AlfaBill Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: He was getting pressure on the last drive. He might be coming around. He has a little fight left in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Von had a little bit of juice today, the first time all season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Better from the right, he actually moved a bit better still not worth the $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kincaid Kool-Aid Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 He definitely looked better today. Just our luck he potentially starts rounding into form and might end up suspended or something… To be clear, not glossing over the horrible allegations surrounding him. If he’s guilty get him the eff off the team. Fingers crossed it’s not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolstoy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 My two cents: It takes at least a full year for most athletes to return from ACL reconstruction to preinjury level. He needs more time. Injury or no injury, Von Miller will have declined with age, but he has developed his craft over a career, and will still be effective. He studies his opponents' tendencies, deploys a wide range of pass rushing moves, and uses strategy to work his opposing offensive linemen. Assuming his mental game hasn't declined, he just needs his body to fully recover from injury. All of us should give players a bit more time before we anoint them and condemn them. We are too quick to judge. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 He showed a spark a few times, but having him on the feild once again for final drives with the game on the line is infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 55 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: He has a little fight left in him. Was today the first game he wasn’t wearing the brace on his leg? Wonder if that helped him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, AlfaBill said: He has a little fight left in him. On the field or when around his girlfriend? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: I had no clue Epenesa is Samoan. Ya learn something new every day… Epenesa, who is of Samoan ethnicity, was named to the preseason Polynesian College Player of the Year Watch List in 2018 and 2019. He was one of five finalists for the award in 2018. Good Article on Buffalo Bills website. He comes from culture which is ideal for football and he has bloodline, What A.J. Epenesa and Legend Lauvale Sape hope Bills fans can learn from AAPI Heritage Month https://www.buffalobills.com/news/what-a-j-epenesa-and-legend-lauvale-sape-hope-bills-fans-can-learn-from-aapi-her Bills defensive lineman A.J. Epenesa is a Samoan at heart. His father, Eppy, is from American Samoa and instilled the importance of togetherness in him from a young age. Bills Legend Lauvale Sape felt the same way when he played for Buffalo from 2003-2006. Sape is from American Samoa. He has done a lot to bring the game of football to his people, as well as share his culture to those who play the sport he loves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 We are likely stuck with him one more year with the cap hit. I imagine he will completely sell out to try and restore his image. We might actually get something out of him at the end of the year and possibly next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 He’s clearly at the end of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 The near strip sack was the best pass rush he has had all season. Good knee bend to get around the LT on a very good route to the QB. Hopefully the week off and this game will give him some confidence in the knee. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I don't think he's regained the burst for his bull rush move. The one where he fakes the outside shoulder, then once the OT is slightly off balance, he just powers into them. Took Tre White some games to get readjusted. Hopefully he gets it back soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Kinda weird cheering for him to be honest. Luckily, that doesn’t happen much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 This game was the first game where he did anything noticeable post ACL, hopefully its something to build off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 7 hours ago, Alpo Chino said: I don't think he's regained the burst for his bull rush move. The one where he fakes the outside shoulder, then once the OT is slightly off balance, he just powers into them. Took Tre White some games to get readjusted. Hopefully he gets it back soon. He flashed this game a few times tho...almost caused a strip sack fumble on that incomplete pass, caused Mahomes to step up and throw it away on another play in the first half when he was being double teamed by the back and RT and was close on a few other plays... Likely also the first game he played without that brace on which probably helped too... Expecting he will continue to improve each week moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said: He showed a spark a few times, but having him on the feild once again for final drives with the game on the line is infuriating. Epenesa went down, not as much to choose from. Von played his best game all season yesterday. He killed the Chiefs drive that ended with a field goal to tie the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Von seemed to show a bit more of his old self in last nights game . He has been on a pitch count & he use to talk how he would spend some of the game setting up his opponent through out the game to make moves on them later in the game . Almost needing to get into a rhythm . I think there are players that need that instead of being subbed out a lot like the Bills have done . I feel the same with some RB's, since Moss has went to the Colts he is playing more & i wonder if it is that he's not being subbed out as much & can get that feel for the game there may be something to that . Anymore given the subbing of players i have wondered if that could hinder them in their production because it use to be most players would say they need to get into the game to develop a feel for what they need to do . Hopefully Von can get back to his old self more so before they suspend him ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 His burst off the line was much improved yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Strethor said: This game was the first game where he did anything noticeable post ACL, hopefully its something to build off of. If, and a big if here… if he’s genuinely in the ramp up window we could see his play substantially improve even week to week. where his ceiling is moving forward is anyone’s guess but this was the first time we have seen an indication that he is not at it currently - which is progress. All we can do is hope from here. Would be massive to add another bonafide starter even if not an all pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 10 hours ago, LabattBlue said: On the field or when around his girlfriend? Inappropriate. I feel dirty because I laughed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 He looked good last night. I watched him closely - he was being doubled at times and he still moved his guys. He is definitely a lot stronger now so lets hope we see more from him. That would be perfect for the SB run! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Inappropriate. I feel dirty because I laughed. He is just another thug, and completely appropriate comment. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Dillenger4 said: He looked good last night. I watched him closely - he was being doubled at times and he still moved his guys. He is definitely a lot stronger now so lets hope we see more from him. That would be perfect for the SB run! Honestly, the best outcome IMO is that he ends up in legal trouble in Texas (more than he is in now) and we get out from his K and cap repercussions. He will NEVER live up to that K and cutting ties is best we can hope for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Von took the knee brace off right? Maybe he's now past the rehab portion of his season and will just go for it and push 100% from now on. That's what he owes himself and the team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 hours ago, KellyToTasker said: Epenesa went down, not as much to choose from. Von played his best game all season yesterday. He killed the Chiefs drive that ended with a field goal to tie the game. That was his best game, but he still played horrible football for the first 3.5 quarters. I guess you can say he "contributed" to the win with his 3 positive plays but it doesn't take away from the fact he was a net negative for 3.5 quarters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: That was his best game, but he still played horrible football for the first 3.5 quarters. I guess you can say he "contributed" to the win with his 3 positive plays but it doesn't take away from the fact he was a net negative for 3.5 quarters. Low key think AJE getting hurt and forcing Von into action for extended snaps may have been what he needed to turn the corner. (Plus the brace coming off). But the extended time to get into a rhythm and find yourself isn’t nothing. I don’t expect pre-ACL Von until next year, but if we can get late game Von from last night - moving forward, that’s going to be huge .. especially with Epenesa looking doubtful for Dallas. Edited December 12, 2023 by SCBills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: That was his best game, but he still played horrible football for the first 3.5 quarters. I guess you can say he "contributed" to the win with his 3 positive plays but it doesn't take away from the fact he was a net negative for 3.5 quarters. I’m not sue you can call him horrible when the defense only gave up 7 points in the first half, in part due to a short field. They gave up one long drive that resulted in a TD. He was asked to do a lot more with Epenesa out. He’s a 34 year old guy coming off an ACL, who just took his brace off….So if playing his best is in the last half of the 4th quarter, when the Bills needed it, I’ll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Norcalbillsfan said: That was his best game, but he still played horrible football for the first 3.5 quarters. I guess you can say he "contributed" to the win with his 3 positive plays but it doesn't take away from the fact he was a net negative for 3.5 quarters. He collapsed the pocket and allowed ED Oliver and Greg Rousseau to get a sack in the 1st quarter. Not sure what you were watching 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: He collapsed the pocket and allowed ED Oliver and Greg Rousseau to get a sack in the 1st quarter. Not sure what you were watching I watched the same game you did, like I said he had about 3 good plays. He was playing bad most of the game and at times hurting the team. Granted thats just my opinion as a fan, but I havent seen anyone that professionally analyzes football or the bills that disagrees with me yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Anyone think the Bills might need Von to step up to enable a playoff run this season ? How likely this is will be another matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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