Rodgers Traded to Jets Officially

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

18 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Yep.

 

 

Difference is that Favre didn’t go to a Jets team with a great RB, exciting young WR, and best defense in the NFL.

 

 

 

 

 

Favre went to a jets team with one of the best offensive lines in football though…multiple pro bowlers and a should be hall of famer.

 

the current jets are very much not that on the OL.  If they hold up there they could be great but there’s a pretty decent  chance we see early last season Aaron rodgers/packers offense 

[gobills404]

27 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I'm more worried about that defense. The Bills had a rough time against it last season and lost to zack Wilson led jets because of that defense. Anyone saying that this is not an upgrade for the jets is silly. Im not predicting anything other that a dog fight in the arc east. 

Literally nobody is saying that

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

30 minutes ago, jaybills said:

He had noone to throw to. 

It was the offensive line…packers oline was absolutely awful early in the season and then they did a huge reshuffle and locked it down a bit.

 

The jets don’t have world beaters at wr either 

[Chaos]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It was the offensive line…packers oline was absolutely awful early in the season and then they did a huge reshuffle and locked it down a bit.

 

The jets don’t have world beaters at wr either 

the jets rookie of the year WR was pretty good. 

[Meatloaf63]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

 

a 2024 1st round pick is valued as a 2nd rounds pick today.

 

Future assets are devalued typically by 1 round.

Except it will be a first round next year no getting around it. When next year rolls around and they don’t have a first round pick nobody’s gonna say oh that’s worth a second. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

12 minutes ago, mjohns85 said:

Hopefully this trade encourages Beane to go make a play for Dhop 

"We need a sneaky fast, sneaky small, sneaky powerful edge rusher!!!  Defense, all ahead full!"

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Blame it on Aaron Rodgers.

[Rico]

1 hour ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

and the jets still have a joke of a head coach. 

Total Meathead

 

Garrett Wilson is very nice at WR1, but even he’s not very scary to me. No one else even scares me at all, not even Rodgers.

 

Now the Bengals, that’s another story.

[1onemangang7]

13 minutes ago, mjohns85 said:

Hopefully this trade encourages Beane to go make a play for Dhop 

Hopefully it encourages him to get that dynamic back, like BRob.  With that i think they have enough at WR.  You just cant tell.  Running game is what's missing. 

[Captain Hindsight]

34 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

The crazy part of Farve was ended up being really good the next year and almost went to the SB with Minny.

Farve was playing well for the Jets then tore his bicep and lost his arm

 

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, Rico said:

Total Meathead

 

Garrett Wilson is very nice at WR1, but even he’s not very scary to me. No one else even scares me at all, not even Rodgers.

 

Now the Bengals, that’s another story.

Rodgers will make someone a fantasy star.  Im not too worried about Cincinnati.  That coach cried and cried how they got ripped off, and  were in the championship game.  Shut up and beat KC ya crybaby.  He's their detriment.  

[BillsFan4]

This is an undeniable upgrade at Qb for the Jets even if Rodgers is average. If he’s anywhere near MVP level it’s obviously a huge upgrade. So I do expect the Jets to be better next season. But they are also going to have a lot of pressure and expectations on them now. It’ll be interesting to see how the team + coaches handle the much higher expectations.

 

Also, this could really complicate the Jets future cap situation. 
 

https://overthecap.com/jets-and-packers-agree-on-trade-for-aaron-rodgers

 

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The Jets are responsible for Rodgers $59.515 million salary in 2023, but he will only count for $15.79 million on the salary cap. Things get tricky in 2024 because the cap charges are largely based on what Rodgers decides to do. Rodgers has $49.25 million that is protected for injury in 2024 and it becomes fully guaranteed if he is on the roster a few days after the Super Bowl.

 

There are three scenarios for 2024. If Rodgers plays his cap hit will be $32.541 million. If he decides he no longer wants to be with the Jets or they decide they no longer want him he will count for $43.725 million in dead money. If he retires he would likely sign a contract to help the team out which would split his dead money cap charge to $14.575 million in 2024 and $29.15 million in 2025.

 

If Rodgers makes it to 2025 again there would be multiple scenarios. Technically, he is under contract for the 2025 season but the salary is so low it is unlikely that he would ever honor the deal.  If he decides to not want to play for the Jets they would have to deal with $60.48 million in dead money in 2025.  My feeling is he would work with the team whether if being released or retired to allow the Jets to split that number at $30.241 million per year. If he decided he wants to continue with the Jets they would still have a minimum of $30.241 million in cap charges and would add on to that accordingly.

 

As for the Bills, this makes our division harder. But we only play NY twice. It shouldn’t make our break our season. 

[1onemangang7]

22 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Literally nobody is saying that

yeah they are.  

