Cole Beasley signed to the 53.

[C.Biscuit97]

39 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

I don't know how you can watch this year and say that.  If he can just settle in a zone and convert 3rd and 5 he brings something to the table.

My man has 6 catches for 35 yards in 5 games after showing serious decline last year. I would rather have the upside player than the guy who doesn’t threaten the defense in the slightest. Agree to disagree. 

[ColoradoBills]

16 minutes ago, Flipnmi said:

This move is really puzzling to me. As others have said, Beasley could have been called up for any or all of the playoff games without any roster moves being required, so the McKenzie injury can't be the primary reason for the move.  Beas also stated when he resigned that this was where he really wanted to be and as such he could refuse any offer to go to another team's 53 to stay here.  He would get a pay bump to the vet minimum for the games where he was called up, so the only plausible scenario I can see is that another team tried to sign him to something above the vet min and the Bills decided to do him a solid and match the other offer.  That said, the idea of going to a new team and new system just before a playoff run also seems pretty remote, unless that team happened to be the Giants and the Daboll offense. This move also complicates what might be done to open a slot on the 53 for Crowder if and when he's ready to go, since Murray seemed to be the most obvious cut available. We'll likely never know, but there must be more to this move than we can see.

 

Not really.  Players are paid through the league for the playoffs.  Beasley stands to make $319k if the Bills win the SB and he is on the 

active roster.  I'm not sure, and can't find anywhere, what PS players get paid during the playoffs.  I think their regular weekly salary.

 

Just to add to the conversation, the SB winning team players will make about another $20M in total salary.

That does not come out of the salary cap.

[DrDawkinstein]

Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Bease, Smoke. Have Hines run the jet sweep/motions. See if we can find a spot for Crowder when he comes back. Lets Go!

[ddaryl]

It would be nice if he returns to form... because McKenzie DID NOT get it done

[Old Coot]

Beas was money on those underneath whip routes last year.  Hopefully he can do it in the playoffs.

[Flipnmi]

53 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Not really.  Players are paid through the league for the playoffs.  Beasley stands to make $319k if the Bills win the SB and he is on the 

active roster.  I'm not sure, and can't find anywhere, what PS players get paid during the playoffs.  I think their regular weekly salary.

 

Just to add to the conversation, the SB winning team players will make about another $20M in total salary.

That does not come out of the salary cap.

Just found this info:  To be eligible for the Superbowl bonus a player must satisfy one of the following: 

  -Must have been on the 53-man roster for the Super Bowl as well as the previous three games

  -Must have played in at least eight games for the team that season without being contracted to another team

  -Are injured veteran players with one year of tenure who were put on the injured list during the season

  -Are injured four-year veterans who went on the injured list in the preseason

 

Signing Beasley to the 53 this week satisfies the first criterion.   Perhaps that's the reason.

[TheBeaneBandit]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

My man has 6 catches for 35 yards in 5 games after showing serious decline last year. I would rather have the upside player than the guy who doesn’t threaten the defense in the slightest. Agree to disagree. 

The upside guy keeps getting blown up as a blocker on screens.

[Jerome007]

I thought that during the playoffs, teams could recall anyone from the PS at will, so I'm not sure I get the "legality" of this move. But hey, they know better. 

 

No offense, but I didn't even know the Bills had  offensive lineman Justin Murray. He thus made a regular pay each week? I'm sure it must really suck to be released just before the playoffs but at least he got paid,

[Bills Fan in MD]

42 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Bease, Smoke. Have Hines run the jet sweep/motions. See if we can find a spot for Crowder when he comes back. Lets Go!

Don't forget about OBJ.

 

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

I thought that during the playoffs, teams could recall anyone from the PS at will, so I'm not sure I get the "legality" of this move. But hey, they know better. 

 

No offense, but I didn't even know the Bills had  offensive lineman Justin Murray. He thus made a regular pay each week? I'm sure it must really suck to be released just before the playoffs but at least he got paid,

 

He will be eligible for 50% of the playoff bonus even if he isn't on the team for the playoffs.

@Flipnmiposted some of the criteria and I just found this from CBS (for 2023 playoffs).

