We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5

[Toledo Bill]

6 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think he's shot, man. 

Can’t be effective with one arm.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Airseven said:

I’m sure they are indeed aware of facts. The question is whether they’re capable of doing anything about it.

I still don’t get how that’s a fact lol…cincy can’t run the football and their secondary is pretty bad.  They’ve got one great run stuffer and great wrs.  We also have much better special teams.   ‘More complete team’ goes to buffalo easily…’better team’ is a different kind of question though of course 

 

I don’t think there’s a more complete team in the league than the bills…maybe philly?

Edited January 22, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[EmotionallyUnstable]

The DT practice squad elevation was predictable and makes a ton of sense. I expect Ankou to be active.

 

Kingsly Jonathon will be inactive IMO. Not sure why they called him up, unless the plan to completely turn the DEs loose and give them more free reign to rush at-will and disregard rush lanes/run fits. 
 

Maybe they plan to do so and want fresh legs. 
 

just trying to make sense of this. 
 

Surprised by Brown, as I feel McKenzie/Beasley/shakir is a bit redundant and Smoke offers something else that none of those guys does….

 

Maybe that is calculated, and Dorsey doesn’t want to tempt Allen with that speed and unnecessarily pull his eyes and attention down field when he should be working the quick game.

 

who knows.

Edited January 22, 2023 by EmotionallyUnstable

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

27 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said:

As I said in the game thread - with Mahomes injured there's blood in the water now for the Bills and Bengals.  Tomorrow we'll see who wants it more.  Go Bills - the stage is set for you!!

Id say there was blood in the water before 😂. Chiefs are 1-5 against the bills and  bengals the last two years with the one win being influenced pretty heavily by the coin toss 

[Magox]

1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

The DT practice squad elevation was predictable and makes a ton of sense. I expect Bryant to be active.

 

Kingsly Jonathon will be inactive IMO. Not sure why they called him up, unless the plan to completely turn the DEs loose and give them more free reign to rush at-will and disregard rush lanes/run fits. 
 

Maybe they plan to do so and want fresh legs. 
 

just trying to make sense of this. 
 

Surprised by Brown, as I feel McKenzie/Beasley/shakir is a bit redundant and Smoke offers something else that none of those guys does….

 

Maybe that is calculated, and Dorsey doesn’t want to tempt Allen with that speed and unnecessarily pull his eyes and attention down field when he should be working the quick game.

 

who knows.

I think they don’t anticipate nearly as many down the field attempts as last week.   Cincinnati most likely will be looking to take the down the field options and hope that Allen presses for them.

[NewEra]

30 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think he's shot, man. 

Yeah could be.  He had such a solid start, sigh

[BuffaloBaumer]

Any update on Daquon?

[Airseven]

I’ve really liked both Ankou and Bryant and hope they stick down the line. I’d be excited to see either on the field tomorrow.

[YoloinOhio]

Maybe already mentioned but McD is the only defensive HC left in the playoffs 

 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

33 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

The DT practice squad elevation was predictable and makes a ton of sense. I expect Ankou to be active.

 

Kingsly Jonathon will be inactive IMO. Not sure why they called him up, unless the plan to completely turn the DEs loose and give them more free reign to rush at-will and disregard rush lanes/run fits. 
 

Maybe they plan to do so and want fresh legs. 
 

just trying to make sense of this. 
 

Surprised by Brown, as I feel McKenzie/Beasley/shakir is a bit redundant and Smoke offers something else that none of those guys does….

 

Maybe that is calculated, and Dorsey doesn’t want to tempt Allen with that speed and unnecessarily pull his eyes and attention down field when he should be working the quick game.

 

who knows.

 

[Warcodered]

 

[Mark92]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Yup, not sleeping tonight.  Definitely not sleeping.  

[Since1981]

39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Maybe already mentioned but McD is the only defensive HC left in the playoffs 

We will see. Maybe it’s the angle that gives us a unique advantage. However, I personally think O is more complex and important in 2023 NFL 

[Since1981]

43 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Maybe that is calculated, and Dorsey doesn’t want to tempt Allen with that speed and unnecessarily pull his eyes and attention down field when he should be working the quick game.

I agree. suspect Cinci is going to “dare” Josh to go deep and will leave 5-8 yds open. Brown is long ball, bengals want to temp Josh with the poison apple. 

[HurlyBurly51]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

As long as I don't have to watch AJE get pushed 8 yards beyond Joe. I still see Burrow staying within short to intermediate routes. Press coverage and make Joe hurry it.

Leslie doesn’t like to play press, unfortunately.

[Billschinatown]

59 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

I agree. suspect Cinci is going to “dare” Josh to go deep and will leave 5-8 yds open. Brown is long ball, bengals want to temp Josh with the poison apple. 

