RenoNVBillsfan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Is anyone confused why Hodgins, who had a great Spring and preseason, is not activated to the 53 roster with obvious injuries (and alarming lack of production) from Davis and minimal output from Crowder? There may not be an open spot but is Kumerow even available? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, RenoNVBillsfan said: Is anyone confused why Hodgins, who had a great Spring and preseason, is not activated to the 53 roster with obvious injuries (and alarming lack of production) from Davis and minimal output from Crowder? There may not be an open spot but is Kumerow even available? Confused, no. Is it time? probably if Crowder is out for a while which seems likely. The Bills have thrown for more yards than all but one team, they are doing fine....3rd in yards, 5th in points total offense. Lets not panic. There is no emergency. Kumerow is out with a high ankle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I think Shakir might end up being a spark for us. This team is super stubborn sometimes but once he got in yesterday, he showed why he should have been out there all along. 6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I’m not confused. He’ll be brought up if WRs can’t go 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Yes, by all means bring in a Spring Camp God to spot that bum Gabe Davis. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, RenoNVBillsfan said: Is anyone confused why Hodgins, who had a great Spring and preseason, is not activated to the 53 roster with obvious injuries (and alarming lack of production) from Davis and minimal output from Crowder? There may not be an open spot but is Kumerow even available? Bottom line: no confusion at all to date, though the situation may change this week. Salient point: We've been running with 5 active WR per game, plus 5 RB and 2 TE. This is in contrast to last season when we typically had 6 WR active but only 4 RB/FB and 2 TE and likely reflects a philosophical shift on offense towards using an RB in the short passing game and away from an empty backfield with 5 WR. I think fundamentally as a former QB, Dorsey is just not a fan of the 5 WR set. But what it means is, with 6 WR on the roster, 1 WR will be inactive each week, and we won't see PS elevations unless more than 1 WR is injured. Shakir has been the low man on the totem pole, so with 1 WR per game injured (Davis for game 2, now Kumerow for game 4) he gets activated to fill out the 5, but there's no need to elevate a guy on from the PS. Remember that we can elevate only 2 PS players per game and each player can only be elevated 3x (new this year, used to be 2) before signing him to the roster. To date, with Oliver and Settle inactive for game 2, then Oliver and Phillips for game 3 and 4, our PS elevations have focused on DL with Bryant and Brewer elevated Wk 2, Emili and Brant for Wk 3, and Emili for Wk 4. Now for Week 5, we have Kumerow with a high ankle sprain and Crowder with an unknown foot injury. The fact that the Bills didn't IR Kumerow says they hope he's back earlier than 4 games. Obviously if Crowder goes on IR, we'll see a WR elevation from the PS or a signing - maybe 2 if McKenzie is in concussion protocol for any length of time. So Hodgins will likely get his reps with the 1's this week and have a chance to make his case. But to date, fundamentally, the Bills are saying they believe Davis on a bum ankle (that is clearly hampering him as a WR) is a better player for them than Hodgins on 2 healthy ankles. This is likely because of blocking. Kumerow and Davis are the best blocking WR on the team and it's not close. Crowder was a huge disappointment to me yesterday. He was pretty clearly "hearing footsteps" and not wanting to catch the ball and get his clock cleaned. Now there's a point that Josh made in an interview with Chris Simms, that if he's throwing the ball into a tight window where someone is double-covered it probably means he should be throwing it elsewhere, where someone is open, but he was under a lot of pressure yesterday so finding that guy is no easy feat. Plus, the Ravens (to me) seemed very good at playing a rather "zone like" man coverage, where the safeties were reading Josh's eyes and coming off their guy to double the target (if need be). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Of course... He almost made the final cut! He has great size and decent speed. And some other team can poach him at ANY time... Plus, we don't need some unsigned stiff. Bills need to get younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Depends. Crowder has been handling punt returns. McKenzie I think some kickoffs. Austin seems to be the likely replacement. If you want Shakir playing heavy snaps on offense I dont know that they want him pulling double duty in the return game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Always trying to come up with reasons not to play Hodgins play him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Mebbe, mebbe not. I'm thinking Tavon Austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: Mebbe, mebbe not. I'm thinking Tavon Austin. Austin will get called up to replace Crowder, imo. Hodgins will o my get the call if McKenzie can't go next week. Hope Lil Dirty doesn't have any lingering issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Everyone's coach and everyone's GM. Somehow, you all aren't making millions of dollars for any football teams. So weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, MJS said: Everyone's coach and everyone's GM. Somehow, you all aren't making millions of dollars for any football teams. So weird... You don't know that... Maybe one of us is McBeane's secret burner TBD account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said: Confused, no. Is it time? probably if Crowder is out for a while which seems likely. The Bills have thrown for more yards than all but one team, they are doing fine....3rd in yards, 5th in points total offense. Lets not panic. There is no emergency. Kumerow is out with a high ankle. Crowder has a broken ankle...pretty clear he will be out for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Nothing confusing at all about Hodgins not being on the 53. He’s not that good and doesn’t play ST. Mystery solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Yes, by all means bring in a Spring Camp God to spot that bum Gabe Davis. Exactly, being that Gabe “the chronic foot” Davis in need of down time…, that’s exactly why Hodgins is here, that and Crowder has been a bit disappointing as well as recently injured…, Shakir and Hodgins are in position to show their worth, Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Always trying to come up with reasons not to play Hodgins play him Maybe it is because they see what Hodgins is doing against the starting D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocoboy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 There's always one receiver that everyone sees as the next Hall-of-Famer-if-only-he-got-off-the-Practice-Squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 We need James cook to make an appearance. Would also like to see more Knox/Morris formations. Our run game blows…. Maybe that could spark the run game just a little bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, MJS said: Everyone's coach and everyone's GM. Somehow, you all aren't making millions of dollars for any football teams. So weird... I see, we now negate your thoughts and opinions on topics you opine on as well? Go Bills!