giants about renting Saquon for the year.

[Since1981]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Every time the ball is in Derrick Henry's hands instead of Mahomes or Allens is a win for the defense

Wrong. If your offense has both an elite QB and elite RB, it’s a win for the offense every play

McDorsey would put Henry in at Safety!

 

seriously. Henry would be a great add but I’ve lost all confidence in OC managing team

[I Am The Liquor]

I highly doubt this is even a possibility, but, to compare "scheming" plays for James Cook compared to Derrick Henry is just absolutely insane.  

[Big Blitz]

31 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

thanks for sharing! 

This. Defenses are not scared of James Cook. Henry though…..nightmare!

 

For the life of me I don’t understand why fans aren’t excited by imagining Josh and Henry in the same backfield.

 

whether Dorsey could come up with run pass options to really take advantage of defenses is another story

 

Exactly.  If it’s for a 4th or 5th round pick who cares - we’re better immediately on O.

 

Those struggles inside the 10?  Allen and Henry to deal with.   

[Drew21PA]

34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

thanks for sharing! 

This. Defenses are not scared of James Cook. Henry though…..nightmare!

 

For the life of me I don’t understand why fans aren’t excited by imagining Josh and Henry in the same backfield.

 

whether Dorsey could come up with run pass options to really take advantage of defenses is another story

Well because Josh doesn’t run anymore?

[Bills!Win!]

Screw Vegas. Nothing is true until Lord Von says it 

[VaMilBill]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Im not proposing anything here...just sharing info.  

 

Interesting day over here...A buddy called me earlier today who has also been a source of some info in the past (for example he was the one who leaked the Rams vs Bills season opener last year to me a month early) and he just he heard some chatter potentially linking Bills and Henry today.  

 

I just got home right now from being out and about for a little bit running errands and I got a text from a bookmaker buddy of mine about how Derrick Henry is now the betting favorites in Vegas to land Henry at 2/1 odds.  My immediate comment to him was to ask him if that is just because Beane freed up some cap space.  He said it's possible, but more likely Vegas at least heard or caught wind of something suggesting at least interest rather than just make that move over a small cap move.  

 

So take it with a grain of salt...but just found it interesting that in the same day Beane freed up cap space Vegas made the Bills the betting favorites to land him.  Did a quick google search to pull up the odds and found this link right away.  

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-odds-derrick-henry-tennessee-titans#:~:text=Buffalo is granted a 33.3,(%2B300%2C 25 percent).

 

 

That would suck. Now we can run him from the gun with the HB draw. Derrick is someone who needs a full head of steam. Our offense doesn’t really match well with his talents 

[PBF81]

55 minutes ago, vincec said:

It makes no sense. The Bills are a pass first team. Is he going to split carries with Cook?

 

Agreed, not a good look for the team.  

 

Looks reactionary.  

 

 

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

That would suck. Now we can run him from the gun with the HB draw. Derrick is someone who needs a full head of steam. Our offense doesn’t really match well with his talents 

Not true. I just posted a video above of his highlights torching the Bengals in week 4 and almost every run was from shotgun. 

[sven233]

Henry is a good player.  Is he a player we need that will turn this offense around?  No.  But, if for some reason we were to bring him in, he would have a spot and could help us.  We do see our share of lighter boxes because teams worry about defending the pass.  While Cook is a good back, he is not going to punish guys up the middle.  Not to mention, his pass protection has been atrocious.  Henry, just by being on the field as an option, discourages teams from taking that extra defender out of the box which could open some things up in the intermediate areas.  I just wish Henry was a better pass catcher, though.  But the cap hit would be minimal and we can never have enough good players.  Maybe try to get Henry and D-Hop in a package deal.

[iccrewman112]

1 hour ago, BrooklynBills said:

It's actually not a bad idea. You probably aren't seeing anymore 2 high coverages with Henry on the field. I don't hate it.

the Bills don’t run deep routes like they use to

[Punching Bag]

31 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Please God no. 

Dorsey can't even get Cook on the field at the right time now

 

Maybe Titans will trade Henry for Cook since Cook cannot get on the field. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I’m sorry but who tf is betting on this?

[frostbitmic]

How much do I get if I bet against it happening ?

 

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

It has to be Hopkins if anything... last thing we need is another RB.

 

we’ll take both. Please and thank you.

