buffblue Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Nothing against Henry or the OP for posting what he heard, but I always find it funny when the Bills are linked to big name players that play a position that is not remotely close to one of their biggest needs. Then when you factor in salary/age/draft compensation it becomes even more hilarious. I mean, honestly, who has sat here and watched the Bills of late and said the one big move they need to make is for a running back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Every time the ball is in Derrick Henry's hands instead of Mahomes or Allens is a win for the defense As opposed to James Cook or Latavius Murray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, buffblue said: Nothing against Henry or the OP for posting what he heard, but I always find it funny when the Bills are linked to big name players that play a position that is not remotely close to one of their biggest needs. Then when you factor in salary/age/draft compensation it becomes even more hilarious. I mean, honestly, who has sat here and watched the Bills of late and said the one big move they need to make is for a running back? What the Bills need is an impact player. Henry is that. He is also possibly the only player we could acquire that instantly lessens the % of 2 high safety looks we face another aspect of this…the Bills desperately need more of a nasty physical edge on offense. Henry is capable at anytime of a single play that shifts the momentum of a game in a huge way. (See Josh Norman being ragdolled) Edited October 25, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: What the Bills need is an impact player. Henry is that. He is also possibly the only player we could acquire that instantly lessens the % of 2 high safety looks we face You don't acquire a player like Henry unless you intend to make him the focal point of your offense. Last I checked we have Josh Allen. Factor in the mileage/salary/loss of draft capital and it seems like a ludicrous idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, FireChans said: It would be hilarious. Try to be the 2019 titans with an older Henry and worse OL. Would demonstrate a complete fundamental misunderstanding with the problems with this offensive roster, which means it makes total sense lol It's like the equivalent of the old Daboll era QB Power call Just screams I don't know what to do here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 This would be amazing. I'm 100% on board. A ring for the king? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: If I'm reading this right, Hopkins has a dead cap figure of over $11 million in 2023 and over $7.8 million in 2024. Nothing to sneeze at. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/deandre-hopkins-12307/ But if the Titan's were game I'd pull the trigger for a 2nd and 3rd/4th... Not sure if that would be enough for them... Doh! I responded to this thread without checking the cap implications for the Titans. I only checked ours. Originally I mentioned a 2024 3rd and Davis, with maybe a 2025 4th for both. Henry is in the last year of his contract. But that dead cap number isn’t awesome for TN. I could maybe move both those picks up a round each based on either a Henry extension (I likely wouldn’t extend) and/or team performance like making the AFCCG. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mango said: This feels out of the blue to me. But I’ll trust that there’s some legs to this if Vegas is giving us the best odds. A 2nd feels waaaay too high. This is the last year of his contract. I’m not sure I’d trade Davis straight up. Maybe a 5th that becomes a 4th with an extension? I love Henry, but he has some miles on him. With rumors of Hopkins getting moved I’d consider them both. Maybe Davis and a 3rd for Hopkins and Henry? Throw in a 4th in 2025 if they want more. I’m not sure how much I’d spend on this. Spotrac is awesome, but I wish they did a better job of sharing “trading x player has y result on the receiving teams cap”. I can figure it out, but on mobile it’s brutal….which I am on right now. Davis is an asset as he is on minimum pay the rest of the year and then you get a comp pick for him next year…( could be a third ) Now I know they are trying to save a season here… but Id rather keep him as third WR option the rest of the year… Im not saying not to bring in anyone .. I would prefer a deep threat type… Hopkins doesn’t get a lot of separation and he may take a bit of time to develop a trust with JA.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I'd talk myself into it - but outside of QB & WR1, RB is probably the least of our needs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, buffblue said: You don't acquire a player like Henry unless you intend to make him the focal point of your offense. Last I checked we have Josh Allen. Factor in the mileage/salary/loss of draft capital and it seems like a ludicrous idea you’re boxing the offense in with that train of thought. Why does that need to be the case? Because he hasn’t played with a top tier QB before? I like James Cook. He’s a decent player. He scares no one. Henry establishes Dominance and wrecks entire defenses. Again….you put him with a top QB. Mahomes, Lamar, Allen…. Nobody wants to face those combinations!! Edited October 25, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Tractorcito season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 This would be a good move to slow the offense down even more like the previous weeks by killing the clock out faster 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 We have Murray. Same back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: you’re boxing the offense in with that train of thought. Why does that need to be the case? Because he hasn’t played with a top tier QB before? I like James Cook. He’s a decent player. He scares no one. Henry establishes Dominance and wrecks entire defenses. Again….you put him with a top QB. Mahomes, Lamar, Allen…. Nobody wants to face those combinations!! So I guess our objective then will be to achieve more balance? Play more "complimentary football" as McDermott likes to say? We are already running the ball better than we have in years, especially considering they have brainwashed Allen not to scramble. And guess what? We are a less explosive and productive offense because of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Dr.Sack said: We have Murray. Same back. Latavius is good, but you can’t be serious 1 minute ago, buffblue said: So I guess our objective then will be to achieve more balance? Play more "complimentary football" as McDermott likes to say? We are already running the ball better than we have in years, especially considering they have brainwashed Allen not to scramble. And guess what? We are a less explosive and productive offense because of it our objective is to win a championship. Adding a truly elite player with a unique skill set increases your odds. Especially against top teams. You need to be able to win multiple ways down the stretch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Old Man Murray can do 85% of what henry would do here. Dhop would be a bigger target and great slot option vs adding another back. Run the no huddle with Diggs, Kincaid, Dhop and Murray in pass pro we could move the chains easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GoBills! said: Old Man Murray can do 85% of what henry would do here. Dhop would be a bigger target and great slot option vs adding another back. Run the no huddle with Diggs, Kincaid, Dhop and Murray in pass pro we could move the chains easily. Certainly would be happy with that approach as well! you can also run the no huddle with a punishing back…. Then kill teams with playaction when they cheat into the box I’m open to adding anyone / any approach that helps this team Edited October 25, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) To quote Shorsey, "For what??" Edited October 25, 2023 by That's No Moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, GoBills! said: Old Man Murray can do 85% of what henry would do here. Dhop would be a bigger target and great slot option vs adding another back. Run the no huddle with Diggs, Kincaid, Dhop and Murray in pass pro we could move the chains easily. Murray is no where near the caliber of player that Henry is, but I agree 100 percent that Hopkins would be the more impactful acquisition of the two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Dorsey would find a way to ruin it, but I'd be perfectly fine with the addition of Henry as long as he gets 20+ touches per game like he should. Yes, that's means a shift of philosophy on offense, which everyone should welcome since what the Bills are currently doing isn't working. Edited October 25, 2023 by Chicken Boo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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