That's No Moon Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: DE Robert Quinn could be a sneaky good addition. 32, only had 1 sack last year....but 18.5 the year before. Playing opposite Von in a rotation maybe we could get 8-12 sacks from him Vons not going to be on the field until Thanksgiving at the earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 What about Leonard Fournette, provided he's in shape? 28 years old, fast, elite runner and receiver in his prime. He's already earning $2m guaranteed, so maybe he'd sign for $3m, given his age. Big guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Is the RT Jerome Elumenore better than Quessenberry or Spencer Brown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Im not so worried about cap space.....after the McKenzie update, the Bills are smack dab in the middle of the NFL with $10 million cap space counting "all" and $17million for "top 51". Beane could still sign a couple useful free agents: Bobby Wagner? Dalton Schultze? Zeke? There are several contracts that could possibly be restructured: Dawkins, Knox, White ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: Is the RT Jerome Elumenore better than Quessenberry or Spencer Brown? He's better than both combined. Probably cost 2/10M. Elumenore's 2022 pff was 75. Spencer's was 51. And before everyone freaks out, yes I'm just using pff as a frame of reference, not some guaranteed accurate model. Update....re-signed today with the Raiders. Edited March 17, 2023 by LABILLBACKER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: He's better than both combined. Probably cost 2/10M. Elumenore's 2022 pff was 75. Spencer's was 51. And before everyone freaks out, yes I'm just using pff as a frame of reference, not some guaranteed accurate model. I saw that in PFF's rating. And the name kind of rang a bell. But am not sure if he's as good as that rating. Looks to be a Nigerian Londoner, came to the US at 13 and played hs football. Has only last season as a starter. Seems interesting, I wonder if the Raiders are trying to bring him back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 16 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Tranquil has the tackle from the Raiders been signed yet? Drue Tranquil signed with KC i just read 9 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: Sign Seumalo and Wagner, trade for Jeudy. Read that Jeudy is not up for trade , but that would be awesome for Bills to get him IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: DE Robert Quinn could be a sneaky good addition. 32, only had 1 sack last year....but 18.5 the year before. Playing opposite Von in a rotation maybe we could get 8-12 sacks from him That's interesting.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 What is Beane waiting for to grab one of these targeted FA? He loses Williams to the Saints and Kendrick to the Chargers. It’s like he’s low balling these FAs and expecting them to cave. Let’s go and bring in some talent. The draft is not the way to replace Edmunds or get a big time back. Is it me or does this guy seem like he spending his own money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 We did not get better this FA period. Very disappointing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Vons not going to be on the field until Thanksgiving at the earliest. That's not true. He had a partial tear repair, not a full AC reconstruction. He might not be ready for the start of the season, but Beane himself has said he expects to have him most of the year. Edited March 17, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: What is Beane waiting for to grab one of these targeted FA? He loses Williams to the Saints and Kendrick to the Chargers. It’s like he’s low balling these FAs and expecting them to cave. Let’s go and bring in some talent. The draft is not the way to replace Edmunds or get a big time back. Is it me or does this guy seem like he spending his own money. Little too late now, most of the better targets are gone while we signed 2 no name projects. Should have signed Williams at 4m per. Vander ech and David were good deals at LB too. Not sure what is going on with Beane, but it certainly feels like we are further separating ourselves from the better teams solely because of Beanes drafting and FA acquisitions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Cole Beasley WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Little too late now, most of the better targets are gone while we signed 2 no name projects. Should have signed Williams at 4m per. Vander ech and David were good deals at LB too. Not sure what is going on with Beane, but it certainly feels like we are further separating ourselves from the better teams solely because of Beanes drafting and FA acquisitions I hate to criticize Beane prematurely because he could still bring in good players but it seems like he’s not being aggressive enough. We’re chasing these teams and we’ve got significant holes. What did he free up all that cap space for? Hardy is nice player but he’s had serious injuries. The guard from the Cowboys is a good add but Poyer was here and keeping him is great but won’t make us better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 18 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Zeke...🤮 right. terrible, terrible, terrible idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said: We did not get better this FA period. Very disappointing Do you really need to be told a free agency is not over yet? 45 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: I hate to criticize Beane prematurely because he could still bring in good players but it seems like he’s not being aggressive enough. We’re chasing these teams and we’ve got significant holes. What did he free up all that cap space for? Hardy is nice player but he’s had serious injuries. The guard from the Cowboys is a good add but Poyer was here and keeping him is great but won’t make us better. It’s pretty obvious that the GM is waiting for prices on players to go down We have money now a little bit of money, but we still have money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 18 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Zeke...