Estro Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) What would the Bills be willing to give up in trade compensation to acquire Patrick Surtain Jr. Regarded as one of the best young CB's in the league he'd certainly be a huge upgrade after the Tre White injury. He also has 2 cheap years left on his deal. He's due less than 2M for the rest of this year, a little over 3M next year and you still have the 5th year option to control his '25 season. The Bills have the next 4 games (including todays) to get a good look at how Benford, Jackson, Elam and perhaps even Ingram will hold it down at outside CB........but what would you be willing to part with to drop in one of the best young CBs onto this roster? I happen to think it would take a 1st + Elam at a minimum and likely a little more than that. I love the idea, but at that price and given what we've heard about the strength of the '24 draft it's tough. Edited October 8, 2023 by Estro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Given where we will likely be drafting, I’m guessing any conversation begins with our 1st.. as the bare minimum starting point. Id probably be open to a package involving our 1st and 3rd, given we have a comp 3rd this year. Its tough though.. We may be fine at CB with Jackson, Benford and Elam. And in terms of off-season needs, we’re staring at WR2, Safety and DT as premium pick needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I'm not in panic mode just yet. Trade deadline is 3 weeks away, so I let it play out a bit. Now if Benford is down for any period of time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Would Surtains contract be the issue? Salary Cap stretched to fit him in?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Baba Booey said: Would Surtains contract be the issue? Salary Cap stretched to fit him in?? No.. that’s why he’s so appealing. Elite player with this year and next on his rookie deal. Then the fifth year option after next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 No way the Broncos trade him. He is on his rookie deal and he is a top 10 corner. He is their best player, young and cheap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No way the Broncos trade him. He is on his rookie deal and he is a top 10 corner. He is their best player, young and cheap. Probably not, unless Denver decides they need to load up picks for a QB. Caleb Williams and Drake Maye look to be worthwhile QB’s to target this coming Draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, SCBills said: Probably not, unless Denver decides they need to load up picks for a QB. Caleb Williams and Drake Maye look to be worthwhile QB’s to target this coming Draft. They should land in the Williams/Maye conversation just in where they finish this year without having to move someone like Surtain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Why do people always think that they can just trade for any player? Just because Denver is a bad team doesn't mean they are going to trade one of their best players, still on a rookie contract, away. They still need to build a team to. It makes zero sense for them to trade him. Edited October 8, 2023 by Scott7975 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The only way I can see the Broncos letting him go is for a gross over compensation, which might let them in the QB sweepstakes. You don’t let good young players on a cheap deal go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Why do people always think that they can just trade for any player? Just because McDaniels is a bad head coach doesn't mean they are going to trade one of their best players, still on a rookie contract, away. They still need to build a team too. It makes zero sense for them to trade him. HuH?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mrags said: HuH?!? Woops was thinking Raiders for some reason. Same statement otherwise. Edited. Edited October 8, 2023 by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Why do people always think that they can just trade for any player? Just because Denver is a bad team doesn't mean they are going to trade one of their best players, still on a rookie contract, away. They still need to build a team to. It makes zero sense for them to trade him. Sean Payton redirecting draft resources in the way he wants may be what allows a deal like this to happen. Granted there is a roadblock with Paton being the one who drafted him. Either way a young safety on a rookie contract is not what will make them contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Breakout Squad Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, SCBills said: No.. that’s why he’s so appealing. Elite player with this year and next on his rookie deal. Then the fifth year option after next season. He is elite for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I’m told he’s good, but I would not want to trade for a cornerback who’s defense let up 70 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The Broncos are trying to win. They're not going to give up one of their best, young players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Estro said: What would the Bills be willing to give up in trade compensation to acquire Patrick Surtain Jr. Regarded as one of the best young CB's in the league he'd certainly be a huge upgrade after the Tre White injury. He also has 2 cheap years left on his deal. He's due less than 2M for the rest of this year, a little over 3M next year and you still have the 5th year option to control his '25 season. The Bills have the next 4 games (including todays) to get a good look at how Benford, Jackson, Elam and perhaps even Ingram will hold it down at outside CB........but what would you be willing to part with to drop in one of the best young CBs onto this roster? I happen to think it would take a 1st + Elam at a minimum and likely a little more than that. I love the idea, but at that price and given what