wppete Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Between Irsay’s comments on Taylor and Jerry Jones on Martin, these GM’s are on one this week.. yeesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Irsay off the meds again? Irsay back on the (illegal) meds again? Ridge it’s purely for medicinal purposes of course. As if he ever stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFan4 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 😬 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Mikie2times said: I wonder if if a positional strike has any possibility. the whole problem is that outside of like 5 guys, most are relatively replaceable it’s a common skill set and body type and backs 10 through 64 don’t change quality tooooo drastically as long as they fit your scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, DJB said: 34 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: 😬 These two quotes seem to contradict each other in my opinion Maybe irsay is back on the drugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bigduke6 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) people seem to forget that for a RB to be successful, you need much more than just the RB. how often do you see top RBs switch teams and continue to be successful? hell, they rarely stay successful on their original team for an extended period of time anymore. there is a reason why RBs are valued so low now. you need 5 other guys to also help make that RB be good. Zeke was on fire his first few years for the Cowboys. helped that the they had one of the best OLines in the league at that point. injuries, guys moving on, suddenly Zeke cant RB anymore. the biggest problem with the NFL running game now is the majority of college teams dont use a power running game anymore, mostly spread offenses, which leads to a glut of OLinemen that cant block for that kind of run game. college has become a wide open passing fest cuz its easier to teach pass blocking quickly to young kids. Wiscy employs the power running game because its tradition, also a tradition of zero competent QB play. Taylor appears to be good, just how many NFL lines are built for what he can do though? im sure this is about money, it usually is, and im sure theres a team out there that is just desperate enough to make a move for him, will they have a line that can accommodate Taylor and continue to make him look good? highly unlikely. either way, must suck to be a Colts fan atm. Edited July 30, 2023 by bigduke6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 He'll be traded in September I guess. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 4 hours ago, SCBills said: I doubt he wants to get traded anywhere to play without a long term contract. So.. if people here want to trade for him, what are you willing to give up and what are you willing to pay him.. and for how long? The Cover1 guy had an interesting take on this. Our "offer" is: come showcase in a top offense, no new deal, but something in writing we wont slap a franchise tag on him. Do i want this? Yes. Will it happen? Also no, but my gummy is kickin' in... check back in an hour 4 hours ago, Mr Wild said: Probably not the best way to handle this Jim Dude how mad are you if you're Ballard tonight! lol everything is fine waking up, then by afternoon Jim 'OxyContin30' Irsay kicks down your door with a ---hold muh beeer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) If the $16 million per year is true, then I take Irsay's side (including his ill-fitting suit — how can you have hundreds of millions of dollars and not get a suit that fits?). Taylor is high as a MF IF that's true. Maybe some desperate team might pay that but it won't be a contender. And for anyone who says "trade Cook for Taylor!" I say Cook is not Taylor but I'll take his production and $1.3, $1.6, and $1.9 million rookie cap hits over the next three years (including 2023) over Taylor's production and salary. Edited July 30, 2023 by Nephilim17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: If the $16 million per year is true, then I take Irsay's side (including his ill-fitting suit — how can you have hundreds of millions of dollars and not get a suit that fits?). Taylor is high as a MF IF that's true. Maybe some desperate team might pay that but it won't be a contender. And for anyone who says "trade Cook for Taylor!" I say Cook is not Taylor but I'll take his production and $1.3, $1.6, and $1.9 million rookie cap hits over the next three years (including 2023) over Taylor's production and salary. Absolutely. You don’t pay a running back in todays NFL, you just don’t. Go draft one and get 80%+ of the production at 1/12th the cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Absolutely. You don’t pay a running back in todays NFL, you just don’t. Go draft one and get 80%+ of the production at 1/12th the cost. End of the day I would not agree to pay him anything more then 10 million a season and he is the best in the business running the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 From those quotes it appeara Irsay was drunk. Which I always assume with him in any event. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: 😬 That's actually a beautiful quote. Al Davis and John Madden, maybe not... but Irsay and Jonathan, probably a humble, true statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 The Bills have a ton of cap space to overpay an RB whose best days are probably behind him. Let's do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 When is the cba up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 If I am Taylor, I clam up and bring in the hammer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loedward22 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: When is the cba up? I think it goes through 2030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: When is the cba up? Why do you ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, SCBills said: This coming out right after the reports he requested a trade is very suspicious. makes it seem like a leak from the team/owner (assuming this tweet is even true) and I question it’s accuracy considering that it’s being reported (and more/less confirmed by Irsay) that the colts haven’t even discussed a new contract with him. Irsay just said a couple days ago (on July 27th) that “We haven’t exchanged any contract numbers with each other or anything like that. So, it's not like we're in the midst of that.” https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38085290/running-back-comment-not-aimed-jonathan-taylor Edited July 31, 2023 by BillsFan4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: From those quotes it appeara Irsay was drunk. Which I always assume with him in any event. I have seen reports that Taylor failed his physical and is on PUP now. I would drug test his agent first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, FireChans said: I have seen reports that Taylor failed his physical and is on PUP now. I would drug test his agent first. Things may start to get UGLY in Indy... Edited July 31, 2023 by BuffaloBillyG 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Things may start to get UGLY in Indy... Whew… that’s dirty. It also points to the Colts calling Taylor’s bluff … they clearly believe he’s lying. Colts fans seem to be siding with Irsay on this, in a quick glance at their board. Edited July 31, 2023 by SCBills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: This coming out right after the reports he requested a trade is very suspicious and makes it seem like a leak from the team/owner (assuming this tweet is even true). https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38085290/running-back-comment-not-aimed-jonathan-taylor it literally said it was from a team source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, SCBills said: Whew… that’s dirty. It also points to the Colts calling Taylor’s bluff … they clearly believe he’s lying. Colts fans seem to be siding with Irsay on this, in a quick glance at their board. I don't know if he's lying but I do know 2 things for sure about this. 1. Taylor was reported to being on the "RB Video Call" where they discussed exaggerating injuries to their benefit (still don't see how that would help their case) 2. Back injuries are amoung the trickiest to prove or disprove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Things may start to get UGLY in Indy... Uglier. Especially if they try and force Richardson into the lineup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Things may start to get UGLY in Indy... The sources are the one's playing hard ball with you. Why not just say the sources are lying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) On 7/29/2023 at 4:29 PM, Mikie2times said: I wonder if if a positional strike has any possibility. good question, but unlikely. I’m guessing the CBA has a no-strike clause. Edited July 31, 2023 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I've never been happier NOT to have a star running back. Now in addition to them being the worst value on the roster, they are becoming a massive off-field distraction. I'm perfectly happy rolling into the season with James Cook, Damien Harris and Latavius Murray, and letting other teams deal with the mess. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On one hand, RBs are worthless and should be paid pennies in relation to their production. On the other, Jonathan Taylor is so good we will not entertain his trade request because our team is sunk without him. Make up your minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 13 hours ago, NoSaint said: it literally said it was from a team source I worded my statement poorly but my point was that it smells like a BS front office leak to try and make Taylor look bad after he requested a trade, especially considering that just a couple days before that Jim Irsay said that the team and Taylor hadn’t even exchanged contract offers yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: On one hand, RBs are worthless and should be paid pennies in relation to their production. On the other, Jonathan Taylor is so good we will not entertain his trade request because our team is sunk without him. Make up your minds. They are starting a raw rookie QB. They are sunk either way at least next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I'd imagine Taylor will be filing a grievance against the team. Somebody leaking info like that is no bueno. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, mjt328 said: I've never been happier NOT to have a star running back. Now in addition to them being the worst value on the roster, they are becoming a massive off-field distraction. I'm perfectly happy rolling into the season with James Cook, Damien Harris and Latavius Murray, and letting other teams deal with the mess. I think we’re about to have a star RB. Maybe not a top 5 rb- but top 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Well this could lead to new developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I think we’re about to have a star RB. Maybe not a top 5 rb- but top 10 Expecting big things from Latavius Murray, eh? 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 2:04 PM, SCBills said: On 7/29/2023 at 2:17 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: Detroit would be a good spot as well The trade away of DeAndre Swift makes me think they don’t want a star running back. On 7/29/2023 at 5:41 PM, Solomon Grundy said: Well.. What is Saquon Barkley then? I think Etienne’s comments landed closer to Derrick Henry. Barkley has a good all-around game. On 7/29/2023 at 5:59 PM, DJB said: Irsay is nuts lol Yup. Spoiled rich kid who inherited the team and has too much money and time in his quartile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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