newcam2012 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, buffblue said: 7 or 8 games huh? Yeah, they were awful against the Ravens, Steelers, and Chiefs Where did I say or imply awful? Please don't put words in my mouth or misrepresent what I said. Thank you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: L it of football left to play. They're very overrated imo and had a soft schedule 1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: I think Beasley retired at halftime So! How 'bout those Bills? Think all the "Get Well Cards" Allen's elbow received did some good and his throws will be a bit more consistent today? Maybe we should start sending get well cards to Von Miller's Lateral Meniscus, c/o One Bills Drive. Thoughts? Go Bills! Edited December 1, 2022 by Beck Water 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Now That was a Fine Piece of Work. Oh..... OK Roll Highlights, I Guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 This game will be about which OT gets Josh Allen hit more, Quessenberry or Spencer Brown. Run Josh RUUUUN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Wind could factor into this one...sustained 10-15 mph winds with gusts of 25-30 mph.. Wonder if Jones is allowed to throw more than 3 passes haha https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patriots-bills-forecast-features-wild-022712330.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This game will be about which OT gets Josh Allen hit more, Quessenberry or Spencer Brown. Run Josh RUUUUN! Yeah, truthfully...this is my biggest concern. I think Dorsey is still in that stage of his development as an OC where he gets all caught up in the X's and the O's and forgets about the Jimmies and the Joes. We have a backup LT and a guy who unfortunately, probably should be a backup RT playing against Judon. Dorsey Better Have a Plan for him. They're both good run blocking tackles, so maybe we can get something rolling on the ground. Would also be a fine day for a short passing game. Belicheck seems focused on preventing big plays and preventing long Josh Allen runs. So maybe there will be some room for that. Edited December 1, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 It's actually hard to imagine starting 0-3 in the division with what IS the best team in the division. Things that are hard to imagine usually don't happen. Therefore, I believe the Bills will win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, newcam2012 said: There are several times that I've picked the Bills to win. More often than a loss. In fact, I think the Bills should win tomorrow. Have you seen the last 7 or 8 games the Bills have played? Why would you or anyone else suggest, imply, or infer an easy win or blow out by the Bills? Yet, we have many here thinking a win put is plausible. Go figure. Anyone who watched the games knows the Packers, Jets, Vikings games were heading to blowouts until Josh made a few unusual errors in the Packers/Jets games, and the defense allowed Cook that long run in the Vikings game. No I don't think there are easy wins, but we have a good chance to win every remaining game. Steelers - 38-3 - Blow out Chiefs - 24-20 - Contested game, both defenses stepped up against both Mahomes and Allen but both still made plays Packers - 27-10 - 4th Quarter Packers turnover on downs, Josh throws an interception, Rodgers throws an interception, then Allen throws an interception right back. Jets - 14-3 (Should've been 17-3 or 21-3 if it weren't for Josh's interception on the Jets 13 yard line - After half defense causes a fumble, then Josh throws it right back to them giving them the ball at the Buffalo 19 soon to be 17-14 Jets) Vikings - 27-10 - 1:34 left 3rd quarter - 81 Yard Cook run Browns - 31-16 with 1:56 left in 4th quarter Lions - Contested game Throw in the Rams, Titans and Ravens game and yeah if you watch the games, we have the potential to blow people out more than have contested games. In fact we've led by 2 scores in every game except Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, and Lions. 4-0 2 score games 4-3 1 score games Edited December 1, 2022 by What a Tuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Patriots All-Access coverage of the game It's long with a lot of fluff in there - it's like an amalgamation of all the various little feature pieces and interviews the Bills do during the week. Some key points: -It's gonna be Devin McCourty's 200th game. Kraft showed up during his presser and presented him with a special framed collage. It's a bit of a big deal for them -Mention that the Bills D is "dinged up" but still a good D -Mention that the Bills have been "sloppy in the details" with "too many turnovers". "he's thrown 7 turnovers in the last 5 games". It's True! -They feel that means the Bills are vulnerable, but, as one of their commentators said "It's like you're getting a Porsche, and you find out you're getting the base model. It's still a very nice car" -I didn't hear mention of our two big "Out for the Game", Von Miller and Dion Dawkins. On OL, the Patriots have perennially fielded a good OL with backups, so they may under appreciate how big that may be for the Bills. Still, we did manage to function against the Lions, so Think Positive. -Not just Belicheck, but several player interviews (which may more accurately reflect what the coaches are dinning into them) stressed Josh Allen's running ability and his ability to break big runs, so they need to work together and contain him. Josh recently had games of 86, 84, and 78 yds rushing (the Browns game was an outlier with 3 attempts for 7 yds) so perhaps there is reason for that stress. Matt Parrino believes Patriots Week is still a big deal to Sean McDermott: Says that things get very buttoned-up in press conferences, media availability in practice shrinks, the Bills were late out of practice on their Thursday-equivalent (which would be Monday). