Chaos Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 This is my list of my top 9, in no particular order. Not sure if I want to be put Tony Dungy, Marv Levy or John Madden in the last spot. Vince Lombardi Tom Landry Joe Gibbs Bill Parcells Bill Walsh Bill Belichek Paul Brown Chuck Noll Don Shula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 TBD Board members 😆 1 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) I don't have strong opinions about this stuff, and have no idea how you would rate these guys. Having said that, in my lifetime the best I have seen is Belichick, and before him it was Parcells. So in the era I am familiar with, those are 1 and 2. I remember Landry and guys like that but I was young. Edited October 1, 2022 by Nextmanup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Belicheat cheated and w/o Brady has a losing record 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Belicheat cheated and w/o Brady has a losing record If nothing else he deserves to have a * next to his name for all the ***** he's pulled. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Gibbs is the best I’ve seen. Look at his Super Bowl winning QB’s…pretty crazy. Then when he decides he’s done with NFL coaching he focuses on an extremely successful NASCAR team. Dude’s a legend. As much as I love Marv, he isn’t even sniffing the top ten. Sorry. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I don't have strong opinions about this stuff, and have no idea how you would rate these guys. Having said that, in my lifetime the best I have seen is Belichick, and before him it was Parcells. So in the era I am familiar with, those are 1 and 2. I remember Landry and guys like that but I was young. Success and Innovation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Rex Ryan. He got Mark Sanchez to the AFC championship 2 years in a row 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Belicheat cheated and w/o Brady has a losing record Belichick's defense won Brady a few of those rings. It wasn't Brady that shut down the Rams in the 13-3 win. And I think you can argue Belichick's defense showed up in a few other Super Bowls where Brady and their offense didn't. The Patriot's dynasty was more defense than offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Bills2022 said: Belichick's defense won Brady a few of those rings. It wasn't Brady that shut down the Rams in the 13-3 win. And I think you can argue Belichick's defense showed up in a few other Super Bowls where Brady and their offense didn't. The Patriot's dynasty was more defense than offense. Was that in the years he was recording other teams' practices? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Pretty good list. Of those choices for 10, I’d go with Madden. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Was that in the years he was recording other teams' practices? All I know is he won 5 Rings and we have won 0 rings. I honestly never felt cheated by the Patriots. They were just better than the Bills for all those years. The tide has turned but they owned the division for a long time. And it was their defense that was the biggest factor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Lombardi was a bum. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Chaos said: This is my list of my top 9, in no particular order. Not sure if I want to be put Tony Dungy, Marv Levy or John Madden in the last spot. Vince Lombardi Tom Landry Joe Gibbs Bill Parcells Bill Walsh Bill Belichek Paul Brown Chuck Noll Don Shula Gotdam Whippersnapper! 🤦♂️ Papa Bear George Halas Allie Sherman Don Coryell Hank Stram Curly Lambeau Edited October 1, 2022 by Chandler#81 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: All I know is he won 5 Rings and we have won 0 rings. I honestly never felt cheated by the Patriots. They were just better than the Bills for all those years. The tide has turned but they owned the division for a long time. And it was their defense that was the biggest factor. The question isn't whether the Patriots were better than the Bills during the drought, I mean who's ***** questioning that? It's who are the best coaches in NFL history and Belichick's cheating should absolutely be a knock against him. Edited October 1, 2022 by Warcodered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said: Gibbs is the best I’ve seen. Look at his Super Bowl winning QB’s…pretty crazy. Then when he decides he’s done with NFL coaching he focuses on an extremely successful NASCAR team. Dude’s a legend. As much as I love Marv, he isn’t even sniffing the top ten. Sorry. You can state accolades if all the OP lists. Paul Brown in his innovative mind and scheme and strategy, but Gibbs winning three SB’s with three different QB’s was nothing short of genius. Walsh changing the way the passing game is played. It’s a barstool argument so there are no right or wrong answers. this was a pretty good list. I’m just not old enough to know if a guy like Halas was great or not. He won a ton and lasted 50 years, so I assume he’d be on this list. 12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Gotdam Whippersnapper! 🤦♂️ Papa Bear George Halas Allie Sherman Don Coryell Hank Stram Curly Lambeau These are great additions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I might be tempted to add Bud Grant in somewhere but admittedly the lack of a football championship might make him a tougher case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Belicheat has no business on any top 10 list, cheatin' mutha *****a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Belicheat cheated and w/o Brady has a losing record There has never been an elite head coach who didn't have an elite QB. The only one close might be Parcells. You take the starting QBs away from the "best ever," coaches and they're very likely JAGs. You don't win 6 super bowls if you're not a great coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 No Dick Jauron? Mods, please delete this trash thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 10. Dick Jauron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: All I know is he won 5 Rings and we have won 0 rings. He has six rings, right? Unless I am missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 My order: 1. Lombardi 2. Paul Brown 3. Belicheat 4. Walsh 5. Parcells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) on my top list I would include Halas, Lambeau in the top 10 next level off the top of my head - not in order Andy Reid - regular season winning since 1999 - 5th best win % in histiry- coaching tree -1 super bowl win Tom Flores - 2 super bowl wins - 12 season but only 97-87 so at the bottom of the top Mike Shanahan - 2 super bowl wins, coaching tree Jimmy Johnson - 2 super bowls - 80-64 record Mike Tomlin - 1 super bowl win, 13 non-loosing seasons - 133-74 record George Seifert - 2 super bowl wins - 98-30 in SF John Harbaugh - 148-96 (. 