NFL Week 10 - Vikings at Bills post game thread

[SoMAn]

1 minute ago, Neo said:

1968.  Richard Nixon was elected President of the United States, for a first term, just five days earlier.

For the record, I was being completely facetious and I don’t believe in anything like a jinx. 
That said, I think it’s time we start Case Keenum and make Josh sit for a few games and have a time out. Make him think about what he’s done to us. What do you say fellas-are you with me? 😏

oh almost forgot ….fire Frazier, McDermott, Beane(for giving Minn WR Jefferson) and cancel plans for the new stadium.  
Where can I get a # 18 Bills’ Jersey? 

[Cygnus99]

Season is over 

[Georgia Bill]

6 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I mean…..speaking honestly here. JA has to be completely out of the running for MVP. He would have to have some monstrous remaining games through the rest of the year and Pat Mahomes would have to break his leg. 

Who the F gives a crap about whether Josh Allen gets MVP?  I'm kind of sick about hearing all that talk.  We need to win games and championships.  If he is worrying about being MVP we have a real problem.

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

That was a crazy ass game we should have won handily against a really good team. If Josh doesn't stop seeing ghosts we're doomed, but thankfully we got the  Browns and lions next to go 8-3 and 99 percent of you guys should hop off the Xanax for a lil bit after that. 

[TheWeatherMan]

Just now, CoudyBills said:

The coaching staff is throwing 2 picks a week lately?  Fumbling uncontrollably?

Yes

[Billz4ever]

This team was odds on favorite for the super bowl team as Josh was for MVP.

 

Now, the playoffs are not even guaranteed and Josh is imploding.

 

Such a disappointing season.

[SCBills]

Hard not to look at coaching when this team is swooning in the exact same way as last year.  
 

It’s wild how similar their issues are. 
 

Issue 1 is Allen. He’s way too reckless with the ball and our defense isn’t good enough at the moment to cover that up. 
 

This season goes nowhere if he continues playing like this. 

[Playoffs?]

1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

As long as they don't build the new stadium on an Indian burial ground, the curse should be lifted in 2026

Perfect.  Just 4 short years. 
 

Except it’s Buffalo… they’ll find a way to build it on another Indian burial ground.  Our whole city must sit on an Indian burial ground. 

[muppy]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

They are really poorly coached when it comes to situational awareness and in-game adjustments.  These coaches are complete blockheads, they're mouth breathers.

it feels like that for me tonight too. 

[CEN-CAL17]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

 

I just wish we weren't starting garbage 7th rounders when you have a """stud""" CB ready to come back. 

Everyone on the defense and coaches and sideline should have been yelling… just knock it down, knock it down. It was 4th down….

 

Nope, go for the interception. 

[The 9 Isles]

1 minute ago, Airseven said:

Close games=gaffes=losses is why the Super Bowl hype was so silly. This team is embarrassing.

That’s exactly it. 
 

this team really, really is embarrassing. 
 

[Roundybout]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

Dorsey should be fired ASAP.  If McD wont then he can go also

 

Dorsey is in over his head. No second half touchdowns since the chiefs game shows he doesn't know how to adjust. 

[MarkyMannn]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

In their defense… we have good backups when one or two guys are out.  
 

We finished the game missing Edmunds, Rousseau, Poyer and Elam.  Tre in witness protection.  Backup already in for Hyde since he’s done.  
 

Just insane. 

That's A LOT of missing talent

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

19 minutes ago, Amaru523 said:

Time for me to take a Bills/Sabres vacation, these teams are too painful to watch. 

I agree, it’s over. Time to put some serious OT in for the next few months

[The 9 Isles]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Don't panic. This is not the end of the season. We got a lot of football to play.

 

However, 3 points in the 2nd half though? That's not going to win us anything. Coach McDermott and Ken Dorsey are clearly not making adjustments and making bad decisions.

Give it a rest. 

[Norcalbillsfan]

A few of my angry post game opinions:

 

1. Loss is heavily, heavily on josh. Not just because of that last int. But he is NOT making reads. On his first end zone int he looked away from a wide open duke Johnson who had a walk in first down and possible TD. Instead he forces an int. Last int. He had an easy 1st down with a rush, Instead forces a mind blowing int.

 

2. Frazier, we get it, you have your ways and won't deviate. But my God, who else is gonna get the ball on the 50ish 3rd and impossibles we gave up today? Change it up, give your rookie cb some help.

 

3. Not kicking the FG, hind sight is 20/20. But with the way this team has played the past few weeks in the 4th and the way the vikings have played in the 4th, 3 points becomes really important. That being said, josh missed a wide open duke johnson and it was a good play call, just not the best decision to go for it.