🤮 I don't want nothing from Dallas especial their sloppy seconds !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I have always been a big proponent of whenever you’re looking for under the radar signings you go to teams that have a position of strength and look at their back ups That’s why I like McGovern We did this several years back at tight end, and it worked out pretty well for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, T master said: I don't want nothing from Dallas especial their sloppy seconds !! I guess we better give Connor McGovern back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2023-bobby-wagner-adam-thielen-headline-top-remaining-players-available-at-each-position/ I'd love to see Bobby Wagner and Isaac Seumalo signed and a trade for Jeudy. Honestly, if we did that, I could give a crap about who they take in the draft. I think all of them are signable with a little magic. Wagner would let us take a chance on a later round MLB, Jeudy would put an end to the need at WR, and Seumalo can play both guards and Center. If we pulled that off, we could honestly go after that RB in the first round and I wouldn't even blink. This offense would be absolutely terrifying. Our defense wouldn't skip a beat, and setup nice for the future. Draft a Safety to prepare for the departure of Hyde/Poyer maybe. Next season, then we can figure out the Ed Oliver and MLB future plans. Edited March 17, 2023 by Virgil 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Virgil said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2023-bobby-wagner-adam-thielen-headline-top-remaining-players-available-at-each-position/ I'd love to see Bobby Wagner and Isaac Seumalo signed and a trade for Jeudy. Honestly, if we did that, I could give a crap about who they take in the draft. I think all of them are signable with a little magic. Wagner would let us take a chance on a later round MLB, Jeudy would put an end to the need at WR, and Seumalo can play both guards and Center. If we pulled that off, we could honestly go after that RB in the first round and I wouldn't even blink. This offense would be absolutely terrifying. Our defense wouldn't skip a beat, and setup nice for the future. Draft a Safety to prepare for the departure of Hyde/Poyer maybe. Next season, then we can figure out the Ed Oliver and MLB future plans. If it sounds too good to be true..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Wagner suitors seem to be drying up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Virgil said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2023-bobby-wagner-adam-thielen-headline-top-remaining-players-available-at-each-position/ I'd love to see Bobby Wagner and Isaac Seumalo signed and a trade for Jeudy. Honestly, if we did that, I could give a crap about who they take in the draft. I think all of them are signable with a little magic. Wagner would let us take a chance on a later round MLB, Jeudy would put an end to the need at WR, and Seumalo can play both guards and Center. If we pulled that off, we could honestly go after that RB in the first round and I wouldn't even blink. This offense would be absolutely terrifying. Our defense wouldn't skip a beat, and setup nice for the future. Draft a Safety to prepare for the departure of Hyde/Poyer maybe. Next season, then we can figure out the Ed Oliver and MLB future plans. Yes, that sounds terrific. I floated a similar idea minus Wagner yesterday. @NewEra legitimately pointed out that Seumalo is probably taking the Falcons' contract with Chris Lindstrom as a marker for the kind of contract he is looking for. Anything remotely close to that is prohibitive for the Bills. I'd still take Wagner and Jeudy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Do you really need to be told a free agency is not over yet? It’s pretty obvious that the GM is waiting for prices on players to go down We have money now a little bit of money, but we still have money Let’s hope we don’t get left with the players that won’t make a difference. I think Beane has gotten us to the point of being nationally relevant, secured the new stadium and the pressure to make bold moves is off. Rather than make a splashy,cap heavy move he’s content to wait for a deal to fall in his lap. I’m not optimistic about this approach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Eastport bills said: Let’s hope we don’t get left with the players that won’t make a difference. I think Beane has gotten us to the point of being nationally relevant, secured the new stadium and the pressure to make bold moves is off. Rather than make a splashy,cap heavy move he’s content to wait for a deal to fall in his lap. I’m not optimistic about this approach. There still looks to be a couple of veteran wide receivers they could help us. Adam Thielen comes to mind wants to play on a contender. Let’s pair Thielen and digs up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: There still looks to be a couple of veteran wide receivers they could help us. Adam Thielen comes to mind wants to play on a contender. Let’s pair Thielen and digs up again. Sounds good, he’s got something left in the tank. How about Bush or Wagner to ease the concerns about the loss of Edmunds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Virgil said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2023-bobby-wagner-adam-thielen-headline-top-remaining-players-available-at-each-position/ I'd love to see Bobby Wagner and Isaac Seumalo signed and a trade for Jeudy. Honestly, if we did that, I could give a crap about who they take in the draft. I think all of them are signable with a little magic. Wagner would let us take a chance on a later round MLB, Jeudy would put an end to the need at WR, and Seumalo can play both guards and Center. If we pulled that off, we could honestly go after that RB in the first round and I wouldn't even blink. This offense would be absolutely terrifying. Our defense wouldn't skip a beat, and setup nice for the future. Draft a Safety to prepare for the departure of Hyde/Poyer maybe. Next season, then we can figure out the Ed Oliver and MLB future plans. I'm more on the Jeudy trade than I was in the past. Would much rather have Jeudy than Hopkins or OBJ. Nothing more than #27, and would offer less. WR at #27 won't be better. Hoping Beane trades back at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Pounding the table for DE Robert Quinn. 