Einstein Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 He is 3 weeks post comeback and there is very little bend to his rush, much slower get-off (you can tell he is trying to jump the snap to get the edge), and I have yet to see him win a single match-up. He simply looks bad. Last time he came back from an ICL injury he was younger, but he had 9 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 TFL in his first 3 games back. Do we feel Von is toast? His dead cap is $32.5M so he is not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I think he still has to work his way into shape. When Tre came back he took his time and it still wasn’t pretty. A few weeks ago I’d say “Von will be back to himself when it matters”. But now my concern is it matters right now or we don’t even make the playoffs 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Divit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Might go down as one of the worst signings in Bills history. Hey the should of thought about the injury risk for a 34 ur old end 6 1 6 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, NUT said: It takes longer to come back from that injury tham most people think, especially at his age. Some never come back from it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chugga said: I think he still has to work his way into shape. When Tre came back he took his time and it still wasn’t pretty. A few weeks ago I’d say “Von will be back to himself when it matters”. But now my concern is it matters right now or we don’t even make the playoffs He's young, almost only 35. He'll come around eventually. 🙄 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Do we have snap counts yet? I honestly can't recall a single play with Von Miller on the field. I at least noticed him the previous 2 weeks even though he didn't really do anything. I get that it takes a while to come back from an ACL injury at his age, but he's been a complete non-factor. There's no reason he should be on the active roster if he's going to be this limited in games. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Worst? Sheesh the takes are out today. He was great initially. If he was still on the sideline working his way back I don’t think anybody would blink, so I’m cool with giving it a little more time. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 He will be back to his best come the playoffs 2 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Some never come back from it. At 35, which he'll be in a few months, it's an uphill battle. Even if he does, perfectly, which is highly unlikely, he'll be a shell of his former self due to aging out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I honestly can't recall a single play with Von Miller on the field. I don’t blame you. When he played, it was as if we subbed in a JAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: He will be back to his best come the playoffs Yeah, he'll have an extended rest to come back for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) He's toast. At his age, even completely healthy he would be challenged learning to adjust his game to deal with the inevitable loss of a step. He's just too old to come back from an ACL. That was pretty much the one thing that couldn't happen with that contract. Cursed Edited October 22, 2023 by pigpen65 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: He will be back to his best come the playoffs 3 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Thought I saw him limping off and calling for a sub at the end of the half. Didn’t notice him after halftime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, BruceVilanch said: Yeah, he'll have an extended rest to come back for next season. Least he will make the most of New Year in the Bahamas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Yes, toast. Him and the rest of the injured and olds. Milano is the only good guy under contract that isn’t a thousand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I don’t blame you. When he played, it was as if we subbed in a JAG. I think right now, he is just a guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I’m sure he is still in the recovery phase of his comeback. It hasn’t yet been a year since his injury. Von needs to get through this to hopefully be an impact player by the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I hated the signing because of his age. You can’t call it the worst signing ever, but you can probably argue it was the riskiest. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: I think right now, he is just a guy. He’s just a guy with a contract and a salary that’s killing us. Edited October 22, 2023 by PayDaBill$ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr Divit said: Might go down as one of the worst signings in Bills history. Hey the should of thought about the injury risk for a 34 ur old end I’m willing to bet you didn’t voice your opinion here that you felt it was a dumb signing because of the injury risk. In fact, I don’t recall anyone saying that…for good reason. Now, is he toast? Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Andy1 said: I’m sure he is still in the recovery phase of his comeback. It hasn’t yet been a year since his injury. Von needs to get through this to hopefully be an impact player by the end of the year. This. I would see we are still about 4-5 games from seeing him really start to flash here and there. He'll make it back pretty far IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Totally washed. Need to just eat the cap in the off season with all the old guys and reset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, PayDaBill$ said: He’s a guy with a contract and salary that’s killing us. That was a name signing and nothing else, it appears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 At this age , after ACL repair, he might be getting paranoid about going full speed. Let’s give him a few more games , but if he can’t produce, he’s taking up a lot of cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: He will be back to his best come the playoffs We are trading him to a playoff team??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: I hated the signing because of his age. You can’t call it the worst signing ever, but you can probably argue it was the riskiest. It was high-risk/high-reward. Unfortunatelyh we've seen the risk side play out. But again, at the time we had no proven pass-rushers on the team, so Beane had to resort to the risky signing, or something. That's on him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, stevestojan said: That was a name signing and nothing else, it appears. & people wondered why Denver and the rams were willing to let his narcissistic diva ass go? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, PBF81 said: He's young, almost only 35. He'll come around eventually. 🙄 If you think a HOF talent can’t get himself back to relevancy that’s on you. It’s insane to give the guy 3 weeks and write him off. If this team was humming right now you’d be saying the same thing “he’ll be good when we need him”. But we suck all of a sudden and he’s toast 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chugga said: If you think a HOF talent can’t get himself back to relevancy that’s on you. It’s insane to give the guy 3 weeks and write him off. If this team was humming right now you’d be saying the same thing “he’ll be good when we need him”. But we suck all of a sudden and he’s toast My position's been unchanged since we signed him. My money says that he's finished as anything but JAG. But for the money he's getting, there's absolutely no way we get that level of play from him. Edited October 22, 2023 by PBF81 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Took Tre White almost two years to look back to form after his first injury. Wouldn’t doubt it takes Von until next season to look back to his normal form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Bills can't realistically move on from Miller until after next season. Got to hope he can at least get back into the form of a player who can somewhat contribute before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Jerry Jabber said: Took Tre White almost two years to look back to form after his first injury. Wouldn’t doubt it takes Von until next season to look back to his normal form. At which point he's what? 37? Pass. Injury settlement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 We have so much money tied up in old ineffective players on d. We lose d Jones, a good player but the kind of guy most teams have and you can sign every year in fa, and our entire d goes to mush. Why do we piss away so much on gadget guys (Hines, Harry) and neglect big dts and an NFL wr not named diggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Would be nice if he and Tre just retired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Einstein said: Some never come back from it. And some come back better. It's only 9 months from his injury. Will take time to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Took Tre White almost two years to look back to form after his first injury. Wouldn’t doubt it takes Von until next season to look back to his normal form. He’s an old man especially for DL. He’ll be pushing 35 + by next season. How many guys mid 30’s + are there making an impact at that position in this game. You can count them with a few fingers. He was meant to pay dividends in years 1 and 2 and get us to the the next level. It turned out to be a bust. Edited October 22, 2023 by PayDaBill$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 How much longer are the Bills tied up with his contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dr Divit said: Might go down as one of the worst signings in Bills history. Hey the should of thought about the injury risk for a 34 ur old end Mario Williams would probably be worse in terms of big money little production. He was good and so is Von, but Von at least helped win the game last year in KC by getting Mahomes out of the pocket and forcing a bad throw. Mario was just..... "i feel like playing this down" Edited October 22, 2023 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: He will be back to his best come the playoffs You think this team is going to the playoffs?!🤣 If so, please list out the specific 6 or 7 wins you see on the remaining schedule. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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