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Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)


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34 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Also, does Josh look like he's in pain walking off the field after the final throw?

 

 

4 pm?!?! Why so friggin late?!?!

 

Probably because its after practice?  Better off after practice than before.  We might get something better than "we are taking it day by day with Josh." Doubtful but we might.

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On 11/7/2022 at 4:49 PM, Beck Water said:

 

I'm going to hazard a guess here, that you haven't worked closely with many really good, PhD level physical therapists.

 

I have absolutely had a really good PT diagnose me - after a Dr visit and tests - said walk here, turn there, hold this up, pressed (SCREAMS), proceeded to write a note to doctor suggesting re-examination and different tests.  Have others in my social circle with similar experiences.   Part of the issue is that the art of physical examination is not as thoroughly taught to physicians these days, when tests are more objective - but they have to be the right tests looking at the right part.

 

Then I'm gonna let this go, because it really doesn't matter.

Your guess is wrong, your assumption about physicians not being taught physical examination thoroughly is downright hilarious, and the lack of excessive quotation marks in your reply is leaving me a little disappointed. 

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11 hours ago, clayboy54 said:

You seem to have missed my whole premise. None of us have EVER seen Case Keenam with a week of preparation and game planning, not to mention playing with all the starters. You can say what you want and dig your heels in, too. You have no earthly idea what he can do with the opportunity. At best, you are on a soapbox.

 

This is a valid point IMHO.  When we saw Keenum inserted with the starters in pre-season, as I recall he moved the ball.

When we've seen Keenum in mop-up duty, he's playing with the backups.

 

Here's what we know about Keenum's past playing history.

1) he showed flashes being pressed into service for a suddenly defunct Matt Schaub on the Texans

2) he looked awful on a Rams team that managed to make Sam Bradford, Nick Foles, and Keenum all look totally inept.

Bradford looked competent next year in Minn (then got hurt); Keenum had an 11-3, 22 TD 7 INT season with Minn; Foles won the Superbowl (point is these aren't 3 great QB, but they were all functional in the right offense)

3) he had a chance to start in Denver and was Not Good Enough (but Denver was cycling through coaches and QBs like a Mile High Laundromat

4) Since then played for Washington and Cleveland.  He won the two games he started last year in Cleveland.

 

My $0.02 for what it's worth, is that Keenum is able to be a competent NFL QB in the right system.  He doesn't have a lot of mobility, and he's at his best with the support of a competent run game. 

 

Can the Bills put enough of the "right" system around him to win if he plays?  Don't know.  It will be a challenge for Dorsey and the team. 

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2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

This is a valid point IMHO.  When we saw Keenum inserted with the starters in pre-season, as I recall he moved the ball.

When we've seen Keenum in mop-up duty, he's playing with the backups.

 

Here's what we know about Keenum's past playing history.

1) he showed flashes being pressed into service for a suddenly defunct Matt Schaub on the Texans

2) he looked awful on a Rams team that managed to make Sam Bradford, Nick Foles, and Keenum all look totally inept.

Bradford looked competent next year in Minn (then got hurt); Keenum had an 11-3, 22 TD 7 INT season with Minn; Foles won the Superbowl (point is these aren't 3 great QB, but they were all functional in the right offense)

3) he had a chance to start in Denver and was Not Good Enough (but Denver was cycling through coaches and QBs like a Mile High Laundromat

4) Since then played for Washington and Cleveland.  He won the two games he started last year in Cleveland.

 

My $0.02 for what it's worth, is that Keenum is able to be a competent NFL QB in the right system.  He doesn't have a lot of mobility, and he's at his best with the support of a competent run game. 

 

Can the Bills put enough of the "right" system around him to win if he plays?  Don't know.  It will be a challenge for Dorsey and the team. 

I believe Frank Reich is available and I recall he backed up Jim Kelly wonderfully in several very critical games.....

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14 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

Your guess is wrong, your assumption about physicians not being taught physical examination thoroughly is downright hilarious, and the lack of excessive quotation marks in your reply is leaving me a little disappointed. 

 

Oh, well, can't please everyone.  I might have some factual basis for my comments.  Then again, I might not.  Moving on.....

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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

This guy has known stuff in the past, he has some kind of connection to the team, maybe through the facility or trainers:

 

Tweeted about 40 minutes ago, 8:10 pm -ish

He's also been wrong a ton of times. His tweets are guesses/opinions. It's not a coincidence he tweeted that after Diggs tweet.

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1 hour ago, gobilz said:

Who would back up keenum? Wouldn’t they need to get some one in here pronto?

 

They would cut a player and promote Matt Barkley from the practice squad.

 

2 minutes ago, Process said:

He's also been wrong a ton of times. His tweets are guesses/opinions. It's not a coincidence he tweeted that after Diggs tweet.

 

I defer to your broader exposure to the guy.  I do think he may know someone who works in the training facility, but I'm sure rumors surge through the facility that are sometimes wrong and sometimes right, too.

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1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said:

 

I like this reply

 

 

47 minutes ago, chaccof said:

I believe Frank Reich is available and I recall he backed up Jim Kelly wonderfully in several very critical games.....

 

That poor guy!   He looks like he's aged about 2 decades in his 4.5 years as the Colts HC.  I look at him and go "*****, he's about my age, do I look that old?"

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4 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

This guy "claims" to know something everyone else doesn't (thru Joshs GF text messages to his friend)...

 

claiming Josh getting PRP treatment/partially torn UCL...which is likely bogus.  He's also borderline unstable, with his responses to others.  Take it for what it's worth.

So for context had this guy put out injury diagnosis in the past and been correct? 

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10 minutes ago, akcash said:

I watched the all 22... Allen didn't grab his arm right after he threw the last one for what its worth.

 

That's the biggest thing to me...he wasn't grabbing his arm like he was in pain, he was grabbing it as if he was trying to get feeling back in his arm like it had the tinglies in it.

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Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:


this guy has definitely had an in when it comes to inury related news before

Agree.  As others said, he is sometimes spot on with advanced knowledge and sometimes it doesn't come true/or not immediately...ie: recall him mentioning Speedy getting more involved last yr right before he was activated for McKenzie at PR.

 

Is it 4pm Wednesday yet

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4 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Agree.  As others said, he is sometimes spot on with advanced knowledge and sometimes it doesn't come true/or not immediately...ie: recall him mentioning Speedy getting more involved last yr right before he was activated for McKenzie at PR.

 

Is it 4pm Wednesday yet

 

I think McD's presser will be before practice tomorrow.  Late morning?

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15 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Agree.  As others said, he is sometimes spot on with advanced knowledge and sometimes it doesn't come true/or not immediately...ie: recall him mentioning Speedy getting more involved last yr right before he was activated for McKenzie at PR.

 

Is it 4pm Wednesday yet

He also tweeted "Shakir is the starting slot WR now" after the Steelers game .....

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Stephania from ESPN is a physical therapist by trade and she said if he indeed is getting a Platelet injection, they usually give it 2-weeks. 
 

But Darlington didn’t have anything either. 

I had one for a knee injury and he wanted me on crutches for a couple days to let it work.

 

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