Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 And the strangest thread of the season goes to… 🇮🇹🏈🌀🏆😂 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Have you tried bringing the armchair out to the yard? (Sorry Italian Bills... I couldn't resist that one!) 2 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 It's not your fault. You probably grew up playing the wrong kind of "football" over there. We probably can't kick a ball as well as you over here so you would have to teach us. My cousins had an exchange student from Spain and he wasn't good at soccer in his country but he came here and he was one of the best players in the area. I'm guessing we could come there and be the best American football players Italy has ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Try standing up when you throw! It's hard to see on TV, but they say the QB's footwork is critical to throwing the ball properly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 JP Losman said it's like flicking a booger 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Snap your wrist downward just as you release the ball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Hold the ball back near the tip with your fingers spread across the laces. I recommend throwing overhand vs sidearm. As you release the ball, it ALL ABOUT the flick of your fingertips. Keep throwing until you find the right fingertip spin to dial in the spiral. I have faith in you. Next week, we’ll work on acuracy.😉👍 Edited October 30, 2022 by Chandler#81 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Hire Jordan Palmer. He works for pasta I hear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 It's all in the wrist. Need to build strength. 😄 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huh? What? Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Italian Bills - Do you have any renderings of how you toss the ball, they may be helpful for the audience... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, StHustle said: And the strangest thread of the season goes to… 🇮🇹🏈🌀🏆😂 😂😂😂 1 hour ago, NI Bills Fan said: Have you tried bringing the armchair out to the yard? (Sorry Italian Bills... I couldn't resist that one!) Great idea ! I’ll try 🤣 53 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: It's not your fault. You probably grew up playing the wrong kind of "football" over there. We probably can't kick a ball as well as you over here so you would have to teach us. My cousins had an exchange student from Spain and he wasn't good at soccer in his country but he came here and he was one of the best players in the area. I'm guessing we could come there and be the best American football players Italy has ever seen. Good point… but i’d love to learn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Start with a good grip and lose the chair https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+grip+a+football&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS745US745&oq=how+to+grip+a+foo&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l4.12752j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Hold the ball back near the tip with your fingers spread across the laces. I recommend throwing overhand vs sidearm. As you release the ball, it ALL ABOUT the flick of your fingertips. Keep throwing until you find the right fingertip spin to dial in the spiral. I have faith in you. Next week, we’ll work on acuracy.😉👍 Ohhh man, that’s a great explanation. I need a teammate also: somebody available ? 58 minutes ago, Huh? What? said: Italian Bills - Do you have any renderings of how you toss the ball, they may be helpful for the audience... I could a short video to post here 22 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Start with a good grip and lose the chair https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+grip+a+football&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS745US745&oq=how+to+grip+a+foo&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l4.12752j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 I’ll get a look today before the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Spin the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 just watch Josh and do what he does. Any day you should be able to throw 70 yards if you do what Josh does 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 Go to the one minute mark. Pretty good explanation of how Josh throws the ball. Really, only one or two fingers are on the laces. If you put all 5 fingers on the laces you’ll helicopter it (like my daughter when she was 9 years old.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 I'll fly over and give you personal lessons of you teach me how to make a proper pasta. 1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said: Start with a good grip and lose the chair https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+grip+a+football&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS745US745&oq=how+to+grip+a+foo&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l4.12752j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Steph Curry fixed his shooting form using a chair. Just saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Looks like you’re getting the advice you’ve requested. Your thread title had me concerned you’d been kidnapped or something more sinister had occurred, happy to be breathing a sigh of relief for you. 😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I think you're on the right track already. If you rewind some of Josh's best throws you'll notice he's actually in an armchair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 Salve, Bills Italiano … Mi chiamo Neo e io sono di Tampa, Florida. I’m going to Italy next summer. I’ll show you my mad uncle Rico skills. Perfecto? No, ma non male. PS … I’m learning to speak Italian using Duolingo. I’m three weeks in. Ciao. Ciao Ciao. Arrivederci. Un caffè con latte e una cornetto, per favore! FANTASTICO. Edited October 30, 2022 by Neo 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Go to the one minute mark. Pretty good explanation of how Josh throws the ball. Really, only one or two fingers are on the laces. If you put all 5 fingers on the laces you’ll helicopter it (like my daughter when she was 9 years old.) 🤦🏽♂️😄 42 minutes ago, CSBill said: I'll fly over and give you personal lessons of you teach me how to make a proper pasta. Steph Curry fixed his shooting form using a chair. Just saying. Whenever you want to come here you’ll be very welcome my friend. i’ll cook not only the real pasta, but more and more ! 