Big Blitz Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Soooo...the absent from practice due to "personal reasons"....lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 But the Jets are such a huge threat. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I was just chatting with my buddies about this. The Jets team is finally winning and you’re making noise about your usage? I’m sure gm’s are beating down the door. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 The 3rd (4th?) receiver on a team that never throws the ball is unhappy with his targets? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Dude has elite potential. I'd be more than happy to have him, but can't see the jets sending him to us under any circumstances. 5 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 15 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Shows how far the Jets have come developing their roster to squeeze this guy out. I've always liked him since his draft process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Dude has elite potential. I'd be more than happy to have him, but can't see the jets sending him to us under any circumstances. Maybe he has, but being this unhappy this early in the season raises a huge red flag imo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 He’s a great prospect, the Bills reportedly loved him coming out. He would blossom with Allen and upgrade the 3rd spot but the Jets will no way trade him to a divisional rival if at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Maybe he has, but being this unhappy this early in the season raises a huge red flag imo. It's business. If he doesn't get targets he can't hit incentives and won't be able to negotiate the contract he feels he deserves. Not much different than the Marquise Brown situation in Baltimore. The Jets could be ruining his career. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: It's business. If he doesn't get targets he can't hit incentives and won't be able to negotiate the contract he feels he deserves. Not much different than the Marquise Brown situation in Baltimore. The Jets could be ruining his career. Not true at all See Kirk, Christian. Teams know who has skill and they'll get paid. Moore may be 3rd on this team in targets the next 3 years but he'll still get paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Big Blitz said: Not true at all See Kirk, Christian. Teams know who has skill and they'll get paid. Moore may be 3rd on this team in targets the next 3 years but he'll still get paid. How is Kirk relevant? He had monster usage in AZ. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: How is Kirk relevant? He had monster usage in AZ. Monster usage? Absolutely not. Kirk targets by season: 2018: 68 2019: 108 2020: 78 2021: 103 Career high yards: 982 Next highest was 709 Edited October 20, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I would love him if we didn’t have Shakir 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 There is a guy to go after. Got a few years left on his rookie contract. Can’t see the Jets trading with us unless we well over value 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Dude has elite potential. I'd be more than happy to have him, but can't see the jets sending him to us under any circumstances. If the Jets are smart they’ll trade him to an NFC team. I don’t want to see him on Baltimore, KC or LAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Monster usage? Absolutely not. Kirk targets by season: 2018: 68 2019: 108 2020: 78 2021: 103 Career high yards: 982 Next highest was 709 Triple digit targets in 2/3 years isn't high to you? His production was certainly capped, but he had plenty of opportunities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Little Dirty and a 4th, with potential to be a 3rd rounder depending on play time/numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Ah. When “God’s plan” goes wrong. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 What happened to the other Jets WR that wanted out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3rd + Zack Moss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 It's a pretty bad look when you're a young player on a surprisingly good team and your response is wanting out because you personally aren't contributing much yet. Real competitors want to prove it on the winning team they're on, not jump ship to where they can get more snaps and looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Maybe he has, but being this unhappy this early in the season raises a huge red flag imo. I like Shakir growing into our 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I love turmoil on opponents teams, its the best, GO BILLS!!! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It's a pretty bad look when you're a young player on a surprisingly good team and your response is wanting out because you personally aren't contributing much yet. Real competitors want to prove it on the winning team they're on, not jump ship to where they can get more snaps and looks. Is that what your boss tells you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Is that what your boss tells you? I'm my boss. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I'm my boss. Even better. Weren't you happy enough winning as a team with everyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It's a pretty bad look when you're a young player on a surprisingly good team and your response is wanting out because you personally aren't contributing much yet. Real competitors want to prove it on the winning team they're on, not jump ship to where they can get more snaps and looks. That's not how high school or college athletics work anymore. If you aren't going to play you transfer to get playing time and exposure. If he isn't going to play he isn't going to get paid. This is his mindset. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr. Football said: I believe you’re kidding but it’s a business. They showed his Numbers with and without Zach Wilson last year and they are insane. Wilson is killing his future earnings. He’s a good player and would be perfect for us. And way better than trying to do the stupid flirt game with Beckham. But there’s no way the jets trade him to us. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I’m just spitballing here, but maybe being a WR on a team thats signature win had 10 more rushing attempts than passing attempts is a less than ideal situation. I mean. Zach Wilson was 10/18 for 110. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Considering that the Bills will probably draft a WR in the mid-rounds this year anyway, I'd offer third round value and see if they bite. That's probably overpaying a bit for a malcontent, but he does have talent and has played well at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Soooo...the absent from practice due to "personal reasons"....lol Guy has 16 receptions on 29 targets. 55% catch %. On pace for 500 yds. I'm sure GMs are ringing the phone off the hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Is that what your boss tells you? Let me put it to you this way. What teams currently need a #1 or #2 receiver? -who is only catching about half the balls thrown his way? Now, what teams need a #3 or #4 WR who has demonstrated he's going to piss n moan if he doesn't get more targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: I’m just spitballing here, but maybe being a WR on a team thats signature win had 10 more rushing attempts than passing attempts is a less than ideal situation. I mean. Zach Wilson was 10/18 for 110. It is a less than ideal situation, but this is NOT the way to handle your biz. Worry about how to catch more balls and get open more at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Let me put it to you this way. What teams currently need a #1 or #2 receiver? -who is only catching about half the balls thrown his way? Now, what teams need a #3 or #4 WR who has demonstrated he's going to piss n moan if he doesn't get more targets? Your post is confusing. Are you talking about 2 players? This isn't Keyshawn Johnson crying about targets, this is a player who is systematically phased out of the offense when another player is on the field. Also, I saw that he asked his boss to trade him, but I haven't seen anything from him in public. Is that really the bar for "piss n moan"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Your post is confusing. Are you talking about 2 players? This isn't Keyshawn Johnson crying about targets, this is a player who is systematically phased out of the offense when another player is on the field. Also, I saw that he asked his boss to trade him, but I haven't seen anything from him in public. Is that really the bar for "piss n moan"? The guy had 90% of the offensive snaps and 4 targets for 53 yds with Wilson at QB in week 4. He saw his snaps cut the following week. Maybe there's a performance-based reason for that and he should look in the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Trade crowder for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I would too if my QB was throwing less than 200 yards per game, 56% comp 1 TD to 2 INTs and got no targets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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