Big Turk Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge? How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things?? It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc) He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds. Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff?? Edited October 9, 2022 by Big Turk 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I'd guess that most of us knew the rule and were rolling our eyes, but that yes, you were the only one screaming. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Jim Nantz should stick to golf coverage. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 If that is the rule it’s another stupid one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 It's amazing. Not like it used to be, when the rule book was proprietary. You can go to nfl.com and download the pdf. Easy peasy. They're paid millions of dollars to announce a game and they can't even be bothered to read the rulebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Incompetents are everywhere in every sport my fellow bills fan Edited October 9, 2022 by Italian Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge? How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things?? It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc) He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds. Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff?? you’re way too concerned over this. They missed the call in real time. Big deal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon said: I'd guess that most of us knew the rule and were rolling our eyes, but that yes, you were the only one screaming. I get pretty animated during Bills games 🤣 Just now, JoPoy88 said: you’re way too concerned over this. They missed the call in real time. Big deal. No, then when they showed the replay they doubled down, which is where I was like seriously?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: I get pretty animated during Bills games 🤣 No, then when they showed the replay they doubled down, which is where I was like seriously?? dude. Whatever. So what. Christ. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: dude. Whatever. So what. Christ. Sorry...I take pride in doing my job and I don't make 17 million a year. Not sure why they can't take pride in theirs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Big Turk said: Sorry...I take pride in doing my job and I don't make 17 million a year. Not sure why they can't take pride in theirs. Sometimes people make mistakes on the job. I'm sure you've never left the fries in the fryer a bit too long. 🤷♂️ 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Simon said: Sometimes people make mistakes on the job. I'm sure you've never left the fries in the fryer a bit too long. 🤷♂️ Actually I haven't...never worked in a place with a fryer. May have forgot to comment a line of code before I pushed it up tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Sorry...I take pride in doing my job and I don't make 17 million a year. Not sure why they can't take pride in theirs. Well as George Costanza found out…they usually give those jobs to ex ball players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Sorry...I take pride in doing my job and I don't make 17 million a year. Not sure why they can't take pride in theirs. I love you Turk but this ain't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Tell ya George Pickens has best receiver in football kinda talent Greg Cosells favorite draft receiver and I could see why. What a player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: I love you Turk but this ain't it Haha, OK, I can be a little anal on some things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I was howling in anguish at what Romo was saying as the Bills were up 38-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Haha, OK, I can be a little anal on some things Eh Romo was on everyones nerves hyping up Pickett at the beginning of the game I think. Like is this a Bills home game or what? The talking up of the guy before he even threw a ball was nauseating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Tell ya George Pickens has best receiver in football kinda talent Greg Cosells favorite draft receiver and I could see why. What a player Was hoping he'd land in Buffalo, but we'll be more than happy with Shakir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge? How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things?? It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc) He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds. Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff?? My old A&P professor is going to ***** a brick when I tell him the hand is not considered a body part... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Actually I haven't...never worked in a place with a fryer. May have forgot to comment a line of code before I pushed it up tho. If you ever do, imo opinion it’s borderline impossible to leave the fries in too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 One hand = two feet. Stupid refs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, What a Tuel said: Eh Romo was on everyones nerves hyping up Pickett at the beginning of the game I think. Like is this a Bills home game or what? The talking up of the guy before he even threw a ball was nauseating. Ha, even a friend of mine who is a Steelers fan said it was over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Pickens was really good early on. The one thing I didn’t like was as the game got out of hand, he was running his routes half assed. Pickett and You are the future of Pittsburgh, run the routes with some conviction for your QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidiehard Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: One hand = two feet. Stupid refs That isn't the rule. One elbow, knee, shin, shoulder = 2 feet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge? How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things?? It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc) He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds. Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff?? Romo even went as far as saying the Steeler booth guys must not have been paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Simon said: Sometimes people make mistakes on the job. I'm sure you've never left the fries in the fryer a bit too long. 🤷♂️ I wouldn’t be too tough on Nantz, his mom just died. Difficult day of work for him today. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Romo even went as far as saying the Steeler booth guys must not have been paying attention. Yep - Romo was running a pretty dumb narrative until somebody got in his ear to tell him it was incomplete. Just absolutely butchered the call - at one point saying he got both feet down. The Bills stadium is also one of the better to see both live and on the booths - just a really bad day by Romo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge? How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things?? It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc) He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds. Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff?? That needs to be changed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: That needs to be changed. Nope because then on a run or catch - if the hand goes down - you would need to call the runner down by contact. They are very specific about the hands not counting to keep it consistent for balance checks on other plays where the hands hit the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: That needs to be changed. No it doesn't, it is correct. A wrist counts, a hand doesn't. Literally straight from the NFL rulebook: "b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; " https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/ In the Pickens example his hand hits, which doesn't count, then one foot and then his next body part is his elbow out of bounds. In college, that's a catch. Same with Diontae Johnson in the endzone, he got one foot in. In the NFL, nope. Edited October 10, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Haha, OK, I can be a little anal on some things All good man i get it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Was that the catch that caused the Steelers to take the lead and win the game? No? Ok, I'm not going to worry about it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Just Jack said: Was that the catch that caused the Steelers to take the lead and win the game? No? Ok, I'm not going to worry about it then. What's funny is that if this was a determining factor in the Bills losing or something, people would say the thread is just whining about the loss. This just goes to show we talk about literally everything on this forum, its far more active than most of the nfl team forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I've watched a ton of ball and don't know that I've seen this come up before, I didn't know. My first opinion was that it should be a rule change because it's a more athletic feat in a way... don't see any gimmicky way it could be used to game the system, just an athletic play.... But then I saw the down by contact argument and it makes more sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Big Turk said: Sorry...I take pride in doing my job and I don't make 17 million a year. Not sure why they can't take pride in theirs. Human perfection does not exist. Give it a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Pete said: One hand = two feet. Stupid refs Wrong. Read the rule book. A hand does not count in terms of being in bounds. It's two feet or any other body part excluding hands. Edited October 10, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) The refs appear to have gotten it correct. What I want to know is why is the rule written that way? Having watched the play it sure seems to me like that should be a catch. I wonder what circumstance the NFL foresaw that made them write the rule the way they did. Anybody? Edited October 10, 2022 by SoCal Deek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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