[Aussie Joe]

39 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I mean.. ok, but if you are going for that, talk to the Giants about renting Saquon for the year.

Daboll says he would rather trade him in the Division than to McD …

[Dablitzkrieg]

52 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

One bad week geesh

7 bad weeks

[Clyde Smith]

Imagine Josh Norman and Henry in practice.

[Dablitzkrieg]

11 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

I’m sorry but who tf is betting on this?

Degenerates 

Henry needs volume to get going.  This is a horrible idea.  Imagine this offense with more running.   McD just came I think

[Punching Bag]

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

Daboll says he would rather trade him in the Division than to McD …

 

Except Daboll is not the GM and whatever issues there are between Daboll and McD are not between Beane and Giants General Manager Joe Schoen.

[strive_for_five_guy]

3 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said:

Imagine Josh Norman and Henry in practice.

Josh contemplating retirement again…

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, Limeaid said:

 

Except Daboll is not the GM and whatever issues there are between Daboll and McD are not between Beane and Giants General Manager Joe Schoen.

He is a key player for them ..:Like they never discuss these trades with the Head Coach …

[Punching Bag]

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

He is a key player for them ..:Like they never discuss these trades with the Head Coach …

 

Joe Schoen is a professional.  He is not going to nix all trades to Buffalo due to Daboll's bad blood.

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, Limeaid said:

 

Joe Schoen is a professional.  He is not going to nix all trades to Buffalo due to Daboll's bad blood.

I didn’t say all trades now did I?

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said:

Here he is against the Bengals D in week 4

 

Would be lying If I said I didn't notice everyone of those came from shotgun

[strive_for_five_guy]

If Damien Harris is seriously thinking about retiring and/or needs to shut it down for the season, maybe this trade has legs???

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Does your buddy work in media or?

 

how’d he find out about the Rams game early

He works for an NFL team.  I do have multiple sources in sports media too though, including my wife  

[LEBills]

I wouldn’t hate it, seems like the Bills really want an effective play action game this year and Henry would help that.
 

But I think Hopkins and especially Jeffrey Simmons make more sense. I’m no capologist but I believe Henry is still owed about $6.8 million for the rest of the year. Compare that to Hopkins whose total base salary for the year was $1.2 million and Simmons base is only $1.3 million this year (his big money kicks in next year). Not sure when they say everyone is available that they mean Simmons too. But maybe the conversations we are having with the Titans are being speculated for Henry but actually involving one of those players at a greater area of need? Who knows

[Warriorspikes51]

15 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Would be lying If I said I didn't notice everyone of those came from shotgun

if we insist on running those plays….may as well be him getting it

15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

He works for an NFL team.  I do have multiple sources in sports media too though, including my wife  

awesome now you have my hopes up hahaha

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, LEBills said:

I wouldn’t hate it, seems like the Bills really want an effective play action game this year and Henry would help that.
 

But I think Hopkins and especially Jeffrey Simmons make more sense. I’m no capologist but I believe Henry is still owed about $6.8 million for the rest of the year. Compare that to Hopkins whose total base salary for the year was $1.2 million and Simmons base is only $1.3 million this year (his big money kicks in next year). Not sure when they say everyone is available that they mean Simmons too. But maybe the conversations we are having with the Titans are being speculated for Henry but actually involving one of those players at a greater area of need? Who knows

Jeffrey Simmons would instantaneously fix everything on this defense.   Just like how if Daquan Jones didn’t go down, we probably dominate the Pats Offense. Not just because of the talent at 1T but because of what it does for LB and Coverage.
 

No clue how we’re affording his contract in future years, but we do need a 1T for future years.  

 

 

[MasterStrategist]

7 minutes ago, LEBills said:

I wouldn’t hate it, seems like the Bills really want an effective play action game this year and Henry would help that.
 

But I think Hopkins and especially Jeffrey Simmons make more sense. I’m no capologist but I believe Henry is still owed about $6.8 million for the rest of the year. Compare that to Hopkins whose total base salary for the year was $1.2 million and Simmons base is only $1.3 million this year (his big money kicks in next year). Not sure when they say everyone is available that they mean Simmons too. But maybe the conversations we are having with the Titans are being speculated for Henry but actually involving one of those players at a greater area of need? Who knows

Let's go for it...make it an NHL type trade:  DHop, Simmons and Henry

 

Give us your best and we'll give you our worst, I mean: Gabe, Elam, and a 2nd

 

Kidding aside, I do think DHop makes a ton of sense at the lower cap hit.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, SCBills said:

Jeffrey Simmons would instantaneously fix everything on this defense.   Just like how if Daquan Jones didn’t go down, we probably dominate the Pats Offense. Not just because of the talent at 1T but because of what it does for LB and Coverage.
 

