Tough Decisions Ahead for Beane!!!

[CEN-CAL17]

Plain and simple McDermott and this staff has lost a huge percentage of the fan base. 
 

Beane and this organization will be snake oil salesman if there are not major changes. Josh Allen is to good of a talent to rely on the crap this team is running offensively.

 

That said there are way more qualified OCs on the street that can step in day one. But I think McDermott should go as well. Love McDermott but I think it’s offense this team needs. 
 

AFCE is not guaranteed past this year. Can anyone honestly say this is the team to beat next year in the AFCE? The Oline needs rebuilding. Morse is on his final leg, Dawkins is suspect at LT.

 

The defense is bad, Frazier needs to go. But it’s the scheme. It doesn’t work. In the snow, you heard Romo, it doesn’t work. Dline is weak next year, and we are all praying on Von, and who Oliver?

 

It’s time to just cut ties and see what happens. If it’s not this year I guarantee it will be next year, so why wait.

 

This is not the staff that will win the organization a championship. Fans aren’t buying it anymore.

 

Good luck Beane…. If it’s the same staff, it’s gonna be a rough year next year.

[zevo]

Doesn’t beane answer to mcd?

[CEN-CAL17]

3 minutes ago, zevo said:

Doesn’t beane answer to mcd?

Is that a real question? Or does it just seem that way. Beane is the GM….

 

 

[zevo]

Just now, CEN-CAL17 said:

Is that a real question? Or does it just seem that way. Beane is the GM….

 

 

Mcd was hired first. From what I understand it is McDs show

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Plain and simple McDermott and this staff has lost a huge percentage of the fan base. 
 

Beane and this organization will be snake oil salesman if there are not major changes. Josh Allen is to good of a talent to rely on the crap this team is running offensively.

 

That said there are way more qualified OCs on the street that can step in day one. But I think McDermott should go as well. Love McDermott but I think it’s offense this team needs. 
 

AFCE is not guaranteed past this year. Can anyone honestly say this is the team to beat next year in the AFCE? The Oline needs rebuilding. Morse is on his final leg, Dawkins is suspect at LT.

 

The defense is bad, Frazier needs to go. But it’s the scheme. It doesn’t work. In the snow, you heard Romo, it doesn’t work. Dline is weak next year, and we are all praying on Von, and who Oliver?

 

It’s time to just cut ties and see what happens. If it’s not this year I guarantee it will be next year, so why wait.

 

This is not the staff that will win the organization a championship. Fans aren’t buying it anymore.

 

Good luck Beane…. If it’s the same staff, it’s gonna be a rough year next year.

McD got Beane hired, not the other way around.

 

McD is the guy in charge.

[Shortchaz]

But he’s a nice guy 

[streetkings01]

McDermott is the one that needs to take a long hard look at his staff and make some easy decisions. Get a new OC and DC!

[CEN-CAL17]

Just now, zevo said:

Mcd was hired first. From what I understand it is McDs show

Lord help us! I’m still assuming Beane is in charge. If not this team is in worse shape than I thought. But I’m pretty McD says he’s answers to Beane

[schoolhouserock]

8 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Plain and simple McDermott and this staff has lost a huge percentage of the fan base. 
 

Beane and this organization will be snake oil salesman if there are not major changes. Josh Allen is to good of a talent to rely on the crap this team is running offensively.

 

That said there are way more qualified OCs on the street that can step in day one. But I think McDermott should go as well. Love McDermott but I think it’s offense this team needs. 
 

AFCE is not guaranteed past this year. Can anyone honestly say this is the team to beat next year in the AFCE? The Oline needs rebuilding. Morse is on his final leg, Dawkins is suspect at LT.

 

The defense is bad, Frazier needs to go. But it’s the scheme. It doesn’t work. In the snow, you heard Romo, it doesn’t work. Dline is weak next year, and we are all praying on Von, and who Oliver?

 

It’s time to just cut ties and see what happens. If it’s not this year I guarantee it will be next year, so why wait.

 

This is not the staff that will win the organization a championship. Fans aren’t buying it anymore.

 

Good luck Beane…. If it’s the same staff, it’s gonna be a rough year next year.

This staff has lost a huge percentage of fans for the next few hours… maybe a few days.

