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Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Why is everyone always fretting over the Cap? $$$$ can be moved around all the time. 3 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: In other words, "make us your final offer" I like Devin (usually) and Cook looks encouraging after Packers game. However, we could use a power back. Hunt or Jacobs works for me Edited November 1, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: If we don’t make a trade, I think Duke would be our lead back if Motor went down. We had 2M cap room to start last offseason. We signed Von Miller, Daquan Jones, Tim Settle, Jordan Phillips, Shaq Lawson, Saffold, Quessenberry, Crowder, Howard and Mckenzie. Yes by restructuring contracts and allocating $3.25 million for Saffold & Phillips into void years in 2023. Which was my point, we'll be doing a bunch of that this offseason as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The only trades I'm truly interested in: 1. Safety - Hyde out and Poyer dealing with injuries...the year is too important to leave that to chance 2. Depth OL 3. Depth SLWR 4. Depth RB - not starting material necessarily, just someone that provides a good balance to Cook if Motor is injured. That's it and really only Safety is standing out a red flag alert. Everything else is just - gravy. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Yes by restructuring contracts and allocating $3.25 million for Saffold & Phillips into void years in 2023. Which was my point, we'll be doing a bunch of that this offseason as well. Ok, sorry. I thought you we insinuating that we can’t sign anyone because we don’t have the cap room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: I have no idea whether Singletary will be resigned after this year. I do know that there are an unbelievable number of very good running backs who will be on the market next year which will (1) depress the RB market and potentially make resigning Singletary economically feasible and (2) if we don't resign him, we should be able to sign a good back on the cheap to pair with Cook. I can see him coming back at a reasonable rate. It has been shocking how many have been deemed gone only to stay here. Roll with him, Cook, and a power replacement for Moss next year. 9 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: However, we could use a power back. Hunt or Jacobs works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Ok, sorry. I thought you we insinuating that we can’t sign anyone because we don’t have the cap room. No problem. The Saints have provided enough proof through the years that the salary cap is just a number. They were just $100 million over the cap and still made it work.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: No problem. The Saints have provided enough proof through the years that the salary cap is just a number. They were just $100 million over the cap and still made it work.😂 💯 we’ll eventually run into a brick wall, but if done right, could only really only affect us terribly in one season……while being one of the top 3-5 contenders for a decade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Yes by restructuring contracts and allocating $3.25 million for Saffold & Phillips into void years in 2023. Which was my point, we'll be doing a bunch of that this offseason as well. Yup. Converting Allen and Tre's salary to signing bonus creates like 25 million themselves. Can do similar things with a couple other guys. Greg Tompsett from twitter is great with the cap stuff and laid out a way that we could create 60 million in cap room (we wont do all of those things) and thats not even factoring in that the cap will likely go up more than the current projection. We are finneeeee money wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: In a way I'm a little frustrated by Cook's solid performance last night because it muddies the waters on how our RB stable is looking. Trading for a player like Hines or Hunt would make a ton of sense if we think Cook will mostly be a non-factor for the rest of the season. But was his performance last night for real? If so, no need to make any moves at RB. It's an interesting dilemma. I just think people are missing how this staff works with rookies when they can. They recognize most rookies play 10-13 games a season with several weeks of downtime in college - especially before bowl season. The Bills seem to work to allow as many rookies as possible to slowly work their way into playing time and when possible alternate or give them plays off - so they don’t hit the “Rookie Wall”. It also allows the Bills additional training and teaching time to ensure they are closer to being ready to handle the bigger games later. I think they have been slowly adding to cooks playing time and we will see that continue. I think the Bills were asking about RBs, but I do not believe either the CMC or the Kamara talks were anything beyond very preliminary questions to see if they could get a deal. I think the Bills are happier with the RB room than the fans are. We will see. Edited November 1, 2022 by Rochesterfan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: The only trades I'm truly interested in: 1. Safety - Hyde out and Poyer dealing with injuries...the year is too important to leave that to chance 2. Depth OL 3. Depth SLWR 4. Depth RB - not starting material necessarily, just someone that provides a good balance to Cook if Motor is injured. That's it and really only Safety is standing out a red flag alert. Everything else is just - gravy. 1- Dean Marlowe. His value went up after earning a starting spot and a win 2. Better with PS signings 3. OBJ if we are desperate 4. Duke Johnson is our depth but Hunt is reasonable to try to get for a 4th or 5th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Could use a cover linebacker or run stuffer for situations. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Yup. Converting Allen and Tre's salary to signing bonus creates like 25 million themselves. Can do similar things with a couple other guys. Greg Tompsett from twitter is great with the cap stuff and laid out a way that we could create 60 million in cap room (we wont do all of those things) and thats not even factoring in that the cap will likely go up more than the current projection. We are finneeeee money wise. I agree. Starting in 2024 the cap is going to start to go way up on a yearly basis. Plus if Apple or Google get in on the action it will start to skyrocket. Currently Apple is the leading candidate for Sunday Ticket and the NFL wants that to be a package deal to include a minority stake in NFL Media(Redzone, NFL Network & NFL.com) to increase revenue. Partnering with gambling sites has also brought in additional money that will only increase. As Beane said let the cap get to $500 million so I can keep buying good players lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Pretty important. