Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 This makes no sense. What is the precious roster spot this opens up in the next four weeks that will make a difference??? None. He might be ready to play in a week or two and now he has to sit. McD and Beane are playing the long game but they are forgetting that another couple division losses and they may not even make the playoffs. Win tonight and next week and this move will feel better. Lose either of the next two and the pressure on this team and the coaching staff goes through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: I'm assuming they got a second MRI now that it's been a week and the swelling is presumably down. IR means he'll miss at least 4 games, so do you think they might have decided to do a clean-up procedure now? It would make sense if they 2nd MRI showed that probably he wouldn't be able to play on the tear (what I hear is some tears you can play on, some you can't) Where's @Mr. WEO he probably knows about this stuff? It's outside my area of expertise. But lateral meniscus "damage" isn't a medically descriptive diagnosis. "Full tears" are usually repair arthroscopically. He doesn't seem to have that since he's not having a procedure. A grade 1 or 2 injury might be amenable to rest/ice/PT etc. I assume they would just follow his symptoms in that case to judge when he comes back. Maybe repeat the MRI. If he's still pushing for OBJ to the Bills, maybe he just wants a buddy to be on IR with him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: i've bought 2 jerseys to open each of the last 2 seasons..... White at the beginning of last year and Miller this season. ..... i'm truly sorry guys. These ones are on me. Why don't you buy a Mahomes jersey? 2 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: This makes no sense. What is the precious roster spot this opens up in the next four weeks that will make a difference??? None. He might be ready to play in a week or two and now he has to sit. McD and Beane are playing the long game but they are forgetting that another couple division losses and they may not even make the playoffs. Win tonight and next week and this move will feel better. Lose either of the next two and the pressure on this team and the coaching staff goes through the roof. I think we can all agree that there's no way he would have been able to play vs the jets (maybe would have returned to limited practice next week at best). Can also agree that we don't need him vs the bears. Losing him vs Miami sucks but we held them to what 20 points in Miami without 6 starters? We'll be fine without 2. Long game is the right move here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: I think we can all agree that there's no way he would have been able to play vs the jets (maybe would have returned to limited practice next week at best). Can also agree that we don't need him vs the bears. Losing him vs Miami sucks but we held them to what 20 points in Miami without 6 starters? We'll be fine without 2. Long game is the right move here. I agree but my point was having him for even a chance to play in 2,3, or 4 weeks is better than whatever stiff takes his roster spot for those 4 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, RiotAct said: In Orchard Park, right?!?!? For sure. Only if we don't get the 1 and end up with the 2 we would play the 7 which may very well be Jersey B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 47 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Our pass rush hasn't been great as of late even with Von. Frazier is having to blitz more to get good pressure lately, which I'm glad he realizes since letting meh QBs pick our weak secondary apart has become beyond frustrating. We're back at full strength tonight minus von. Let's see what they can do. I think Shaq and Oliver have a good game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Old man breaks down. I am shocked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 He’s going to get a scope and get that meniscus trimmed He can come back in 4 weeks from that with a clean knee for the playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, wjag said: buzz kill... but I think we all knew deep down in .... It’s ok, just take another hit. Bring that buzz right back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Steptide said: We're back at full strength tonight minus von. Let's see what they can do. I think Shaq and Oliver have a good game From your mouth to God's ears. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Where was Von when Cousins the statue was carving them up? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 51 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It's outside my area of expertise. But lateral meniscus "damage" isn't a medically descriptive diagnosis. "Full tears" are usually repair arthroscopically. He doesn't seem to have that since he's not having a procedure. A grade 1 or 2 injury might be amenable to rest/ice/PT etc. I assume they would just follow his symptoms in that case to judge when he comes back. Maybe repeat the MRI. If he's still pushing for OBJ to the Bills, maybe he just wants a buddy to be on IR with him! You’re talking more ligament tears vs. cartilage. If he has a piece of cartilage floating around in the joint they may want to do an arthroscopic removal. That would take a few weeks to fully recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, PaulieYayo said: Unbelievable the luck this team has We have luck? 