[Billever76]

Bean has to fire the entire staff to save his behind....he has assembled a highly overpriced defense that can't produce and neglected the oline......he bought into McDermott and he must now fire him or pegula needs to fire the entire staff and offer the brinks truck to PROVEN HC

Edited January 22, 2023 by Billever76

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, schoolhouserock said:

This staff has lost a huge percentage of fans for the next few hours… maybe a few days.

This staff has lost a loud minority on the internet for at least a few days maybe a week?

[pigpen65]

Roster wise there aren't really any difficult decisions. The Miller contact has them pretty cap ***** 

[CEN-CAL17]

Just now, Billever76 said:

Bean has to fire the entire staff to save his behind....he has assembled a highly overpriced defense that can't produce and neglected the oline......he brought in McDermott and he must now fire him or pegula needs to fire the entire staff and offer the brinks truck to PROVEN HC

Exactly… the feel good story is over. Fans see that this isn’t the group of coaches that will take things beyond the first round of the playoffs. It’s an offensive league that needs a solid defense. 
 

The Bills have potentially the best QB and a top 5 WR, with a bottom 10 OL, a decent RB being ran by Dorsey. It’s not gonna work.

 

The defense needs even more work.

[Thrivefourfive]

Hopefully Dorsey gets hired to do something else, somewhere else. FRAZIER HAS TO GO. That has to happen, no matter what. Has to happen like tomorrow morning. The players.. I don’t even know what to say. Edmunds replacement needs to be a priority level one. The rest of those sorry excuses for NFL bodies in Bills uniforms are straight up pussies. Pretty much all of them. They got absolutely punked and outworked by that other team in a way I’m astonished by. 

[nucci]

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

McD got Beane hired, not the other way around.

 

McD is the guy in charge.

So McDermott can't be fired?

[Big Blitz]

He’s made a ton of wrong ones and failed to act where action was needed since the 2021 off season.  
 

The Oline is patchwork.  
 

The RB position isn’t important 

 

No desperation to compliment Diggs has the rest of the league figures out you need 2 studs minimum. 
 

The D line is God awful.  I love Rousseau but something is wrong.  

 

Selecting Basham after Rousseau is so laughably embarrassing
 

You gave $160 million to a 33 year old DE - great.  I’m glad we have him.  He’s 33.  
 

You added Hines to have one great game vs New England.  Cool.  
 

CMC is leading the 49ers to the SB.  

[CEN-CAL17]

1 minute ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Hopefully Dorsey gets hired to do something else, somewhere else. FRAZIER HAS TO GO. That has to happen, no matter what. Has to happen like tomorrow morning. The players.. I don’t even know what to say. Edmunds replacement needs to be a priority level one. The rest of those sorry excuses for NFL bodies in Bills uniforms are straight up pussies. Pretty much all of them. They got absolutely punked and outworked by that other team in a way I’m astonished by. 

I don’t see McDermott firing anyone. Even if Frazier goes. It’s gonna be the same scheme. The scheme needs to go. Same on offense…. That being the case why keep McDermott?

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, nucci said:

So McDermott can't be fired?

Only by Terry and Kim. Doubt they fire them.

[entropyrules]

while I am not normally a fan of tearing things completely down I hope they think about a two year (maybe three year) revitilization to this team. With the exception of Allen, Shakir , Cook, Elam, Taron Johnson, Knox, Bass and Milano (maybe Rouseau but not really impressed by his game), everyone of the players on this team should be expendendable.

 

Not everyone will go and I know its not feasible to get rid of more than maybe six to eight players but except for those I listed above I don't think the team going forward in two years will be any worse off if they loose anyone else on this current roster.

 

I think they should try to get out of cap hell by trading as many players and aging vets as they can inlcuding Poyer, Hyde, Von Miller, T White - not sure with their salaries anyone will take them but maybe Beane can work some salary retention magic. Then in this years draft they need to load up on O line men and wide receivers because  they typically take longer to develop, Allen needs to stay in one piece and the Bills should be eyeing 2025 or 2026 for a SB run. Of course they'll draft some D players but if the choice at their draft spot is O or D being comparable take the O guy.

 

Finally the coaching needs to change but given how the org works it will take a lot of persuading to get rid of McD, Dorsey or Fraiser. I wish they coudl strike magic with coordinators like Cinci has. 