 

There is a whole litany of different qualifications for playoff bonuses.  A lot more than I would have thought.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-playoff-bracket-projection-bills-top-eagles-in-super-bowl-lvii-as-we-predict-every-postseason-game/ 

[Matt_In_NH]

2 hours ago, SWATeam said:

I don't know how you can watch this year and say that.  If he can just settle in a zone and convert 3rd and 5 he brings something to the table.

The Bills lead the league in 3rd down conversion rate in 2022

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

I think you are more concerned since so far this year he has not shown much.

 

I hoped for more but despite drops including bad throws by Josh blamed on him Isaiah McKenzie he has played well at times.

42 receptions for 423 yards with 4 TD received and 1 TD running.  All of this for contract with a base salary of $1,750,000, a roster bonus of $375,000 and a workout bonus of $100,000.    He was active every day and as Coach McD says availability is important.  

 

Beasley has had 1 reception in 2 games and has not carried load McKenzie has.

Again I hope for more.

What you are saying is all true.

 

To say that McKenzie has done nothing for the Bills this season is foolish. The problem is that we all expected a lot of good things from McKenzie during this season. Just as we did with Davis.

 

McKenzie has just been too inconsistent, and while Beasley has played very little, there's a feeling that Beasley can become a more stable contributor.

It might be wishful thinking, but we have seen Beasly come up big for us before and he could very well do so again.

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

What you are saying is all true.

 

To say that McKenzie has done nothing for the Bills this season is foolish. The problem is that we all expected a lot of good things from McKenzie during this season. Just as we did with Davis.

 

McKenzie has just been too inconsistent, and while Beasley has played very little, there's a feeling that Beasley can become a more stable contributor.

It might be wishful thinking, but we have seen Beasly come up big for us before and he could very well do so again.

 

This also may be the game where Shakir gets a lot more snaps than his typical 20-25%.

I could see him and Cole splitting time this Sunday.

[Beck Water]

55 minutes ago, Flipnmi said:

Just found this info:  To be eligible for the Superbowl bonus a player must satisfy one of the following: 

  -Must have been on the 53-man roster for the Super Bowl as well as the previous three games

  -Must have played in at least eight games for the team that season without being contracted to another team

  -Are injured veteran players with one year of tenure who were put on the injured list during the season

  -Are injured four-year veterans who went on the injured list in the preseason

 

Signing Beasley to the 53 this week satisfies the first criterion.   Perhaps that's the reason.

 

Interesting, though that would appear to omit John Brown then

Which would kinda suck for him

 

But one step at a time, we gotta get there first

 

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

This also may be the game where Shakir gets a lot more snaps than his typical 20-25%.

I could see him and Cole splitting time this Sunday.

 

I think you can bank on it, if McKenzie is out.  The previous game he was out Shakir got 70%

We may see more Beasley but I don’t think it will be his previous 60-70% of the snaps from 2021

Edited January 12, 2023 by Beck Water

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Interesting, though that would appear to omit John Brown then

Which would kinda suck for him

 

But one step at a time, we gotta get there first

 

PS guys elevated are considered on the main roster for that game.  I can't find any specifics as to PS playoff call-ups.

If Smoke gets called up every game, I still don't know how that works pay wise.

 

The rest of the PS gets their normal weekly pay.

[Beck Water]

Just now, ColoradoBills said:

 

PS guys elevated are considered on the main roster for that game.  I can't find any specifics as to PS playoff call-ups.

If Smoke gets called up every game, I still don't know how that works pay wise.

 

The rest of the PS gets their normal weekly pay.

 

But the thing you are quoting said “on the 53 man roster”.  PS callups are part of a gameday 55 man roster

 

Well, I think the Bills are a class organization so hopefully they’ll work that out

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

I think you can bank on it, if McKenzie is out.  The previous game he was out Shakir got 70%

We may see more Beasley but I don’t think it will be his previous 60-70% of the snaps from 2021

 

Wouldn't it be nice for Shakir to have his "break-out" game!

