New Stadium Location question.

[AuntieEm]

 

Is the location still on the site òf the Indian village/burial ol grounds?   I googled the urban legend of the curse of the stadium being built on indian burial ground and  learned of the Sheldon family cemetery which was not disturbed and I learned the direction of the stadium wind tunnel effect is due to the original stadium orientation having to be adjusted so the construction of the stadium did not disturb the cemetery which I read is just outside gate 7 at the stadium.

 

Good news is the new stadium will no doubt be oriented to remove the wind tunnel effect the current stadium has.  Now once they demolish the old stadium I believe the plan is to use the area as parking for the new stadium?  If so curious how they will zone off the Sheldon family cemetery.  Be a bit odd to have a cemetery in the middle of stadium I parking lots.  Maybe set up a second cemetery to mirror the Sheldon family cemetery and we can designate the mirror cemetery as the place Mafia can perform burial rites pregame cleremonies for that weeks opponents.  

 

 

Any other suggestions to what needs to be done to finally  removing the curse?  It sure seems to have been running amok disrupting the Buffalo sports teamsnot just the Bills.  The skate in the crease for the 2006 SCF loss.  And before that the puck through the side of net or the bát that was killed in the old Aud.  Definitely some strange occurrences fill our sports history.  We need to cleanse the bad karma once and for all.  What steps do you all think need to be taken?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2023 by AuntieEm

[CaptnCoke11]

This is weird

[BritBill]

If Josh Allen starts staring into a television which is only showing white scramble we're in bother. 

[freddyjj]

2 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

The skate in the crease for the 2006 SCF loss. 

Errrgggh 1999 was the Stanley Cup Final vs Stars.  Sabres were knocked out of playoffs by Carolina in Eastern Finals in 2006. 

 

The end of your post got kinda creepy. 

[DJB]

Remind me to not eat any cookies at AuntieEm’s house everyone 

[Arkady Renko]

1 hour ago, NUT said:

Humans have this weird thing with burial grounds. Those ppl are long rotted away. Blacktop.

Why don’t we just recycle people like in Brave New World while we are at it?

[Wacka]

The stadium is going where the  RV lot and ECC parking lots are located across Abbott Road from the stadium.  I never heard  the there was an Indian burial ground on the stadium property.  The family cemetery is in the back corner NE of the lot . They won't need to use that land after the new stadium is built, so no need to disturb it any more. 

[LabattBlue]

4 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

…Maybe set up a second cemetery to mirror the Sheldon family cemetery and we can designate the mirror cemetery as the place Mafia can perform burial rites pregame cleremonies for that weeks opponents.  

C’mon man! 👎🏻

[Kirby Jackson]

The burial ground is back behind the current stadium. It is where those woods are. 

[SectionC3]

25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The burial ground is back behind the current stadium. It is where those woods are. 

You would know better than me, but that would surprise me a bit.  The situs of the stadium is (and was, to my understanding) the high point of that area.  The Sheldons buried within yards of what became one of the gates.  I'd be surprised if the Native American burial area is that much closer to the creek.  

34 minutes ago, Wacka said:

The stadium is going where the  RV lot and ECC parking lots are located across Abbott Road from the stadium.  I never heard  the there was an Indian burial ground on the stadium property.  The family cemetery is in the back corner NE of the lot . They won't need to use that land after the new stadium is built, so no need to disturb it any more. 

The story has been that the burial ground was disturbed by the stadium.  It's been said/urban legend/rumor/whatever for decades.  

[damj]

1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said:

Why don’t we just recycle people like in Brave New World while we are at it?

[SoCal Deek]

There was an Indian named Sheldon? Go figure! 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

2 hours ago, Arkady Renko said:

Why don’t we just recycle people like in Brave New World while we are at it?

 

Exactly. Let's use them. Dig these old boys up, get them in Bills gear, and put them around the stadium in various places like the Bills store, the giant Buffalo, and next to the pissing troughs. Respectably, of course. Put "No Touching" signs on them, hose them down after games, that sort of thing.

[PBF81]

7 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

 

Is the location still on the site òf the Indian village/burial ol grounds?   I googled the urban legend of the curse of the stadium being built on indian burial ground and  learned of the Sheldon family cemetery which was not disturbed and I learned the direction of the stadium wind tunnel effect is due to the original stadium orientation having to be adjusted so the construction of the stadium did not disturb the cemetery which I read is just outside gate 7 at the stadium.

 

Good news is the new stadium will no doubt be oriented to remove the wind tunnel effect the current stadium has.  Now once they demolish the old stadium I believe the plan is to use the area as parking for the new stadium?  If so curious how they will zone off the Sheldon family cemetery.  Be a bit odd to have a cemetery in the middle of stadium I parking lots.  Maybe set up a second cemetery to mirror the Sheldon family cemetery and we can designate the mirror cemetery as the place Mafia can perform burial rites pregame cleremonies for that weeks opponents.  

 

 

Any other suggestions to what needs to be done to finally  removing the curse?  It sure seems to have been running amok disrupting the Buffalo sports teamsnot just the Bills.  The skate in the crease for the 2006 SCF loss.  And before that the puck through the side of net or the bát that was killed in the old Aud.  Definitely some strange occurrences fill our sports history.  We need to cleanse the bad karma once and for all.  What steps do you all think need to be taken? 

 

You were joking, right?

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

You would know better than me, but that would surprise me a bit.  The situs of the stadium is (and was, to my understanding) the high point of that area.  The Sheldons buried within yards of what became one of the gates.  I'd be surprised if the Native American burial area is that much closer to the creek.  

The story has been that the burial ground was disturbed by the stadium.  It's been said/urban legend/rumor/whatever for decades.  