 

4. Not In love with dorsey but I'm also not angry with him. It's easy to point at dorsey when drives die. But 2nd and 2, Singletary stutter steps into a defender. Later Singletary fumbles. Diggs drops a pass off his chest, josh not checking down to wide open rbs, josh fumbles a snap, josh 2 end zone ints.. just a few drive killers today that dorsey has no control over.

 

5. Undisciplined rush lanes from our edge, especially from vonn continues to hurt us more than we think. Obviously vonn is a beast and makes big plays but I'm pretty sure Frazier pulled vonn on a few plays because his rush lanes were reckless, he had outside leverage on a TE, still got hooked by the TE and gave up the game changing 1st down, pretty inexcusable given vonns superior talent, and you could tell he knew he messed up when he put his head down.

 

6. I don't feel like the sky is falling, this is a good team. But are showing they can't make the big plays when it counts and can't win if josh in a funk. Can't wait for tre and and groot to get healthy. But josh needs to do some soul searching.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Norcalbillsfan

[BuffaloBills1998]

Just now, wppete said:

so you are not for benching Josh? Because a lot of people on here are. 

Well then you guys are stupid. No other way to put it just stupid. I hope Allen requests a trade off this team so I can watch this franchise completely crumble and go back to being a worthless doormat like they used to be.

[TheFunPolice]

Allen is way too emotional. Coaches need to calm him down so he when he makes amazing plays he doesn't throw it away on the next play

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I’m not at all defending the sneak call…I just don’t think the snap even got to josh was all I was saying 

 

The call was stupid, the execution was bad and the result was awful.

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, jkeerie said:

I was upset we didn't take the 3 for sure.  That INT was on 4th down, though.  There were no running lanes, so either way it would be a turnover on downs.  I don't understand why we didn't take the 3 points.

 

Because Josh called the shots. McDermott and Dorsey need to pull rank on him now.

[PauleeeWalnuts]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

This team was odds on favorite for the super bowl team as Josh was for MVP.

 

Now, the playoffs are not even guaranteed and Josh is imploding.

 

Such a disappointing season.

Agreed….very Billsy of them

[SoMAn]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

That’s a smart ***** move. Absolutely brilliant. How most of you guys aren’t rocket scientists or brain surgeons I’ll never know

No, hear him out for gods sake!

[Scott7975]

5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

hahah.  who was the clown who thought we shouldn’t sit JA to let him watch a game and called me all sorts of names?   He was the Minny MVP today.   What now!

 

We didnt lose the game because Josh was injured.  Get a grip.

[Barnaby Wilde]

I am just as sick as the next guy but this is a team that the worst thing they can give you is hope.  After that goal line stand and the Josh fumble with 44 seconds, you still get a chance after tying it with a field goal.  The crowd is in the mood to celebrate. Josh is running like a bull, they get to the twenty yard line and it;'s like you can do this.  What a party this is gonna be.  And then BOOM, play from Hell.  Never fails.  Worst thing the Bills can give ya is hope.  How do I defend myself from ridicule with the rest of my NFL buddies?  No way.  I'm afraid to show my face.

[CEN-CAL17]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

 

They're the ones calling the defense that puts Dane Jackson on an island with Jefferson all game long. 

People only see the play… don’t understand things like that. Like how not having a running game hurts Josh.

[dakrider]

Cousins outplayed Allen in this game and Jefferson outplayed Diggs. And Delvin Cook outplayed Bills RB's too.

Allen two end zone interceptions and a botched snap on your own goal line are just inexcusable.

[Beast]

Just now, Roundybout said:

 

They're the ones calling the defense that puts Dane Jackson on an island with Jefferson all game long. 

How many late game situations do we have to see this defense give up 3rd and 4th and forever?

 

McDermott and Frazier are killing this team. At least Dorsey is in his 1st season at a coordinator position. He has room to grow.

 

McDermott and Frazier are who they are.

[billsbackto81]

Wonder what excuse will be when Tre and Poyer are inactive next week.

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

Who just got demolished by Miami.

They did a good job keeping their WR in check for a half.. lol they had zero pass rush..

[Big Turk]

Just now, Norcalbillsfan said:

A few of my angry post game opinions:

 

1. Loss is heavily, heavily on josh. Not just because of that last int. But he is NOT making reads. On his first end zone int he looked away from a wide open duke Johnson who had a walk in first down and possible TD. Instead he forces an int. Last int. He had an easy 1st down with a rush, Instead forces a mind blowing int.

 

2. Frazier, we get it, you have your ways and won't deviate. But my God, who else is gonna get the ball on the 50ish 3rd and impossibles we gave up today? Change it up, give your rookie cb some help.

 

3. Not kicking the FG, hind sight is 20/20. But with the way this team has played the past few weeks in the 4th and the way the vikings have played in the 4th, 3 points becomes really important. That being said, josh missed a wide open duke johnson and it was a good play call, just not the best decision to go for it.