[Buffalo03]

19 minutes ago, zevo said:

Mcd was hired first. From what I understand it is McDs show

So our head coach can fire our GM? I don't think so 😂

[billsfan714]

Plenty of criticism to go around.    McD seems to get outclassed in the playoffs, cant make it past divisional round and our window was last year with Daboll as the OC but that was pissed away by the worst 13 seconds of coaching in NFL history.    Leslie's bend but dont break doesnt work against the better teams when it counts.  Beane has traded away multiple picks in his tenure, has overpayed for some questionable talent and has crapped the bed especially in the 2nd round.  He also has us right at the cap limit with numerous holes to fill next year. 

[Thrivefourfive]

9 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

I don’t see McDermott firing anyone. Even if Frazier goes. It’s gonna be the same scheme. The scheme needs to go. Same on offense…. That being the case why keep McDermott?

Unless McDermott wants to get himself fired. He’s a head coach, not the defensive coordinator. As a HC he need to do what’s best for the team, not keep his crap defensive in place, unaltered. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

I would be shocked if somehow McD was fired after what the team fought through and going 13-3.

[CEN-CAL17]

I can’t wait to hear anyone on this board to say…. This staff has what it takes.

 

Id like to hear their explanation.

 

JA is hitting his prime years, we gotta figure something out. And this staff isn’t the answer. It’s just not.

[PatsFanNH]

28 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Plain and simple McDermott and this staff has lost a huge percentage of the fan base. 
 

Beane and this organization will be snake oil salesman if there are not major changes. Josh Allen is to good of a talent to rely on the crap this team is running offensively.

 

That said there are way more qualified OCs on the street that can step in day one. But I think McDermott should go as well. Love McDermott but I think it’s offense this team needs. 
 

AFCE is not guaranteed past this year. Can anyone honestly say this is the team to beat next year in the AFCE? The Oline needs rebuilding. Morse is on his final leg, Dawkins is suspect at LT.

 

The defense is bad, Frazier needs to go. But it’s the scheme. It doesn’t work. In the snow, you heard Romo, it doesn’t work. Dline is weak next year, and we are all praying on Von, and who Oliver?

 

It’s time to just cut ties and see what happens. If it’s not this year I guarantee it will be next year, so why wait.

 

This is not the staff that will win the organization a championship. Fans aren’t buying it anymore.

 

Good luck Beane…. If it’s the same staff, it’s gonna be a rough year next year.

Huh? The AFCE in question?

 

Jets— This team can’t pick a good QB if one bit them in the butt! 
 

Phins — Tua is 1 concussion away from retirement and their D is meh at best.

 

Pats — Have a good D but an O that is dis functional on its best days..

 

The East shouldn’t be an issue next year, and again the Bills issue is Mahomes and Burrows in the same conference. It’s like Brady, Manning, and Big Ben in the past.. right now the Bills playing the role of Big Ben.. 

[CEN-CAL17]

4 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

I would be shocked if somehow McD was fired after what the team fought through and going 13-3.

You’re probably right. But if that’s the case this team will wait til JA is 30 and then decide to change…. Meanwhile never making it out of the division round with one of the best QB talents in the league.  Until then JA will continue to fight and fans will pray JA can pull something out his butt like we always do.

 

Get the dude an offense, the players around him and the coach to take it where it should be!

[Dr.Sack]

Dude needs to start drafting future HoF players. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

Just now, CEN-CAL17 said:

You’re probably right. But if that’s the case this team will wait til JA is 30 and then decide to change…. Meanwhile never making it out of the division round with one of the best QB talents in the league.  Until then JA will continue to fight and fans will pray JA can pull something out his butt like we always do.

 

Get the dude an offense, the players around him and the coach to take it where it should be!

Funny thing is, first thing Beane said in his end of year presser last year is that we need to improve the OL.  If that’s the case, who was evaluating our OL personnel, bc that was the worst performing unit of this team and a big reason why we only scored 10

points today.

[CEN-CAL17]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Huh? The AFCE in question?

 

Jets— This team can’t pick a good QB if one bit them in the butt! 
 

Phins — Tua is 1 concussion away from retirement and their D is meh at best.

 

Pats — Have a good D but an O that is dis functional on its best days..

 

The East shouldn’t be an issue next year, and again the Bills issue is Mahomes and Burrows in the same conference. It’s like Brady, Manning, and Big Ben in the past.. right now the Bills playing the role of Big Ben.. 

Bills damn near lost to Miami 3x this year with decent QB play. We will see who plays QB next year, cause that position may get even better.

 

Jets beat us this year, and they are a QB away from being really good. I see them being better next year for sure.

 

Pats…. Meh, we will see.