[filthymcnasty08]

1 hour ago, FLFan said:

Rogers performance last year in all major statistical categories  was well below his career average numbers.  He was flat out mediocre in a number of games I saw.  No one knows of course whether 2022 was an anomaly or the beginning of the end for a great player.  It is not unusual for players to suffer a precipitous decline at the end of their useful shelf life in the NFL, especially quarterbacks.  Rogers strikes me as a player who has mentally checked out.  Perhaps he will be revived with his new team, perhaps the skills are intact and he will make a run at MVP in 2023.  He has always been too selfish to be much of a leader so the Jets should not be counting on that.  Personally, I would not bet on a Rogers turnaround.  That said, even 50% of his best self is an upgrade over what the Jets had, so on paper at least, they are better.  They now probably have the second best QB in the division.  They should certainly not be favored over the Bills to win the AFCE, and they are not.  

 

I think he was a year past "being done" w the Packers org.  Losing Adams was a major blow to that offense as well.  He had 2 rookie WR's and Lazard who is a WR2 at best on most teams.  He definitely needed to move on and is now in his prime "win now" years with a stacked team a la Brady.

 

The Jets are nasty on D.  Under 200 passing ypg allowed.  Sauce island is here for the duration of Josh.  The reality is that they are not going to have to shootout to win most games.  

[Ya Digg?]

11 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

yeah they are.  

People have said having Aaron Rodgers instead of Zach Wilson makes them worse??? 🤔🤔🤔

[filthymcnasty08]

29 minutes ago, Chaos said:

the jets rookie of the year WR was pretty good. 

They had the OROY and the DROY

They had the true OROY on top of that before he got injured.

 

They smashed the draft last year.  Go Bills but....yuck.

[90sBills]

AFCE will be tough and unpredictable next season! The only certain outcome will be Cheatiots last in the division!

[Goin Breakdown]

37 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Literally nobody is saying that

If we are using the word literally then yes, I have heard people down playing it. I didn't say everyone is or that you were but there are those who have. It's not even the main point anyways. Go Bills!

[Chaos]

The AFC East will be won by the team with the best head coach under 70 this year.

[1onemangang7]

9 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

People have said having Aaron Rodgers instead of Zach Wilson makes them worse??? 🤔🤔🤔

so you can read...go find em

[Thrivefourfive]

Yaokay, so the Bills have kill this quarterback and make him look old. They know what they have to do.

[ColoradoBills]

First, as to Green Bay.  Before anyone praises their picks for the trade let's remember Rodgers was signed on his earlier contract through this season.

They let Aaron force them to sign that 3-year extension and they didn't get out of that for free.  They take a $40M cap hit this season.  Not having

Love playing at all they are stuck with a 5th-year option dilemma.  If Love fails, they are going to be hurting to find a QB.

 

Second, as for the Jets.  They no doubt improved and are "ALL IN" for this season.  The whole NFL will have to wait to see how this works out.

Rodgers cap hit is only $15.8M this season BUT they are paying out a lot of cash this year.  The 2024 #1 pick can be claimed to be a #2 but

that won't mean anything next season when they don't have the #1.  Jets have a lot of players who will be UFAs next season.  If this marriage

doesn't work out this season, and Aaron retires, they are right back where they were.  Looking at the tough Jets schedule which is far tougher

than the team has had in the past will be very interesting.

 

Third, as for the Bills.  Can't deny the Jets will be tougher this season.  One thing I feel Beane can't do is get into an "arms race" because of

this.  He needs to stick with their off season plans and let the players play up to the new Jets competition.  My initial feeling is the teams

split their home games.  That's not a disaster for the Bills.

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by ColoradoBills

[gobills404]

29 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

yeah they are.  

Go find em

[DCofNC]

Actually pretty solid on the Jets side, if he gets hurt or is God Awful, pull him and avoid the pick, if he’s playing well, it’s a worth a first.

 

Huge “If”, but IF he’s healthy and playing to his best level, I think the Jets just moved to the favorite to win the division. Still a major “IF”, though.

Edited April 24, 2023 by DCofNC

[1onemangang7]

2 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Go find em

it's silly just like the guy said

[Ya Digg?]

9 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

so you can read...go find em

Why be a d+*k about it? You’re the one claiming it, prove it 

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Actually pretty solid on the Jets side, if he gets hurt or is God Awful, pull him and avoid the pick, if he’s playing well, it’s a worth a first.

Or it could be somewhere in the middle which ostensibly makes for a tougher decision, though I can't see them pulling him unless he is truly awful which I doubt happens.

[DCofNC]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Or it could be somewhere in the middle which ostensibly makes for a tougher decision, though I can't see them pulling him unless he is truly awful which I doubt happens.

I see it more as a play against injury.   That said, if he’s really REALLY bad, they could pull him too.

[Jrb1979]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Or it could be somewhere in the middle which ostensibly makes for a tougher decision, though I can't see them pulling him unless he is truly awful which I doubt happens.

Either way the division got a lot harder. It's not a given the Bills are the number 1. It's going to be a dog fight the whole season. 