32, can likely be had cheap. Only 1 sack last season….but 18.5 sacks in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: That's not true. He had a partial tear repair, not a full AC reconstruction. He might not be ready for the start of the season, but Beane himself has said he expects to have him most of the year. We will see. People wanted to argue with me about Tre last year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Virgil said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2023-bobby-wagner-adam-thielen-headline-top-remaining-players-available-at-each-position/ I'd love to see Bobby Wagner and Isaac Seumalo signed and a trade for Jeudy. Honestly, if we did that, I could give a crap about who they take in the draft. I think all of them are signable with a little magic. Wagner would let us take a chance on a later round MLB, Jeudy would put an end to the need at WR, and Seumalo can play both guards and Center. If we pulled that off, we could honestly go after that RB in the first round and I wouldn't even blink. This offense would be absolutely terrifying. Our defense wouldn't skip a beat, and setup nice for the future. Draft a Safety to prepare for the departure of Hyde/Poyer maybe. Next season, then we can figure out the Ed Oliver and MLB future plans. Sounds good to me, and I agree, but alas our next signing will probably be Taiwan Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: We will see. People wanted to argue with me about Tre last year too. Yeah, except Tre had a full AC tear and reconstruction. And at no point did Beane say he expected to have him most of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Isaiah Wynn and the other, better Conner McGovern are both still available and would be upgrades, if just average. But that's all it takes to be an upgrade on our OL. Just be average. I don't see any other OL left in FA that I'd want to take up a roster spot or cap space. Unfortunately, we're stuck with the lesser McGovern for a while unless we were smart enough to give an easy out before his contract runs out. He's totally incompetent as a run blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 43 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Isaiah Wynn and the other, better Conner McGovern are both still available and would be upgrades, if just average. But that's all it takes to be an upgrade on our OL. Just be average. I don't see any other OL left in FA that I'd want to take up a roster spot or cap space. Unfortunately, we're stuck with the lesser McGovern for a while unless we were smart enough to give an easy out before his contract runs out. He's totally incompetent as a run blocker. I’m curious what your evaluation is that as to why you think we got the lesser McGovern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/17/2023 at 11:49 AM, finn said: What about Leonard Fournette, provided he's in shape? 28 years old, fast, elite runner and receiver in his prime. He's already earning $2m guaranteed, so maybe he'd sign for $3m, given his age. Big guy. RBs in their prime don't average 3.5 YPC. Singletary averaged 4.6 YPC and out rushed Fournette by 150 yards despite having 177 carries versus 189 for Fournette. And Singletary had 5 Rushing TDs vs 3 for Fournette. Total TDs for both were equal at 6. Singletary had a higher percentage of runs for a 1st down too. Fournette had more receiving yards but also had twice as many receptions than Singletary. It would appear the Bucs used short passing game as extension of their woeful running game. With all that said Singletary still averaged 5.1 yards per touch vs 4.5 for Fournette. My guess is OBD would bring Motor back before signing Fournette. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 Poona Ford signs! Dalton Risner is still out there... that would make our O line depth and starting best we can be at this point. Also Leonard Floyd still not signed somehow. But don't know how we can pay him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, GoBills! said: Poona Ford signs! Dalton Risner is still out there... that would make our O line depth and starting best we can be at this point. Also Leonard Floyd still not signed somehow. But don't know how we can pay him. I think we’re probably done at guard Let’s get some pass, rush, help 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 3/17/2023 at 12:57 AM, LeGOATski said: How would Leonard Floyd fit, isn't he a 3-4 OLB? See he fits 😉 Go Bills! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, GoBills! said: See he fits 😉 Go Bills! He fits into the jersey... Still interested to see how they use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, LeGOATski said: He fits into the jersey... Still interested to see how they use him. IMO, they will use him to prevent the opponent from gaining yards and scoring points 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 15 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: IMO, they will use him to prevent the opponent from gaining yards and scoring points 🤷♂️ That's the goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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