we've heard about the strength of the '24 draft it's tough. Hypothetically, #32😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Why on earth would Denver trade him? Even if they were wanting to tank the season he’s still probably their most important building block on the roster. I think fantasy football has rotted some brains maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I am of the opinion that yes Beane needs to be making calls, but also waiting to see how we do with what we have up to the trade deadline. I can see elam and a pick to get a guy who (more than apparently Elam does) fits Sean's system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Lol, why would the Broncos do this? He’s one of the best DBs in the league and is still on rookie deal. Prob would take 5 first round picks to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 If he’s even available, a first and probably a 3rd or 4th. This wouldn’t be a discounted move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: No way the Broncos trade him. He is on his rookie deal and he is a top 10 corner. He is their best player, young and cheap. exactly--this is a nutty idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Estro said: What would the Bills be willing to give up in trade compensation to acquire Patrick Surtain Jr. Regarded as one of the best young CB's in the league he'd certainly be a huge upgrade after the Tre White injury. He also has 2 cheap years left on his deal. He's due less than 2M for the rest of this year, a little over 3M next year and you still have the 5th year option to control his '25 season. The Bills have the next 4 games (including todays) to get a good look at how Benford, Jackson, Elam and perhaps even Ingram will hold it down at outside CB........but what would you be willing to part with to drop in one of the best young CBs onto this roster? I happen to think it would take a 1st + Elam at a minimum and likely a little more than that. I love the idea, but at that price and given what we've heard about the strength of the '24 draft it's tough. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Benford and a 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) I’m going all in on acquiring assets at a cost to move in on Harrison Jr. He’s the most complete WR I’ve seen in a long time. His QB isn’t great this year either. Also, his dad knows the importance of playing for a QB master talent. I honestly think Buffalo would be the primo situation for Junior. Mahomes and Reid screw around too much with the ball. From Allen he’d get straight bullets 20-30 yards down the field. It’s unlikely, but if you haven’t seen Harrison play, just watch. Size, length, hands, body control, ball skills, grace.. he’s really unreal. Of course, every team would want him, but if he shows interest in Buffalo, OBD should consider it a transformation addition. Edited October 8, 2023 by Thrivefourfive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Trade Knox and a 5th. His value is plummeting. Cash in while people still remembering him securing a catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Schefter is reporting the Broncos are open to trade talks on quite a few players. In such a loaded draft with multiple big time QB prospects and top tier wide receivers etc.. I have to think the sellers will be more open than last year to move guys. So, maybe it’s not Denver we reach out to, maybe it is, but I think there will be plenty of opportunities to bring in a LB, DT and/or CB that at least can help solidify the units, if needed. Edited October 8, 2023 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Let’s be real, we all love Tre White but this is probably the end of him. This secondary has been amazing but they are old. I’d give a first for this guy without hesitation. Hopefully that pick is 32 anyway. Go get the new number 1 corner for as many years as possible. The guy we draft in the first won’t be as good as this guy anyway. There should be zero fear in doing that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Let’s be real, we all love Tre White but this is probably the end of him. This secondary has been amazing but they are old. I’d give a first for this guy without hesitation. Hopefully that pick is 32 anyway. Go get the new number 1 corner for as many years as possible. The guy we draft in the first won’t be as good as this guy anyway. There should be zero fear in doing that deal. Im just worried we need to spend a high pick on a new safety too. Poyer is absolutely shot and Hyde is getting there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 They got a couple of other holes as well now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I think he’s worth more than Beane is willing to pay. The Cowboys can offer more and Jerry will get the deal. We trade picks to move up in the draft for guys we don’t fully feature in our offense and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said: I think he’s worth more than Beane is willing to pay. The Cowboys can offer more and Jerry will get the deal. We trade picks to move up in the draft for guys we don’t fully feature in our offense and defense. We should trade all our first and second picks for thirds thru sixth we are better at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Im just worried we need to spend a high pick on a new safety too. Poyer is absolutely shot and Hyde is getting there. That’s fine but you aren’t taking one in round 1 anyway. You got to take a swing here. Obviously offer Denver a 2nd bit if they push back, I’m cool with it. Plus it’s all what to do about nothing because deep down we know this is fan fiction. Never happening. Will just be calling up a scrub guy like Ingram then wondering why we can’t get off the field on 3rd down. Replace an A player with a fringe PS D- and think it’s working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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