I mean…. There’s a decent chance if you play games with Josh he will throw a 40 yard bomb on you. Ask the patriots in the last playoff game. I don’t think focused Josh can be stopped. 

[YoloinOhio]

13 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

I mean…. There’s a decent chance if you play games with Josh he will throw a 40 yard bomb on you. Ask the patriots in the last playoff game. I don’t think focused Josh can be stopped. 

Esp if your “CB1” is Eli Crapple 

[Billschinatown]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Esp if your “CB1” is Eli Crapple 

I think he’s out right ? So it’s his back up. 
 

lol, doesn’t matter though. ***** em all up josh 

Edited January 22, 2023 by Billschinatown

[Brand J]

Bills are now 6 pt favorites. Don’t usually see lines move like this unless a QB is out. 

[HappyDays]

Just now, JayBaller10 said:

Bills are now 6 pt favorites. Don’t usually see lines move like this unless a QB is out. 

 

Three backup o-linemen playing for the first time together. Think Mahomes against the Bucs in the Super Bowl. At a certain point it's too much attrition to remain functional. Under normal circumstances it would probably be a pick-em game.

[GolfandBills]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Three backup o-linemen playing for the first time together. Think Mahomes against the Bucs in the Super Bowl. At a certain point it's too much attrition to remain functional. Under normal circumstances it would probably be a pick-em game.

They’ll be fine against our zero pass rush 

[wppete]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Three backup o-linemen playing for the first time together. Think Mahomes against the Bucs in the Super Bowl. At a certain point it's too much attrition to remain functional. Under normal circumstances it would probably be a pick-em game.

yeah and the 4th O-Lineman is a 4th Round Rookie. 

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

They’ll be fine against our zero pass rush 

 

I'll admit I am a little worried about this. I hate that I'm not 100% confident we can take advantage of it. But this will be the worst OL we've played all year because of the injuries. They'll be in front of our loud fans trying to gel for the first time playing as a unit, and I expect us to throw the kitchen sink at them in terms of pass rush packages to try and confuse them. An awful OL performance can single handedly sink a team's chances and Burrow may be athletic but he's not an escape artist.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Three backup o-linemen playing for the first time together. Think Mahomes against the Bucs in the Super Bowl. At a certain point it's too much attrition to remain functional. Under normal circumstances it would probably be a pick-em game.

 

 I think Burrow will try counter this by getting rid of the ball quickly. I hope they play press man with over the top help on Chase and Higgans. Make Boyd, Hurst & Mixon beat you.

 

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

5 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 I think Burrow will try counter this by getting rid of the ball quickly. I hope they play press man with over the top help on Chase and Higgans. Make Boyd, Hurst & Mixon beat you.

 

 

 

 

For sure Cinci will employ quick passing and determined running; I'm expecting a LOT of bending by Buffalo's defense, even in a winning effort. Frustrating yardage and 1st down conversions. The fans know the drill this season. 

 

As long as the offense shows up, we'll be fine.

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

If Kingsley Jonathan is active, I almost wonder if it’s more of a “do your job or we’ll find someone who can” message to the DE’s. 
Also, wonder if 5 DE’s might mean more Rousseau and/or Basham inside pass rushing, given the OL issues of Cincy and the fact they don’t run the ball well. 

 

Wait and see who is actually on the gameday active roster tomorrow.

Sometimes at the end of the season/playoffs they elevate a guy who has been a “good soldier” all season.  It’s like a $28k bonus.

 

I thought Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham and Lawson have been doing their jobs.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

For sure Cinci will employ quick passing and determined running; I'm expecting a LOT of bending by Buffalo's defense, even in a winning effort. Frustrating yardage and 1st down conversions. The fans know the drill this season. 

 

As long as the offense shows up, we'll be fine.

 

 They can try and run, but they haven't been good at it this year. Coming into this weekend they were pretty easily the worst rushing team left.

 

I agree, if Josh plays well we will win this game. I'm thinking a game like he had against Miami in the Saturday night game. 300 yards, 4 tds, some nice rushing yards and 1 turnover. It's been a month, so he's about due for a game like that.

 

 

 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Since1981 said:

I agree. suspect Cinci is going to “dare” Josh to go deep and will leave 5-8 yds open. Brown is long ball, bengals want to temp Josh with the poison apple. 

 

Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, and Shakir are all capable of going deep.  McKenzie and Shakir can scoot.  If they really want a guy to run a clearing route, they could have Hines run a wheel from the backfield or the slot, he can scoot too.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

40 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

They’ll be fine against our zero pass rush 

If they are fine they will be keeping extra blockers in which also helps us 

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Any update on Daquon?

 

Wouldn’t expect one.  He has a game status of “questionable” after Fri, he had an additional day to heal on Sat.