We are saying the same thing. As I understand it, it is back near the football field that the kids use. I’m not sure exactly where but in that general area. 

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

We are saying the same thing. As I understand it, it is back near the football field that the kids use. I’m not sure exactly where but in that general area. 

ooh, even better!!!

[Ned Flanders]

7 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

Any other suggestions to what needs to be done to finally removing the curse?  We need to cleanse the bad karma once and for all.  What steps do you all think need to be taken?

Get rid of team message boards.  

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

[Fr. Jerk]

[Draconator]

This board makes me drink

[Beast]

Dig those old corpses up and plant them right under the visitors locker room.

[SectionC3]

59 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

We are saying the same thing. As I understand it, it is back near the football field that the kids use. I’m not sure exactly where but in that general area. 

That makes more sense.  The kids field is fairly close to the Sheldon plot, and significantly upgradient from the creek.  I suspect the native burial ground probably is somewhere between the Sheldon space and what now is that field.  

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

There was an Indian named Sheldon? Go figure! 

No, but there is a cemetery on site (maybe 50 yards from gate 7).  Check it out on Google Maps.  It’s the Sheldon Family cemetery.  (There’s also a Sheldon Road about not far from the stadium and where the Sheldon family homestead used to be.)

[SoTier]

If there were existing graves on the current stadium site fifty years ago, they would have been exhumed and moved elsewhere.   The discovery of old cemeteries/burying grounds during construction for some project is quite common.   In fact, most cities in the US would probably be cursed if disturbing old graves could conjure up a curse because most cities started out as tiny little settlements with burying grounds within walking distance of the center of town.  In the nineteenth (and sometimes into the twentieth century), as cities grew, they would create new, larger public cemeteries further out on the periphery of the city limits or even beyond and move the graves from the old cemeteries there.

 

If graves in private cemeteries weren't marked with stone markers and/or the caretakers of the cemeteries died or move away, these burying grounds might be lost for decades or even centuries until somebody decided to build a house or building on the site and unearthed bones.   The remains are then removed and re-interred elsewhere.

 

We have a grave site -- or at least a headstone-- on our property south of Gowanda that we found back in 1960 shortly after we moved there.  It's located on a hillside in what was then a cow pasture and is now a woodlot.  The date was from 1869, an eighteen year old woman named Ella or Emma.    There were no other signs of graves there, and we didn't go looking to find more.  It might have just been a single grave or it might have been that other graves were marked with wooden crosses that disintegrated over time.

[Just Jack]

Sheldon Cemetary 

 

https://goo.gl/maps/iv5FWsuMxwH9q21A9

[Kwai San]

1 hour ago, Draconator said:

This board makes me drink

 

Heavily!!

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

That makes more sense.  The kids field is fairly close to the Sheldon plot, and significantly upgradient from the creek.  I suspect the native burial ground probably is somewhere between the Sheldon space and what now is that field.  

No, but there is a cemetery on site (maybe 50 yards from gate 7).  Check it out on Google Maps.  It’s the Sheldon Family cemetery.  (There’s also a Sheldon Road about not far from the stadium and where the Sheldon family homestead used to be.)

I was kidding. 

[Tuco]

The cemetery is already right in the middle of things. If they didn't disturb it for the stadium, they're not going to disturb it for a parking lot. 

 

Not sure if there's anything to the Native American (see what I did there?) burial grounds.

 

The good news is the new stadium will be across the road and off the land of the cemetery. So hopefully no more curse.

 

 

[Arkady Renko]

2 hours ago, Tuco said:

Not sure if there's anything to the Native American (see what I did there?) burial grounds.

Indigenous is the more up to date nomenclature, brah. 

[Tuco]

46 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said:

Indigenous is the more up to date nomenclature, brah. 

 

Thanks I usually run a few years behind.

[AuntieEm]

6 hours ago, SoTier said:

If there were existing graves on the current stadium site fifty years ago, they would have been exhumed and moved elsewhere.   The discovery of old cemeteries/burying grounds during construction for some project is quite common.   In fact, most cities in the US would probably be cursed if disturbing old graves could conjure up a curse because most cities started out as tiny little settlements with burying grounds within walking distance of the center of town.  In the nineteenth (and sometimes into the twentieth century), as cities grew, they would create new, larger public cemeteries further out on the periphery of the city limits or even beyond and move the graves from the old cemeteries there.

 

  Actually one of the articles I read on my Google stated that there was a petition back then to prevent the architects from moving the remains.  Seems Ralph Wilson respected their request and had the architects realign the stadium  as the original placement would have had the cemetery at the 50 yd line.  The realignment is the reason þhè stadium had its wind tunnel effect and swirling winds ar dome late season games.

 

 

 

[AuntieEm]

9 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

The story has been that the burial ground was disturbed by the stadium.  It's been said/urban legend/rumor/whatever for decades.  

 

 Yea I always heard the urban legend which had me google it and I was surprised on the various facts.  The indigenous aspect is that is the location of an Indian village.   I myself do truly find it interesting, always found archeology a fascinating area of study.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

 

 Yea I always heard the urban legend which had me google it and I was surprised on the various facts.  The indigenous aspect is that is the location of an Indian village.   I myself do truly find it interesting, always found archeology a fascinating area of study.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What’s funny is when I actually uncovered Indian bones on my project site the archeologist said to me …”ya know, I always wanted to be an architect”. 😂

[Simon Says]

"Curses " and superstition are not worth our time. 

[WotAGuy]

The Sheldon Cemetery is immediately outside Gate 7. It’s labeled on Google Maps. 

[Mr. WEO]

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