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, RenoNVBillsfan said: Is anyone confused why Hodgins, who had a great Spring and preseason, is not activated to the 53 roster with obvious injuries (and alarming lack of production) from Davis and minimal output from Crowder? There may not be an open spot but is Kumerow even available? His special teams play is not on par with the other guys he competed with for those final two spots, he might come up now but Austin is the more obvious choice since he can return punts if it is only one guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Always trying to come up with reasons not to play Hodgins play him Reason #1: Bills staff don't think he's worth activating Reason #2: there is no reason #2 13 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Exactly, being that Gabe “the chronic foot” Davis in need of down time…, that’s exactly why Hodgins is here, that and Crowder has been a bit disappointing as well as recently injured…, Shakir and Hodgins are in position to show their worth, Go Bills!!! Gabe has taken 98% of snaps this season. He's fine. Throw him more balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, pocoboy said: There's always one receiver that everyone sees as the next Hall-of-Famer-if-only-he-got-off-the-Practice-Squad. Although not on the PS, That’s is a “similar” talking point folk took on Gabe Davis not that long ago, saying he hadn’t shown himself to be a real #2 wr, and wasn’t ready to take snaps from Sanders, and ya know, they were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said: Confused, no. Is it time? probably if Crowder is out for a while which seems likely. The Bills have thrown for more yards than all but one team, they are doing fine....3rd in yards, 5th in points total offense. Lets not panic. There is no emergency. Kumerow is out with a high ankle. no one is confused. crowder has a broken ankle. if we need to bring him down so be it. next man up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Reason #1: Bills staff don't think he's worth activating Reason #2: there is no reason #2 Gabe has taken 98% of snaps this season. He's fine. Throw him more balls. Gabe’s ankle is poop right now, bring up a guy to spell Gabe while he heals his chronic ankle problem. We’re not talking permanently replacing Gabe, it’s temporary, Is this so hard to grasp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I see, we now negate your thoughts and opinions on topics you opine on as well? Go Bills!!! Feel free, if you have a good case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Don Otreply said: Gabe’s ankle is poop right now, bring up a guy to spell Gabe while he heals his chronic ankle problem. We’re not talking permanently replacing Gabe, it’s temporary, Is this so hard to grasp? Are you asking me or the medical/coaching staff of the Bills? go yell at them and tell them about Gabe's poop ankle, the morons.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Gabe’s ankle is poop right now, bring up a guy to spell Gabe while he heals his chronic ankle problem. We’re not talking permanently replacing Gabe, it’s temporary, Is this so hard to grasp? Please don't grasp Gabe's ankle, it might become poopier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Could be time. We’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Look, the reason for Hodgins not making it is pretty simple: he doesn't have the track record and pedigree compared to the people who got onto a roster spot ahead of him. It's the same reason why 31 other teams didn't leap to grab him. That said, if Crowder is out indefinitely, and the other injuries to the position, I am not at all shocked if he gets the call up. He knows the system, we know what he can do and it fits the next man up mentality. But let's not be shocked if it takes a few games. I remember Shakir getting a call a few weeks back and whiffing bad on a block, but in week 4 we are oohing and ahhing over his play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Willing to bet Stevenson gets off the PUP list and back on the 53 before Hodgins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Willing to bet Stevenson gets off the PUP list and back on the 53 before Hodgins Other than being fast, has he shown much as a receiver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I hope not. I’d put Shakir in, then Kumerow, before calling Hodgins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Other than being fast, has he shown much as a receiver? Not really, but the Bills seem to love him as a returner(I am not sure why) and he brings a missing aspect of deep threat to the offense. He brings an added dimension that Hodgins doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 51 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Crowder has a broken ankle...pretty clear he will be out for a while OK but we did not know that until after the last game so no confusion on why Hodgins was not put on the active roster last week or previous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Gabe has taken 98% of snaps this season. He's fine. Throw him more balls. Something is not right with him as far as catching the ball. He was pretty bad in the Ravens game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Willing to bet Stevenson gets off the PUP list and back on the 53 before Hodgins I forgot about him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Duke Williams is available and I heard he needs some "fine" $$$ for situations north of the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Something is not right with him as far as catching the ball. He was pretty bad in the Ravens game He's caught 8 of 14 targets for 57%--his highest catch %. Zero drops listed after first 3 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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