 

56 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

I think he’s out right ? So it’s his back up. 
 

lol, doesn’t matter though. ***** em all up josh 

 

Eli Apple practiced all week and has no game status - good to go.  Trey Flowers is listed as “doubtful”

[sven233]

3 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

The DT practice squad elevation was predictable and makes a ton of sense. I expect Bryant to be active.

 

Kingsly Jonathon will be inactive IMO. Not sure why they called him up, unless the plan to completely turn the DEs loose and give them more free reign to rush at-will and disregard rush lanes/run fits. 
 

Maybe they plan to do so and want fresh legs. 
 

just trying to make sense of this. 
 

Surprised by Brown, as I feel McKenzie/Beasley/shakir is a bit redundant and Smoke offers something else that none of those guys does….

 

Maybe that is calculated, and Dorsey doesn’t want to tempt Allen with that speed and unnecessarily pull his eyes and attention down field when he should be working the quick game.

 

who knows.

 

It's interesting for sure to not see Brown get the nod.  Maybe, this is their way of reigning Josh in just a bit.  Don't give him one of his vertical weapons and put more of the guys in that work the underneath stuff to force him to check it down once in a while.  We did see that Shakir, although not a burner, could get down the field a bit when they asked him to and with McKenzie back in the fold they feel OK about the speed they are putting on the field.

 

As for Kingsly, we have only seen him a little bit this season.  But, from what I remember, he did have a bunch of flash plays rushing the passer when he played, though.  I also remember him getting out of position which led to big plays the other way, though.  Guess we'll see.

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I still don’t get how that’s a fact lol…cincy can’t run the football and their secondary is pretty bad.  They’ve got one great run stuffer and great wrs.  We also have much better special teams.   ‘More complete team’ goes to buffalo easily…’better team’ is a different kind of question though of course 

 

I don’t think there’s a more complete team in the league than the bills…maybe philly?

I think the 49ers and the Eagles are the class of the league. Their defenses are really good and they both have multiple offensive weapons. I'm just not sold on QB Purdy. 

 

I don't think whoever comes out of the AFC will beat the NFC team. Sure would like to see the Bills representing the AFC regardless on what I think. 

[Solomon Grundy]

30 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

They can try and run, but they haven't been good at it this year.

They will definitely test the Bills early with Perine and Mixon. The key for the Bills is to get a lead where the Bengals have to pass the ball. 

[YoloinOhio]

We made it!

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I think the 49ers and the Eagles are the class of the league. Their defenses are really good and they both have multiple offensive weapons. I'm just not sold on QB Purdy. 

 

I don't think whoever comes out of the AFC will beat the NFC team. Sure would like to see the Bills representing the AFC regardless on what I think. 

I like the bills matchup with the nfc teams more than the chiefs (assuming mahomes isn’t seriously injured) but I wouldn’t disagree with people calling the nfc teams more ‘complete’.  
 

I don’t really trust purdy or hurts that much if their opponent is pretty successful stopping the run though.  Our run fits have been good most of the year.  If we get past cincy/kc I like our chances. 
 

the chiefs also absolutely dismantled the 49ers but that was back a ways towards the beginning of the season 

Edited January 22, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

9 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

They will definitely test the Bills early with Perine and Mixon. The key for the Bills is to get a lead where the Bengals have to pass the ball. 

 

 With what we have to contend with in the passing game, I would all but ignore the run. Go ahead and get your 4 yards a carry. Make them crawl down the field if they want a td. Lots of chances for mistakes especially with 3 reserve OL in the game.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 22, 2023 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS

[AlfaBill]

1 hour ago, GolfandBills said:

They’ll be fine against our zero pass rush 

I hope you’re wrong but frankly after the Miami game you might be right. Burrow will ply the short game looking deep on occasion. This might neutralize the pass rush. As long as the dl men stay committed we should be ok. 

[Breakout Squad]

1 hour ago, GolfandBills said:

They’ll be fine against our zero pass rush 

It does seem like we don’t get any pressure. It’s frustrating 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

16 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

I hope you’re wrong but frankly after the Miami game you might be right. Burrow will ply the short game looking deep on occasion. This might neutralize the pass rush. As long as the dl men stay committed we should be ok. 

Miami had armstead and Connor Williams in and kept in a good amount of extra blockers…cincy relies a lot more on one on one blocking.  Jonah Williams used to get left on an island a lot.  Not sure the Miami game compares 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

21 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

I hope you’re wrong but frankly after the Miami game you might be right. Burrow will ply the short game looking deep on occasion. This might neutralize the pass rush. As long as the dl men stay committed we should be ok. 

 

 If Cincy does indeed go to the the short passing game, the d-line needs to be more concerned about clogging up passing lanes and getting their hands up to tip some passes rather than going all out rushing the passer. Chances are you're not getting there on those quick throws anyways. It would be nice to get a tipped pass int or 2 in this game.