[papazoid]

caesars futures to win the AFCE

 

bills +135

jets +200

mia +320

pats +1000

[Dr. Who]

3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Either way the division got a lot harder. It's not a given the Bills are the number 1. It's going to be a dog fight the whole season. 

I haven't read anyone who believes the Jets are not better with Rodgers. I am still in the camp that believes the Bills remain the best team, but the division is very good and it might be the best in the league. The AFC in general is stacked. Nearly all the good QBs reside there. OTOH, everyone expected the AFC West to be a murderers row last year and that turned out a mirage.

[The Frankish Reich]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Brett Favre 2.0

 

 

We should pray that he isn't that good. 

Favre took the Jets from being the 25th ranked scoring offense to the 9th ranked. Anything similar to that with Rodgers - and with the Jets defense - would not be a good thing for us.

2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I haven't read anyone who believes the Jets are not better with Rodgers.

Exactly. We're not talking about replacing some middle of the road QB like Andy Dalton with Aaron Rodgers. We are talking about taking maybe the worst QB room in football and bringing in a guy who was the MVP in 2020 and 2021. He doesn't have to be godlike to make them a lot better.

[Aussie Joe]

7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

We should pray that he isn't that good. 

Favre took the Jets from being the 25th ranked scoring offense to the 9th ranked. Anything similar to that with Rodgers - and with the Jets defense - would not be a good thing for us.

Exactly. We're not talking about replacing some middle of the road QB like Andy Dalton with Aaron Rodgers. We are talking about taking maybe the worst QB room in football and bringing in a guy who was the MVP in 2020 and 2021. He doesn't have to be godlike to make them a lot better.

Let’s just worry about ourselves first hey?

 

If the Bills are playing close to their best like the start of the season last year… they should still be ok for the Division and a Championship run..

 

If they play like the second half of last season… then it won’t really matter what the Jets are doing …because that level of play isn’t doing much come the playoffs as we saw in January..

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Let’s just worry about ourselves first hey?

 

If the Bills are playing close to their best like the start of the season last year… they should still be ok for the Division and a Championship run..

 

If they play like the second half of last season… then it won’t really matter what the Jets are doing …because that level of play isn’t doing much come the playoffs as we saw in January..

Right. I'm not all doom and gloom here, but it is now obvious that the AFC East is competitive again. I kind of wish we could have had our 2 decade run of opposition ineptitude like the Pats had. But that was an aberration in the modern NFL.

[stevewin]

Thanks to OP for starting a new thread and not having this discussion be embedded 50 pages into the Rodgers talking to Jets thread

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, stevewin said:

Thanks to OP for starting a new thread and not having this discussion be embedded 50 pages into the Rodgers talking to Jets thread

Gotta love common sense thread starting rules

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Right. I'm not all doom and gloom here, but it is now obvious that the AFC East is competitive again. I kind of wish we could have had our 2 decade run of opposition ineptitude like the Pats had. But that was an aberration in the modern NFL.

Yes I agree.. it’s gunna be a tougher division … but the biggest threats will still  be the Chiefs and Bengals..

 

 

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Winning the division got real hard. Not a lot of holes on that roster. 

Rodgers puts the Jets right there with Miami and the Bills. Any of the three teams can win the division. 

 

It's gonna be a dogfight. The path for the Bills isn't easy. 

 

Some might think the Bills don't even have the best QB in the division. Tua is a winner and Rodgers is a Super Bowl winner and multiple MVP winner. Allen has nice regular season wins. 

Edited April 25, 2023 by newcam2012

[1onemangang7]

3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

How long before the “Aaron Rogers plans to hold out until #12 becomes available”

He's number 8.  Turned down Joe Willy's permission to to wear 12.  Classy. 

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Rodgers puts the Jets right there with Miami and the Bills. Any of the three teams can win the division. 

 

It's gonna be a dogfight. The path for the Bills isn't easy. 

 

Some might think the Bills don't even have the best QB in the division. Tua is a winner and Rodgers is a Super Bowl winner and multiple MVP winner. Allen has nice regular season wins. 

Yeah, i guess it's natural for fans to throw shade on the rivals.  They'll definitely question Allen again sooner or later without making the run game better by Thursday.  

[HappyDays]

I'm totally on the fence about how this move makes me feel. I could see it making the Jets a really scary Super Bowl caliber team. I could also see it crashing and burning and leading to a total house cleaning at the end of the season. And anything in between.

[newcam2012]

6 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

He's number 8.  Turned down Joe Willy's permission to to wear 12.  Classy. 

Yeah, i guess it's natural for fans to throw shade on the rivals.  They'll definitely question Allen again sooner or later without making the run game better by Thursday.  

I'll still take Allen over anyone but Mahomes and Burrow. 

 

Point being Allen hasn't made a Super Bowl appearance or hoisted a Lombardi Trophy. Obviously, it's not all on him. However, modern day football is all about the rings. As a result, the negativity will drift towards him rightly or wrongly so.