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, What a Tuel said: Anyone who watched the games knows the Packers, Jets, Vikings games were heading to blowouts until Josh made a few unusual errors in the Packers/Jets games, and the defense allowed Cook that long run in the Vikings game. No I don't think there are easy wins, but we have a good chance to win every remaining game. Steelers - 38-3 - Blow out Chiefs - 24-20 - Contested game, both defenses stepped up against both Mahomes and Allen but both still made plays Packers - 27-10 - 4th Quarter Packers turnover on downs, Josh throws an interception, Rodgers throws an interception, then Allen throws an interception right back. Jets - 14-3 (Should've been 17-3 or 21-3 if it weren't for Josh's interception on the Jets 13 yard line - After half defense causes a fumble, then Josh throws it right back to them giving them the ball at the Buffalo 19 soon to be 17-14 Jets) Vikings - 27-10 - 1:34 left 3rd quarter - 81 Yard Cook run Browns - 31-16 with 1:56 left in 4th quarter Lions - Contested game Throw in the Rams, Titans and Ravens game and yeah if you watch the games, we have the potential to blow people out more than have contested games. In fact we've led by 2 scores in every game except Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, and Lions. 4-0 2 score games 4-3 1 score games You can't play woulda, shoulda, coulda in football. If that's the case the Chiefs and Raven fans absolutely feel like they should have won the games against Buffalo. Early in the year, the Bills were healthy and dominate. They blew out teams. However, that early version of the Bills team is not what we see now. Not even close. No need to list all the injuries we all know them. Some might say if you have 2 score leads and lose the game your team isn't very good. Right? Or at the very least your team has some major issues to address. I'll stand by my statement that there's no way in hell this Bills team wins out. It's really blind homerism if people think that is a reality. Edited December 1, 2022 by newcam2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This game will be about which OT gets Josh Allen hit more, Quessenberry or Spencer Brown. Run Josh RUUUUN! The Pats have the number 2 QB pressure rate in the league. I believe they are top 5 in sacks as well. Judan leads the league in sacks. The Bills oline is injured and down their best player. I hope Allen doesn't get killed back there. Maybe he should run the ball 20 times. The Jets, Dolphins, Browns, Detroit, and Vikings pressured him somewhat consistently. How the heck are they going to stop a better unit in the Pats? More running since the Pats are vulnerable to the run, spread them out in 5 wide formations, more screens, etc... Almost game time. Can't wait to watch the game. Huge division game. Still think the Bills are a better team just because of Josh Allen. However, we need the best Allen on Thursday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I'll stand by my statement that there's no way in hell this Bills team wins out. It's really blind homerism if people think that is a reality. Why couldn't they win out? Don't know if they will or not but I don't see why you think there's "no chance in hell" they couldn't. They went through a little slump last season and worked their way out of it only to win out the last few games. Who's to say it won't happen again? It's not blind homerism for people to think the reality is that it's certainly possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 hours ago, newcam2012 said: There are several times that I've picked the Bills to win. More often than a loss. In fact, I think the Bills should win tomorrow. Have you seen the last 7 or 8 games the Bills have played? Why would you or anyone else suggest, imply, or infer an easy win or blow out by the Bills? Yet, we have many here thinking a win put is plausible. Go figure. Sometimes I wonder literally if you read the posts you were responding to before you type. What did you get out of? There are no push over teams that would indicate a reason to post that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) Judon he is a beast. I think he’s the key for Josh not turning ball over. Josh has had success letting Judon run passed. Pats know this and will adapt D p.s. Can someone rip those awful red sleeves off him? Edited December 1, 2022 by Since1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I'll stand by my statement that there's no way in hell this Bills team wins out. It's really blind homerism if people think that is a reality. You think the Vegas oddsmakers are a bunch of blind Bills homers? ‘Cause we’ll be favored in every game from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I'll stand by my statement that there's no way in hell this Bills team wins out. It's really blind homerism if people think that is a reality. Dont worry. Nobody thinks you're a homer. In fact, some people here probably think you're not a Bills fan. I gotta give you credit though. You're negative through and through. You've been very consistent on that. Why can't the Bills run the table? They'll be favorites in at least 5 of the last 6 games. Maybe a slight dog against the Bengals. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 hours ago, newcam2012 said: You can't play woulda, shoulda, coulda in football. If that's the case the Chiefs and Raven fans absolutely feel like they should have won the games against Buffalo. Early in the year, the Bills were healthy and dominate. They blew out teams. However, that early version of the Bills team is not what we see now. Not even close. No need to list all the injuries we all know them. Some might say if you have 2 score leads and lose the game your team isn't very good. Right? Or at the very least your team has some major issues to address. I'll stand by my statement that there's no way in hell this Bills team wins out. It's really blind homerism if people think that is a reality. I guess that means the Chiefs weren't very good last year since they blew 2 score leads in both games against the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 It’s the secondary and a new OC that had me worried at the beginning, and with only a few games left I’m really worried. Please win at NE. Go Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Beck Water said: Oliver NFL Player of the Week Let's hope it inspires him tomorrow night I was kind of bummed when McD didn’t give him a game ball! He was a beast. Nice to see Oliver get some love here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 hours ago, newcam2012 said: You can't play woulda, shoulda, coulda in football. If that's the case the Chiefs and Raven fans absolutely feel like they should have won the games against Buffalo. Early in the year, the Bills were healthy and dominate. They blew out teams. However, that early version of the Bills team is not what we see now. Not even close. No need to list all the injuries we all know them. Some might say if you have 2 score leads and lose the game your team isn't very good. Right? Or at the very least your team has some major issues to address. I'll stand by my statement that there's no way in hell this Bills team wins out. It's really blind homerism if people think that is a reality. 1) Chiefs never led by more than 3 points, so....? Yes, Ravens should have closed their games, just like they should have against the Dolphins. 2) The Bills are 5-2 in games where they had 2 score leads at any point in the game. Like I already told you, the two losses were Vikings/Jets where Josh and the defense made a few game changing mistakes. We played good games if it weren't for those mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, What a Tuel said: 1) Chiefs never led by more than 3 points, so....? Yes, Ravens should have closed their games, just like they should have against the Dolphins. 2) The Bills are 5-2 in games where they had 2 score leads at any point in the game. Like I already told you, the two losses were Vikings/Jets where Josh and the defense made a few game changing mistakes. We played good games if it weren't for those mistakes. But the mistakes were made. You can't discount or minimize them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Line opened at -5.5. Now it's -3.5. Wonder why the move. Is DD being out worthy of 2 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: But the mistakes were made. You can't discount or minimize them. I'm not discounting or minimizing them. I acknowledge they were game changing mistakes. However they were game changing mistakes that put a black mark on an otherwise good performance. Momentum changers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: Line opened at -5.5. Now it's -3.5. Wonder why the move. Is DD being out worthy of 2 points? I’m a bit confused by it…elam healthy and an expanding role for tre should remove a big weak link from the secondary and edmunds returning will remove our other big defensive weak link at LB. We’ve had to gameplan around 2-3 players that were really struggling on the defensive side for most of the season and we will not have to tonight. the injury report was a big win this week even without Dawkins no von but we’re getting Rousseau back and josh was full practice on the injury report so I’m assuming his elbow is getting better. I feel like this is an unbiased take that the bills are gonna win this one pretty comfortably but you never know maybe there’s some bias in there 😂 Edited December 1, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: Line opened at -5.5. Now it's -3.5. Wonder why the move. Is DD being out worthy of 2 points? It’s $$ coming in that has moved the line, not the injury report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: Line opened at -5.5. Now it's -3.5. Wonder why the move. Is DD being out worthy of 2 points? not surprising. as long time bettor i was surprised it came out at 5.5 and assumed the public would bet it down... its a pesky bellicheck coached team at home thats almost on life support for the remainder of the season vs a Bills team that has made everything look difficult in losses AND wins over the last month. Thats what your everyday bettor sees.... and sorta what i see too... i'm not just gonna go into every Pats game assuming Allen is gonna go scorched earth. i think the media and us fans are putting way too much stock into what happened at the end of last season. Edited December 1, 2022 by Stank_Nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, Boatdrinks said: It’s $$ coming in that has moved the line, not the injury report I believe most of the money is coming in on Buffalo. Nothing crazy but I think it's like 60% on Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 53 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: But the mistakes were made. You can't discount or minimize them. You also can't overvalue them and blow them out of proportion... but you do... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: Line opened at -5.5. Now it's -3.5. Wonder why the move. Is DD being out worthy of 2 points? NE is home. They have a good defense. Even in wins recently the Bills haven't looked all that great. This is a must win for NE. At 6-5 they can't afford a loss. 6-6 will make it very tough for them to make the playoffs in a strong AFC. You know that saying about "an animal backed into a corner has no choice but to come out fighting". Well, that is NE tonight and that makes them dangerous. I think tonight's game is going to be like the Detroit. It won't be decided until the very end. Let's Go Buffalo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, ßookie_tech said: I believe most of the money is coming in on Buffalo. Nothing crazy but I think it's like 60% on Bills. From a pod i saw it was the Pro's were leaning buffalo but the public was hitting pats hard. 1 minute ago, Greg S said: NE is home. They have a good defense. Even in wins recently the Bills haven't looked all that great. This is a must win for NE. At 6-5 they can't afford a loss. 6-6 will make it very tough for them to make the playoffs in a strong AFC. You know that saying about "an animal backed into a corner has no choice but to come out fighting". Well, that is NE tonight and that makes them dangerous. I think tonight's game is going to be like the Detroit. It won't be decided until the very end. Let's Go Buffalo. Just said almost exactly the same thing upstream. this is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Since1981 said: Judon he is a beast. I think he’s the key for Josh not turning ball over. Josh has had success letting Judon run passed. Pats know this and will adapt D p.s. Can someone rip those awful red sleeves off him? Judon has largely been unnoticeable against the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: But the mistakes were made. You can't discount or minimize them. Gorge W agrees with that statement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/01/patriots-add-trent-brown-to-injury-report-with-illness/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Judon has largely been unnoticeable against the Bills Last year, yes. Judon played through medical issues and had 12.5 sacks in 17 games. This year, Judon is healthy and playing like a man possessed, with 13 sacks through 11 games, which leads the NFL. I'm not definitively saying he will or won't have a great game against the Bills (though my money would be on him having a big impact), I'm just saying that he's a different player this year than he was last year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Man, every other comment on the Pats boards is a variation of "we have 6 Super Bowls and they don't." They really made a seamless transition to being Yankees fans, which is some fun irony. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Success said: Man, every other comment on the Pats boards is a variation of "we have 6 Super Bowls and they don't." They really made a seamless transition to being Yankees fans, which is some fun irony. When their team really declines (probably when Bill isn't there anymore) those "fans" will disappear. The Pats will go back to being the 4th wheel in that market. It's a Sox town and even the B's and Celtics have more of a hard core following. 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Greg S said: NE is home. They have a good defense. Even in wins recently the Bills haven't looked all that great. This is a must win for NE. At 6-5 they can't afford a loss. 6-6 will make it very tough for them to make the playoffs in a strong AFC. You know that saying about "an animal backed into a corner has no choice but to come out fighting". Well, that is NE tonight and that makes them dangerous. I think tonight's game is going to be like the Detroit. It won't be decided until the very end. Let's Go Buffalo. They caught us a couple weeks too late imo. Our defense is night and day when edmunds and Milano play and Dane Jackson isn’t forced into a huge role in the secondary. I don’t think the psychological motivation of needing to win the game trumps the individual matchups on the field. Heck we need to win the game just as badly as them anyway The NE defense has been great against pocket passers but their linebackers are slow bruisers who are great at stopping the opposing running back but seem to have trouble accounting for qbs that can scramble. Maybe it’s wishful thinking idk and I give our resident pats fan free rein to make fun of me if I’m wrong 😂, but I objectively(I think lol) don’t see this game being close. There’s a lot of tangible reasons why we have struggled the last few weeks and a lot of those problems will not exist tonight if we were missing edmunds or Milano I’d expect the game to be close Edited December 1, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 21 hours ago, Greg S said: I agree Mac Jones and company will have a tough time scoring 20 against the Bills D. If the Bills don't turn the ball over, they might not get to 17. I see what you did there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: They caught us a couple weeks too late imo. Our defense is night and day when edmunds and Milano play and Dane Jackson isn’t forced into a huge role in the secondary. I don’t think the psychological motivation of needing to win the game trumps the individual matchups on the field. Heck we need to win the game just as badly as them anyway The NE defense has been great against pocket passers but their linebackers are slow bruisers who are great at stopping the opposing running back but seem to have trouble accounting for qbs that can scramble. Maybe it’s wishful thinking idk and I give our resident pats fan free rein to make fun of me if I’m wrong 😂, but I objectively(I think lol) don’t see this game being close. There’s a lot of tangible reasons why we have struggled the last few weeks and a lot of those problems will not exist tonight I hope you are right I really do. I just think this will be the Detroit game all over again. By around 11:00 tonight it will be crunch time. The Bills either win a close one or lose a heartbreaker. I like your scenario much better, so I hope I am wrong. 1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said: I see what you did there. LOL. I just saw what "I did there" but I really didn't mean it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWei44 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 FWIW, my cousin is a die-hard Pats fan and goes to every home game - He texted me last night that he thinks the "Bills are going to crush us" - Hope he's right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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