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

But the thing you are quoting said “on the 53 man roster”.  PS callups are part of a gameday 55 man roster

 

Well, I think the Bills are a class organization so hopefully they’ll work that out

 

PS guys on the gameday roster get credited as if they are on the main roster.  I guess I'm mixing some terms up, but the

bottom line is they are on the "main team" for that game.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

47 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

The upside guy keeps getting blown up as a blocker on screens.

You must mean Shakir… dude can’t block a drafty hole in the wall

[akcash]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Diggs and Brown out wide.

Davis and Beasley in slot.
 

That's what I'm running in 4WR Sets.

Rotate Shakir in any of the spots 

Put Knox at Running back

[DaggersEOD]

4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I like to reward production, personally

You have a lot of free time to worry about the nuances of moves at the bottom of the roster. 

[BigAl2526]

The Bills give up some big play potential with McKenzie out of the game day lineup, but, overall, he's been a disappointment this season, and like some other Bills has had too many drops.  Beasley doesn't give you much big play potential, but historically he's shown reliable hands, and he's been a chain mover throughout his tenure on the Bills.  It's pretty obvious that he was elevated as a response to McKenzie's injury, and the fact that they play the same base position is a primary factor in the decision to sign him to the 53 man roster.   

[27yanks]

Better than drops McKenzie. Hopefully Davis has handwarmers for his dropitis.

[DCofNC]

5 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Why wouldn't they sign Brown and call up Beasley?? 

Nobody has wanted Brown since he left Buffalo, why sign him?  Also, signing Beasley could be a bit of an olive branch for acting like he was wrong in his stance. Right or wrong the organization didn’t exactly back him, they had others who were doing the same but being quiet.    I’m just speculating, but it would seem like a bit of a “thanks for coming back” type of thing. 

[WyoAZBillfan]

4 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Nobody has wanted Brown since he left Buffalo, why sign him?  Also, signing Beasley could be a bit of an olive branch for acting like he was wrong in his stance. Right or wrong the organization didn’t exactly back him, they had others who were doing the same but being quiet.    I’m just speculating, but it would seem like a bit of a “thanks for coming back” type of thing. 

Maybe, but who says he was really wrong in his stance? He wasn’t quiet about it and many see that as wrong. Dude lives in a free country and expressed his rights. This move looks like a promotion and gives ability to bring up 2 others from ps. It is what it is at the end of the day. Reliability for 17 to move the chains. 

[Spiderweb]

6 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

The bet here is that McKenzie and Phillips don’t play this week, that Beasley takes McKenzie’s spot, and that John Brown and Brandin Bryant are PS elevations. 

Sound logical to me too!

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I’d like to see him get a full complement of snaps in a game. Hopefully he’s in game shape now, let the guy get an entire game out there and see what he can do. Let’s get the Diggs and Beasley combo going again here full send

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

Nobody has wanted Brown since he left Buffalo, why sign him?  Also, signing Beasley could be a bit of an olive branch for acting like he was wrong in his stance. Right or wrong the organization didn’t exactly back him, they had others who were doing the same but being quiet.    I’m just speculating, but it would seem like a bit of a “thanks for coming back” type of thing. 

Not sure it Matters who gets called up as salaries are paid during regular season only- I believe all players get the same playoff bonus based on how the team does

[JMM]

1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

The Bills give up some big play potential with McKenzie out of the game day lineup, but, overall, he's been a disappointment this season, and like some other Bills has had too many drops.  Beasley doesn't give you much big play potential, but historically he's shown reliable hands, and he's been a chain mover throughout his tenure on the Bills.  It's pretty obvious that he was elevated as a response to McKenzie's injury, and the fact that they play the same base position is a primary factor in the decision to sign him to the 53 man roster.   

Um...what big plays has Mckenzie provided this season? I can't recall any. Big disappointment this year, especially the drops. Hoping Beasley can provide that consistent check down that Josh has hesitated to take at times this season. 

[bmur66]

Beasley has played with a broken leg, broken ribs and who knows what else. At times he literally caught everything thrown his way. May not be a big yac guy but moved the chains. I’m not sure how much of a roll he will play but I am glad he’s back.

Edited January 13, 2023 by bmur66

[wppete]

Like this move. Josh needs a quick outlet in the slot. 
 

When Crowder gets back it should be interesting. 
 