No clue how we’re affording his contract in future years, but we do need a 1T for future years.  

 

 

for the last time….

 

Simmons signed a 4 year 94 mil deal in the spring. Titans would take an insane dead cap hit if he was traded.  

[Nephilim17]

Would he put us over the top? No. But only a fool would say we wouldn't be a better team.

 

If the cap hit and compensation are low I wouldn't be opposed to it. But yes, a 1B receiver would be ideal — but is that feasible?

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said:

Would he put us over the top? No. But only a fool would say we wouldn't be a better team.

 

If the cap hit and compensation are low I wouldn't be opposed to it. But yes, a 1B receiver would be ideal — but is that feasible?

In theory, we could acquire both Henry & Hopkins if Titans eat around 3 million of Henry’s remaning $ for the year.
 

Hopkins is less than a 2 Million hit against the cap for rest of season

 

I haven’t looked at Hollywood Brown’s $ but his speed is something we could use at WR

[LEBills]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Jeffrey Simmons would instantaneously fix everything on this defense.   Just like how if Daquan Jones didn’t go down, we probably dominate the Pats Offense. Not just because of the talent at 1T but because of what it does for LB and Coverage.
 

No clue how we’re affording his contract in future years, but we do need a 1T for future years.  

 

 

Yea Simmons and a healthy Oliver would help our defense immensely.

 

We are going to see a huge overhaul of expensive contracts being released this upcoming offseason so Simmons contract wouldn’t be difficult to accommodate in future years imo.

[Warriorspikes51]

For the betting line to suddenly be +200 for us, Vegas must know we are at least exploring it.

 

+500 or +600 would be whatever, but +200 seems interesting  especially going with what the OP mentioned

[Nephilim17]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

In theory, we could acquire both Henry & Hopkins if Titans eat around 3 million of Henry’s remaning $ for the year.
 

Hopkins is less than a 2 Million hit against the cap for rest of season

 

I haven’t looked at Hollywood Brown’s $ but his speed is something we could use at WR

That's pretty damn interesting, Henry and Hopkins...

So what would you give up for that? I'd say, given that Henry appears to be an FA next year and Hopkins seems to have a 2024 year (but the Titans have to eat a lot of dead cap) and I could be WAY off base, but I'd give up...

a 2nd, a 3rd, Davis (not sure if he holds value).

 

Or... A 2nd, and Cook. Just off the top of my head. Don't want to lose a 1st but those two guys would make us very dangerous.

In theory.

[Aussie Joe]

18 minutes ago, LEBills said:

I wouldn’t hate it, seems like the Bills really want an effective play action game this year and Henry would help that.
 

But I think Hopkins and especially Jeffrey Simmons make more sense. I’m no capologist but I believe Henry is still owed about $6.8 million for the rest of the year. Compare that to Hopkins whose total base salary for the year was $1.2 million and Simmons base is only $1.3 million this year (his big money kicks in next year). Not sure when they say everyone is available that they mean Simmons too. But maybe the conversations we are having with the Titans are being speculated for Henry but actually involving one of those players at a greater area of need? Who knows

I raised this earlier in the thread….It’s these important details that a lot of people here don’t seem to think about… just get him in here …

[Milanos Milano]

2 hours ago, astb41 said:

DEF has tons of injuries, mac jones torches DEF to win game, trade for RB.  This seems like a logical order of events.

It does if teams offenses can’t get on the field and control the TOP. Cook isn’t physical enough to make teams stop with 2 deep safeties. That immediately changes with Henry in the backfield. Since Knox is hurt and basically not doing much this season anyways, we likely move away from 2 TE sets. Which means we leave Kincaid in as a true route runner in 1 TE sets and have 2RBs in the backfield, Cook and Henry, and send Cook out into the flat or running routes. Teams won’t know if we are passing or running and can’t play 2 deep with Henry on the field. 

[SydneyBillsFan]

That's not how you spell 'DeAndre Hopkins'!