 

4. Not In love with dorsey but I'm also not angry with him. It's easy to point at dorsey when drives die. But 2nd and 2, Singletary stutter steps into a defender. Later Singletary fumbles. Diggs drops a pass off his chest, josh not checking down to wide open rbs, josh fumbles a snap, josh 2 end zone ints.. just a few drive killers today that dorsey has no control over.

 

5. I don't feel like the sky is falling, this is a good team. But are showing they can't make the big plays when it counts and can't win if josh in a funk. Can't wait for tre and and groot to get healthy. But josh needs to do some soul searching.

 

The sneak call at your half yard line is not a smart call. It just isn't.

[Roundybout]

5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

hahah.  who was the clown who thought we shouldn’t sit JA to let him watch a game and called me all sorts of names?   He was the Minny MVP today.   What now!

 

He was the entire offense AGAIN. 

[muppy]

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

This roster is loaded with talent which is why they blow a lot of teams out and often get away with making bad mistakes.

 

Coaching is why they struggle in close games. Attention to detail. Knowing the situation. 

ahem. AKA Playcalling. Thats my opinion. Situational awareness indeed. Its a very valid point

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

Just now, Georgia Bill said:

Who the F gives a crap about whether Josh Allen gets MVP?  I'm kind of sick about hearing all that talk.  We need to win games and championships.  If he is worrying about being MVP we have a real problem.

Oh, I never cared. But for weeks and weeks all I saw on this board was MVP! MVP! And Super Bowl!  And, historically great offense. 
 

I saw the same team I saw last year. Same flaws and same bad coaching. 
 

Now no one cares? Interesting. 

[WyoAZBillfan]

Bandwagon/fair weather fans are weak of heart. It’s more embarrassing than taking a loss, especially against a team that has lost 1 game, 2 games…y’all need to suck it up or move on to whatever the flavor of the month is. 
 

It’s about entertainment, your not getting a check, relax and enjoy the ride. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Weak. 

[Dan]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

Dorsey should be fired ASAP.  If McD wont then he can go also

At the very least he ..and Frazier.. need to do some serious self evaluation and figure out what they’re doing wrong.    The defense let the game get away every bit as much as then offense. 

[Bill Grundy]

1 minute ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

A few of my angry post game opinions:

 

1. Loss is heavily, heavily on josh. Not just because of that last int. But he is NOT making reads. On his first end zone int he looked away from a wide open duke Johnson who had a walk in first down and possible TD. Instead he forces an int. Last int. He had an easy 1st down with a rush, Instead forces a mind blowing int.

 

2. Frazier, we get it, you have your ways and won't deviate. But my God, who else is gonna get the ball on the 50ish 3rd and impossibles we gave up today? Change it up, give your rookie cb some help.

 

3. Not kicking the FG, hind sight is 20/20. But with the way this team has played the past few weeks in the 4th and the way the vikings have played in the 4th, 3 points becomes really important. That being said, josh missed a wide open duke johnson and it was a good play call, just not the best decision to go for it.

 

4. Not In love with dorsey but I'm also not angry with him. It's easy to point at dorsey when drives die. But 2nd and 2, Singletary stutter steps into a defender. Later Singletary fumbles. Diggs drops a pass off his chest, josh not checking down to wide open rbs, josh fumbles a snap, josh 2 end zone ints.. just a few drive killers today that dorsey has no control over.

 

5. I don't feel like the sky is falling, this is a good team. But are showing they can't make the big plays when it counts and can't win if josh in a funk. Can't wait for tre and and groot to get healthy. But josh needs to do some soul searching.

Great post. Thanks 

[Iverwig]

1 minute ago, PaulieYayo said:

Third place in the division, 6 interceptions in the last 3 games, poor play calling and even worse execution. They literally gave this game away  a few times, unreal. Going from the #1 seed to a fight for a wildcard spot now, how “Billsy”. These guys believed too much of their own hype 

This is what happens when there is no discipline and only fun, fun, fun. Karaoke Tuesday night basement, playing around in the second half of the G. Bay game. What NFL team does that and thinks they can turn it on and off when they want? McD needs to take a hard look in the mirror. Josh, Dorsey and Frazier have been problems the last few games but McD deserves a big part if the blame as well. 

[Playoffs?]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

This team was odds on favorite for the super bowl team as Josh was for MVP.

 

Now, the playoffs are not even guaranteed and Josh is imploding.

 

Such a disappointing season.

That’s all on the media. They were building up the Bills, and everyone was buying into the hype. As a long time Buffalo sports fan, you learn it’s ok to have faith, but don’t ever get your expectations to high. They’ll always let you down. 

[schoolhouserock]

This must be who this team is.

What we will see for the next 10 years:

 

Fast start, mid-season slump.

Scrape into the post season.

win home playoff games

lose road playoff games

lose all crazy games along the way

repeat

[Watkins90]

I'd really like to know how OBJ has already been cleared to play but White is still not?