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Bills playing it safe, I bet things would be different if the playoffs were in 2 weeks. I wonder if he’s going to get some sort of scope/cleanup done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: For a team that's 0-2 in the division it could be. If that 1 loss is to the Fins kiss the division goodbye, & it'll be tight getting that wild card spot. If it's to NE or the Jets then we'll loose to the Fins too & 2 losses, we'll need help getting a spot. The AFC & AFC East are so tight this year, not a lot of room for error. These next 3 are crucial bc they're division. The Bills may very well be in trouble in the division, but the odds of them missing the playoffs are small. 3-3 will get them in no matter who the wins and losses come against. There's basically 9 teams in play for the 7 spots. A Bills victory against the Pats tonight would essentially drop that list to 8. They're getting in as a wild card at worst Edited December 1, 2022 by buffblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Steptide said: We're back at full strength tonight minus von. Let's see what they can do. I think Shaq and Oliver have a good game I’m not sure we’re really at full strength but I like the optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffKCChiefs Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Where was Von when Cousins the statue was carving them up? He actually made a huge sack making it 4th and 18 or whatever it when Jefferson made that stupid catch. He also had a huge strip sack against the Jets we couldn't capitalize on. Both of those plays should have basically been game sealing. He also made huge game changing plays against the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, 1stgm1993 said: Well have him back for the final 2 games and playoffs now the rest of teams must step it up!! We don't know that for a fact. Tre is a good example of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, buffblue said: The Bills may very well be in trouble in the division, but the odds of them missing the playoffs are small. 3-3 will get them in no matter who the wins and losses come against. There's basically 9 teams in play for the 7 spots. A Bills victory against the Pats tonight would essentially drop that list to 8. They're getting in as a wild card at worst Hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Steptide said: So much for being back by the jets game So much for the "source" which claimed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: This makes no sense. What is the precious roster spot this opens up in the next four weeks that will make a difference??? None. He might be ready to play in a week or two and now he has to sit. McD and Beane are playing the long game but they are forgetting that another couple division losses and they may not even make the playoffs. Win tonight and next week and this move will feel better. Lose either of the next two and the pressure on this team and the coaching staff goes through the roof. Agreed. We all know more about his injury and the team's needs more than the team does. AGREED!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) It may be better to IR Von the rest of the season and go get the surgery now so he is ready to go by TC next season. Even if he came back how effective would he be ? He's pushing against 330 lb offensive lineman with a bum knee. I say shut him down Edited December 2, 2022 by JakeFrommStateFarm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Steptide said: So much for being back by the jets game Give the guy a break...they have just added 2 more weeks. Get well soon Von. Go Bills ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I like the idea of letting all the swelling go down and then building up the support muscles (quad, hamstring, calf) along with balancing and stretching then returning to activity with a brace and rushing from the side where his outside plant leg will be the healthy one anchoring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: It may be better to IR Von the rest of the season and go get the surgery now so he is ready to go by TC next season. Even if he came back how effective would he be ? He's pushing against 330 lb offensive lineman with a bum knee. I say shut him down 24 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: It may be better to IR Von the rest of the season and go get the surgery now so he is ready to go by TC next season. Even if he came back how effective would he be ? He's pushing against 330 lb offensive lineman with a bum knee. I say shut him down Professional athletes play routinely with partially torn miniscus. He’ll have the best therapy and with 4 or 5 weeks to build the knee back up, he should be able to contribute. Shutting him down for the year is not an option. He will be back for the stretch and the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: I agree. If he's hurt, he's hurt. Rest and heal up - get surgery if needed. But damn, while I'm obviously not ready to completely write off this season as a wash, it's starting to have that feel that it's just not meant to be. Feels like the team is just bandaged together at this point. I get the feeling it’s going to be one of those situations where people write them off and they come back healthy in the playoffs and slay teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, oldmanfan said: You’re talking more ligament tears vs. cartilage. If he has a piece of cartilage floating around in the joint they may want to do an arthroscopic removal. That would take a few weeks to fully recover. I wasn’t talking about ligament tears… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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