😃 21 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Looks like you’re getting the advice you’ve requested. Your thread title had me concerned you’d been kidnapped or something more sinister had occurred, happy to be breathing a sigh of relief for you. 😂😂 😄😄😄😄😄😄 im all safe buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 With right hand grip the laces of the ball with your fingers. Right arm with the ball bent at the elbow behind your head, left arm in front. Standing sideways with right foot back, left foot forward, toes pointed at the target. Knees bent slightly. As you throw transfer your weight from your back foot to your front foot. Bring the back foot & hips around to the front as you twist your right side around driving your right arm forward and pulling your left arm down and back. Your right arm straightens as it comes in front of you. Flick your right wrist as you open your fingers grasping the ball so that your hand is facing palm up. Your looking to make the ball roll off your hand as your driving it forward, which is what creates the spiral. Good luck & remember practice makes perfect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Hey IB... the release point changes as the trajectory changes. If you're throwing an arching ball you release it higher. If your throwing a hard throw low to the ground you release it more level with your shoulders/head. Just gotta let go of the ball at the right point. And follow through with thumb pointed down to flick your wrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Neo said: Salve, Bills Italiano … Mi chiamo Neo e io sono di Tampa, Florida. I’m going to Italy next summer. I’ll show you my mad uncle Rico skills. Perfecto? No, ma non male. PS … I’m learning to speak Italian using Duolingo. I’m three weeks in. Ciao. Ciao Ciao. Arrivederci. Un caffè con latte e una cornetto, per favore! FANTASTICO. Ciao Neo ! I’ve been in Tampa years ago, went to Clearwater also.. beaufiful places. I’ve been many times in Florida also. If you come here next summer, let’s keep in touch in some way… maybe we could meet and spend a couple of days together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: With right hand grip the laces of the ball with your fingers. Right arm with the ball bent at the elbow behind your head, left arm in front. Standing sideways with right foot back, left foot forward, toes pointed at the target. Knees bent slightly. As you throw transfer your weight from your back foot to your front foot. Bring the back foot & hips around to the front as you twist your right side around driving your right arm forward and pulling your left arm down and back. Your right arm straightens as it comes in front of you. Flick your right wrist as you open your fingers grasping the ball so that your hand is facing palm up. Your looking to make the ball roll off your hand as your driving it forward, which is what creates the spiral. Good luck & remember practice makes perfect. Be more specific on “fingers on the laces” (as per video above and how most of us throw it). If he puts four fingers on the laces, he’ll look goofy. There’s really only two fingers on the laces (ring finger and pinky). The remaining fingers are on the leather toward the end of the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: JP Losman said it's like flicking a booger Now we understand his modest NFL career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I'm Italian! What part of Italy are you from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, sonyab1974 said: I'm Italian! What part of Italy are you from? North side, one hour by car from Milano, narrow swisse You ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: North side, one hour by car from Milano, narrow swisse You ? I just got my Milano jersey! Italy is fantastic! Beautiful country! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Hire Jordan Palmer. He works for pasta I hear. within a week Palmer would be tweeting that Italian Bills is among the best QB prospects he has ever coached. Simms already has this guy in his top 40... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 I think you are screwd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: North side, one hour by car from Milano, narrow swisse You ? My family, on my mother's side, is from Treviso. Enjoy the game and good luck developing that perfect spiral! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Pete said: I just got my Milano jersey! Italy is fantastic! Beautiful country! Oh well… my dream is moving there… this days i will apply for the Visa Diversity Program.. the Lottery. 11 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: My family, on my mother's side, is from Treviso. Enjoy the game and good luck developing that perfect spiral! Thanks man ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Be more specific on “fingers on the laces” (as per video above and how most of us throw it). If he puts four fingers on the laces, he’ll look goofy. There’s really only two fingers on the laces (ring finger and pinky). The remaining fingers are on the leather toward the end of the ball. When I throw, I have to keep my index finger on the point of the football. Otherwise, no spiral. But I have wonky wrist mechanics that I just couldn't fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Just watch Josh Allen and do what he does. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: Be more specific on “fingers on the laces” (as per video above and how most of us throw it). If he puts four fingers on the laces, he’ll look goofy. There’s really only two fingers on the laces (ring finger and pinky). The remaining fingers are on the leather toward the end of the ball. It depends how big his hand is so it's hard to tell someone you can't see how to hold the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Put the tips of your fingers along the laces on the football. Let the ball roll off the ends of your fingers as you throw. The idea is to impart a spin on the ball. If the ball is spinning tightly, it will go straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said: Now we understand his modest NFL career Throwing the ball wasn't his problem. JP could sling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 You’re probably pushing with your arm. You have to keep the wrist loose and allow your wrist and forearm to pronate. If you play tennis, it’s very similar to what your arm does as you pronate the racquet on the serve to get the strings to address the ball at the last split second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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