 

But Buffalo ain’t winning 13 games next year.

[HOUSE]

There will be changes, stay tuned 

[Man with No Name]

right now, everybody on defense seems replacement level. we can't give a huge contract to anybody. 

 

both our coordinators need to go, but it's not gonna happen. i don't know what to say. maybe next year will be better if we are lucky enough to have every player complete the year with perfect health.  

[Thrivefourfive]

Just to be clear, I’d keep McDermott. I’m not a fan of firing 13-3 guys. But his two coordinators are costing the organization success. I can’t blame Beane either, catastrophically at least. He’s made good picks and good FA moves over his tenure. But it’s falling apart now, because they didn’t develop DEs, WRs, MLB, OLine, DLine. They just don’t draft guys that come in an make impacts like these other teams do.. SF and KC and CIN. They draft softie “I’m happy to be in the NFL” types. Maybe get rid of some of those “staff” guys on the sidelines with long blond hair and backwards caps. They all seem to be about 5’8” and overly excited on game day. Is Jim Brown available to stand on the sideline and just stare?
 

Look in the mirror Beane and McDermott. Cut ties with the anchors holding the Bills back, and build forward with a five year window in mind. The Bills had their chances last year and this (until Thanksgiving), and in typical fashion they defied the odds and avoided a Championship, as per usual. 

[Lionel Hutz]

It seems like McDermott sets the team up not to lose rather playing to win. 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Bills damn near lost to Miami 3x this year with decent QB play. We will see who plays QB next year, cause that position may get even better.

 

Jets beat us this year, and they are a QB away from being really good. I see them being better next year for sure.

 

Pats…. Meh, we will see.

 

But Buffalo ain’t winning 13 games next year.

Sorry, Jets do Jet things! This year they had a great scary D.. next year they will improve the O somewhat but the D will regress.. 

 

Dolphins — have 2 great WR and an OK QB. They need make a decision soon on Tua and Waddle will need get paid in a couple years… they still need to improve their D.

 

Pats — we will see. They were horrid on O with a terrible O coordinator. If Bill O Brian is the OC they will at least find out if Jones is good or not.  Scary how the best O player was the RB. 
 

I just don’t see it, also Lamar Jackson is a running QB who can’t throw. He goes to the Jets whose O line stinks he be injured in game 2. 

[Coach Tuesday]

They have to focus their energies on finding a new LT which will solve two problems when you slide Dawkins to LG.  Add a bunch of speed to the offense and let ‘er rip.  Trade Oliver and maybe Davis in the service of getting a new LT. Let Poyer walk.  Edmunds is the hardest call.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

28 minutes ago, nucci said:

So McDermott can't be fired?

Not by Beane. That is what most people think. It would take Pegula himself to do it.

[CEN-CAL17]

1 minute ago, Man with No Name said:

right now, everybody on defense seems replacement level. we can't give a huge contract to anybody. 

 

both our coordinators need to go, but it's not gonna happen. i don't know what to say. maybe next year will be better if we are lucky enough to have every player complete the year with perfect health.  

Yes. That’s my point. If both need to go which many agree…. Why not just grab a new HC? 
 

What’s McD gonna do? Promote Washington from the DL cause he was the DC in Carolina and promote Mike Shula cause he was the OC In Carolina?

 

Cause that’s where this team is headed. And McD will tell them to stick to their respective playbooks as much as possible for continuity.

 

Thats the recipe for success? 

[buffblue]

41 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

But he’s a nice guy 

I feel like that's the rationale for not firing Frazier. We don't want to hurt his feelings now, do we?

[Billsflyer12]

Beane or McD, I don’t care who but they have:

 

1). Drafted 4 DLmen in the top 60 picks and all at best haven’t lived up to their draft spot, mostly just bad.

2). Have not drafted a single OL in first 2 rounds the last 3 drafts.  The one they did was 2019 Cody Ford, ugh.  Think maybe OL better use Of Boogie Basham pick?

3). Have not drafted a single WR in 1st 3 rounds of draft.

4). 2021 draft ?  Oofffff!

 

This ALL starts at top with both Beane and Sean.  Beane likely overrated, and McDermott is the Doug Collins of NFL coaches.

Edited January 23, 2023 by Billsflyer12

[Nitro]

Every off season there are changes.  This was a team poised to go win a Super Bowl.  Purge will include name players but you have to reload quickly with younger guys if you want to make a championship run.