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I agree. Starting in 2024 the cap is going to start to go way up on a yearly basis. Plus if Apple or Google get in on the action it will start to skyrocket. Currently Apple is the leading candidate for Sunday Ticket and the NFL wants that to be a package deal to include a minority stake in NFL Media(Redzone, NFL Network & NFL.com) to increase revenue. Partnering with gambling sites has also brought in additional money that will only increase. As Beane said let the cap get to $500 million so I can keep buying good players lol. That's what most people don't understand...cap will start going up after this year in reality since Amazon's $1B deal started this season. Will see steady, large increases over the next 4-5 years...by 2026-2027 cap should be over $300 million a year. People complaining about what the Bills are paying Josh in terms of cap costs will see that as one of the best bargains in the NFL by that time. 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Pretty important. Guess the Bills are kinda screwed...unless they restructure someone on their own team maybe? Edited November 1, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 As long as the Chiefs don't pull off a trade for someone like Bradley Chubb, I am fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Based on the cap space for next year(already over the cap) he'll be using most if not all of them. Already $7 million over the cap with only 38 players signed and a 1st round picks salary factored in. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2023/ That's a little deceiving as it doesn't account for a huge jump in cap space that is going to occur next year and every year after for the next 4-5 years due to new TV contracts kicking in. They are going to be fine. Cap will probably be somewhere between 240-245 million next year, if not closer to 250 million. Edited November 1, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Big Turk said: That's a little deceiving as it doesn't account for a huge jump in cap space that is going to occur next year and every year after for the next 4-5 years due to new TV contracts kicking in. They are going to be fine. Cap will probably be somewhere between 240-245 million next year, if not closer to 250 million. I think that will be the exact CAP number right there in 2023. Edited November 1, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 6:47 PM, Scott7975 said: You keep drafting good players to replace the cap casualties the team is going to lose. This is how solid organizations maintain their success, but it's something Bills fans are unaccustomed to. With Josh's contract kicking in next season and the deals to Dawkins, Tre, Knox, and Milano their available room for other extensions is limited. The price for being a better team is players want to get paid and expecting "hometown discounts" isn't likely in every case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Still saying Bills and RB...I would expect safety more at this point if Poyer is out for any length of time. Edited November 1, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopelessNJBuffaloFan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) I think the Deadline and the final Poyer injury status are going to go hand in hand. Even if we are going to make a trade, if it is bad news on Poyer, it would not help us replace him via Trade market. Edited November 1, 2022 by HopelessNJBuffaloFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Looks like Fins trying to get Kareem Hunt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Mafia Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Edited November 1, 2022 by Steel City Mafia 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aristocrat Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: hockenson? Yes please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Detroit would be moronic to trade Hock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Looks like Fins trying to get Kareem Hunt Haha that guy also claims the Bills are after TJ Hockenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I don't see Hunt as an upgrade and he's a dirtbag. I could see a move for Josh Jacobs or Hines. I am glad we don't have leaks anymore for the organization's sake, but I miss them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4pm needs to come and go. Hate hearing all these AFC competitors in "trade talks". Maybe it turns out for them in the coming years or maybe it doesn't, but adding any player can't possibly be a subtraction for THIS YEAR if the cost is NEXT YEARS draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, What a Tuel said: 4pm needs to come and go. Hate hearing all these AFC competitors in "trade talks". Maybe it turns out for them in the coming years or maybe it doesn't, but adding any player can't possibly be a subtraction for THIS YEAR if the cost is NEXT YEARS draft picks. But,it can saddle them with few picks and no cap. This spells massive mediocrity for years to come. None of those teams except the Chiefs are “all in” for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Detroit would be moronic to trade Hock. Let them be morons! That'd give us a great 2 TE set!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, clayboy54 said: But,it can saddle them with few picks and no cap. This spells massive mediocrity for years to come. None of those teams except the Chiefs are “all in” for this year. I think the Dolphins are absolutely all in. I think the entire organization is under win at all costs orders because Ross wants to punish the league for punishing him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 what would you offer for Hockenson? a 2nd and a 5th? Waive Sweeney for PS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Hockenson is under contract for around 9.4M next year, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: what would you offer for Hockenson? a 2nd and a 5th? Waive Sweeney for PS You forgot to include Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Let them be morons! That'd give us a great 2 TE set!!! I won’t argue that. But, I would never expect someone to trade a valuable asset like that unless they were getting massive compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Looks like Fins trying to get Kareem Hunt 12 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: This is a fake account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I don't see Hunt as an upgrade and he's a dirtbag. I could see a move for Josh Jacobs or Hines. I am glad we don't have leaks anymore for the organization's sake, but I miss them. Hunt is such a disgusting human. I have a hard time believing so many people want him on our football team. And while he's a good player I do agree that he is a bit overrated by fans (playing in an Andy Reid offense and then Stefanski's run heavy scheme with one of the league's best OL's). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Now this guy, who according to his Twitter profile is a "freelance beat writer covering the Miami Dolphins," has all of your hopes up although he's just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. This place will fly into a rage when unfounded rumors don't happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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