Diggs

Davis

Mackenzie

Shakir

Crowder

Beasley

(John Brown)

 

impressive group. 

 

[DCofNC]

14 minutes ago, JMM said:

Um...what big plays has Mckenzie provided this season? I can't recall any. Big disappointment this year, especially the drops. Hoping Beasley can provide that consistent check down that Josh has hesitated to take at times this season. 

100% this.  He seems like a fun guy, but he is not reliable on the field.  He’s got talent, but skill is highly questionable.

[CincyBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

Beasley has played with a broken leg, broken ribs and who knows what else. At times he literally caught everything thrown his way. May not be a big yac guy but moved the chains. I’m not sure how much of a roll he will play but I am glad he’s back.

And for the first time in his career with the Bills at the end of the season Beasley is close to 100% physically. So even with the drop off in performance a fresh Beasley may actually contribute more to this playoff run then he did in previous playoff runs.

 

 

 

 

[DCofNC]

2 minutes ago, wppete said:

Like this move. Josh needs a quick outlet in the slot. 
 

When Crowder gets back it should be interesting. 
 

Diggs

Davis

Mackenzie

Shakir

Crowder

Beasley

(John Brown)

 

impressive group. 

 

It’s really not.  It’s still Diggs and a group of guys. If Allen makes it work it’s more of a testimonial to his greatness than anything.  

[AlfaBill]

2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

The Bills give up some big play potential with McKenzie out of the game day lineup, but, overall, he's been a disappointment this season, and like some other Bills has had too many drops.  Beasley doesn't give you much big play potential, but historically he's shown reliable hands, and he's been a chain mover throughout his tenure on the Bills.  It's pretty obvious that he was elevated as a response to McKenzie's injury, and the fact that they play the same base position is a primary factor in the decision to sign him to the 53 man roster.   

I wouldn’t say he’s a disappointment. If you’ve expected him to replace bease then yes, but your expectations were too high. He’s a 4th option gadget guy with speed. If he’s used like that he’ll be great. 

4 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

It’s really not.  It’s still Diggs and a group of guys. If Allen makes it work it’s more of a testimonial to his greatness than anything.  

True. It’s a shame Gabe didn’t take the next step and if Shakir was used more. Who knows?

[DCofNC]

31 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

I wouldn’t say he’s a disappointment. If you’ve expected him to replace bease then yes, but your expectations were too high. He’s a 4th option gadget guy with speed. If he’s used like that he’ll be great. 

True. It’s a shame Gabe didn’t take the next step and if Shakir was used more. Who knows?

The Bills went for hope as a strategy on the WR core this year, it didn’t work.  Gabe didn’t cut it, Beasley couldn’t be replaced with Glass and Gadget, but they were cheaper.  My fear is Buffalo wants to run the Carolina model of get an MVP QB, and that’s the O, spend 65% of the cap on D.

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Maybe just based off potential connections to other teams

 

John brown just really the giants

 

Beasley has Tampa/giants/cowboys

 

 

Beasley was available most of the year. To anyone.

 

And finally we didn't call him, he called us. Humbly. Demand isn't overwhelming for the guy. Might have been a few years ago, but not now.

[AlfaBill]

4 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

The Bills went for hope as a strategy on the WR core this year, it didn’t work.  Gabe didn’t cut it, Beasley couldn’t be replaced with Glass and Gadget, but they were cheaper.  My fear is Buffalo wants to run the Carolina model of get an MVP QB, and that’s the O, spend 65% of the cap on D.

 I don’t think it was hope as a strategy I think they believed both would progress, especially Gabe. As far as the Carolina model I hope you’re wrong! 

[SCBills]

Beasley had his defender WORKED on that red zone route against Cincy. 
 

We’re a few weeks removed from that .. a few more weeks for Allen & Beas to work on timing.   
 

I’ll gladly take more of that in this Offense. 

[HerdMentality]

Beasley > Brown

[BruceVilanch]

2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

I’m just speculating, but it would seem like a bit of a “thanks for coming back” type of thing. 

I don't think we would do a "thanks for coming back" gesture in the playoffs, and I don't think this has anything to do with how he departed buffalo.