607) - 1 loosing season in 13 years - 1 super bowl win Pete Carroll - 152–104–1 (.593) - 1 super bowl win Paul Holmgren - 1 super bowl win, coaching tree, Tom Coughlin - 2 super bowl win over Brady and coach Dungy and Bill Cowher - 1 super bowl - 66 and 62 percent win percent Sean Payton 1 super bowl, 63 win percent, next coach of the Cowboys ? zero super bowls: Marty Schot, Dan Reeves, Marv Levy as well interesting that George Allen has a winning percent of 72% - no super bowls - the future is now - Over the Hiil gang Edited October 1, 2022 by First Round Bust edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, chongli said: He has six rings, right? Unless I am missing something. Yes. 1 less than Brady. Just a typo. I am very aware of how many rings they both have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Belicheat cheated and w/o Brady has a losing record Most coaches without their star quarterback have a losing record lol He was the last coach to make the Browns relevant He literally took the Patriots to the playoffs last year with a rag arm quarterback and an overrated defense he’s the best coach of this generation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: Yes. 1 less than Brady. Just a typo. I am very aware of how many rings they both have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Actually Belichick has 8 SB rings, one more than everyone's suddenly beloved Tommy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Most coaches without their star quarterback have a losing record lol He was the last coach to make the Browns relevant He literally took the Patriots to the playoffs last year with a rag arm quarterback and an overrated defense he’s the best coach of this generation the Browns were so relevant that they left town Bledsoe a rag arm QB? —— 4 straight Super Bowl appearances how many coaches achieved that Edited October 1, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: the Browns were so relevant that they left town Bledsoe a rag arm QB? —— 4 straight Super Bowl appearances how many coaches achieved that Where do you get Drew Bledsoe out of this? Last year he coached a Average at best team to the playoffs… A rag arm quarterback in Mac Jones and a super overrated defense… He coached that to the playoffs He won 11 games with Matt Cassel as his starter … Coached the Browns to the playoffs Not to mention the tandem with him and Brady… Which started with shutting down the greatest show on turf He’s a defensive mastermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: I don't have strong opinions about this stuff, and have no idea how you would rate these guys. Having said that, in my lifetime the best I have seen is Belichick, and before him it was Parcells. So in the era I am familiar with, those are 1 and 2. I remember Landry and guys like that but I was young. I'd say Parcells. Like you said it is hard to judge, but Parcells didn't have a super QB. He did have a great, MVP level D-player though. Shula would be up there. Andy Reid. I don't know,I try to look at who was really good without a domiant QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I would add Dick Vermeil and Weeb Ewbank to the consideration for that 10th spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Where do you get Drew Bledsoe out of this? Belicheat went to the Pats when Drew was QB. The team was already playoff caliber when he got there Then there was the Tuck game that f’d the Raiders then it was PATRIOTIC to root for them after 9-11. Then there was Spygate do I need to keep listing them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Gugny said: There has never been an elite head coach who didn't have an elite QB. The only one close might be Parcells. You take the starting QBs away from the "best ever," coaches and they're very likely JAGs. You don't win 6 super bowls if you're not a great coach. I think that's fair But at the same time it's hard to ignore his record without Tom. Tom Brady covered up a lot of his mistakes/poor draft selections. Even in that 2012 year when they lost in the SB to the giants, they got to the SB with having the last ranked defence. BB supposed to be a defensive coach but Tom Brady somehow carried that team to a SB appearance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He’s a defensive mastermind That couldn’t stop Josh Allen last season barring 60 mile per hour winds He was so amazed he personally walked into the Bills locker room and had a chat with Josh. What is Tua’s record against BB? Edited October 1, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I can’t really comment on coaches before my time. For me it’s Bill Walsh (innovation) and Parcels (got it done without the best QB’s). Based on accomplishments Belichek has to be in the convo, but I wouldn’t take him over a prime Walsh or Parcels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Gugny said: There has never been an elite head coach who didn't have an elite QB. The only one close might be Parcells. You take the starting QBs away from the "best ever," coaches and they're very likely JAGs. You don't win 6 super bowls if you're not a great coach. the cheating helped The constant bending and breaking of the rules helped him too the Refs turning a blind eye also helped them. if you have to cheat to win. Are you really that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Most Super Bowl wins as head coach; 6 - Belicheat (Tom Brady x 6) 4 - Chuck Noll (Terry Bradshaw x 4) 3 - Bill Walsh (Joe Montana x 3) Joe Gibbs (Doug Williams, Joe Theismann, Mark Rypien) One of these coaches took a slightly different approach from the rest… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 you need great QB’s to win ? Explain how you Win with nobodies like Jeff Hosteler and Flacco and Dilfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: you need great QB’s to win ? Explain how you Win with nobodies like Jeff Hosteler and Flacco and Dilfer Incredible, elite Defenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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