YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Haha— probably Wilkins’s face mask…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 was wondering if this was why the ball short hopped to McKenzie 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Beach said: was wondering if this was why the ball short hopped to McKenzie short hopped it because he hesitated... you can see him do quick double pump which threw off his mechanics. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, DasNootz said: short hopped it because he hesitated... you can see him do quick double pump which threw off his mechanics. It happens. It happened on Monday night for apparently no reason at all. Mahomes has done the same. But today I can't help but think he was gassed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beach said: was wondering if this was why the ball short hopped to McKenzie Bad foot work there as he never steppedinto it you can see a bad base had nothing to do with the hand imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, DasNootz said: short hopped it because he hesitated... you can see him do quick double pump which threw off his mechanics. Yes! His footwork was all messed up on that one. He still does that now and again, though by and large, he has improved tremendously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Thank god the hand is fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: It happens. It happened on Monday night for apparently no reason at all. Mahomes has done the same. But today I can't help but think he was gassed. For how hard he worked today I have to think Allen had to have some heat/fatigue/dehydration issues. Certainly could’ve affected his mechanics. The pressure he was seeing couldn’t have helped him either. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 After Micah I don’t trust anything. We’ll see. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Beach said: was wondering if this was why the ball short hopped to McKenzie Mahomes would have thrown it with his left hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Well thank God Josh has no hand injury, apparently. If only we could eliminate some of the other injuries as easily! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 It seemed like his passes were floating a bit late in the game. Not the same zip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, DasNootz said: short hopped it because he hesitated... you can see him do quick double pump which threw off his mechanics. 6 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Bad foot work there as he never steppedinto it you can see a bad base had nothing to do with the hand imo 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Yes! His footwork was all messed up on that one. He still does that now and again, though by and large, he has improved tremendously. Looked like his left foot slide as he was trying to plant it to me from the replay. Any which way, sucks he missed it but happy his hand is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Micah Hide was "good too". We have been brutally hit with injuries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RyanC883 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 he won't keep being okay if we don't fix this disaster of an OL. They sucked from the first play. Terrible job by Bean getting enough guys to protect JA. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: he won't keep being okay if we don't fix this disaster of an OL. They sucked from the first play. Terrible job by Bean getting enough guys to protect JA. You realize three starters and one top back up were out of the game (and one sitting out on suspension) right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 might have been worn out from 63 pass attempts and 8 carries plus got punched in the junk by Wilkins Think the Bills Dolphins rivalry just got notched back up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, CSBill said: You realize three starters and one top back up were out of the game (and one sitting out on suspension) right? Bobby Hart was not going to make a difference. And yeah, I realized that we had starters out. We totally lack depth. We were hemorrhaging QB pressure against a DL that had none prior to today. If we didn't have Allen, I don't think we score 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: Agreed. Normally his zip on the ball is very noticeable. I think it was fatigue Lack depth? Where do you trolls come from I’ll never know. The bills were playing PS players you dolt. trolls? Dude, you have 415 posts, so knock it off with the troll comment stuff. Nice job of debating the actual substance of what I said, the OL lacks depth. It does. Van Rotten was awful before getting hurt. We were letting pressure and sacks before the in-game injuries. Edited September 26, 2022 by RyanC883 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Given its Allen saying this, and not a text to someone about it, I’m sure he’s fine. His arm was definitely fatigued towards the end. Which.. obviously. We do need to develop some semblance of a running game though. It can’t be 2nd and 9 every time we run on first down. Especially against a team blitzing every play. The run game we saw against LA has turned right back into the Daboll scheme these past two games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bobby Hart was not going to make a difference. And yeah, I realized that we had starters out. We totally lack depth. We were hemorrhaging QB pressure against a DL that had none prior to today. If we didn't have Allen, I don't think we score 10. Uh...no team has enough depth to play 4 backups, some of whom are playing positions they never played before(like Doyle playing guard) and a 3rd string center. Just ridiculous. Edited September 26, 2022 by Big Turk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: It happens. It happened on Monday night for apparently no reason at all. Mahomes has done the same. But today I can't help but think he was gassed. Good observation…. He hesitates when he gets harassed all game long & the pocket is not kept clean. Of course as we all know, the heat did not help either. Morse has been quoted as saying “”It’s (the o line) our responsibility to keep the pocket clean for Josh, that way he can settle down & get into a rhythm.” the value of Mitch Morse was definitely highlighted today 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: It happens. It happened on Monday night for apparently no reason at all. Mahomes has done the same. But today I can't help but think he was gassed. I thought he was exhausted. I kept looking at his face late in the game, and he looked like he was struggling. And when he had his head on Tua's shoulder, he looked wiped out, too. When you're in that physical condition, it's tough to maintain your discipline, your mechanics, your concentration, all of it. He was not at his best at the end. He fought, tenaciously, but he couldn't do magic at the level he usually can. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said: For how hard he worked today I have to think Allen had to have some heat/fatigue/dehydration issues. Certainly could’ve affected his mechanics. The pressure he was seeing couldn’t have helped him either. This is how I see it too, and maybe some pain from the hand hit limited him also 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 5 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: might have been worn out from 63 pass attempts and 8 carries plus got punched in the junk by Wilkins Think the Bills Dolphins rivalry just got notched back up He was exhausted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 hours ago, RyanC883 said: trolls? Dude, you have 415 posts, so knock it off with the troll comment stuff. Nice job of debating the actual substance of what I said, the OL lacks depth. It does. Van Rotten was awful before getting hurt. We were letting pressure and sacks before the in-game injuries. So who from the other parts of the team do we cut to get better depth at OL? There is only so much money to go around. Had they focused more on OL and less on receivers you would have complained about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Bobby Hart was not going to make a difference. Normally, as in every single other game, I would agree with this, but he was another potential body in an awful war of o-line attrition today. This was like the one game Bobby Hart could have possibly helped out. His stupidity is an underrated reason for some of our issues today. If he's truly that bad in addition to being stupid, then why in the world is he taking up a spot? Get rid of him for any other journeyman D grade body that doesn't punch opposing coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Nelius said: Normally, as in every single other game, I would agree with this, but he was another potential body in an awful war of o-line attrition today. This was like the one game Bobby Hart could have possibly helped out. His stupidity is an underrated reason for some of our issues today. If he's truly that bad in addition to being stupid, then why in the world is he taking up a spot? Get rid of him for any other journeyman D grade body that doesn't punch opposing coaches. Well, I don't know if he would have made a difference in the game, but you're absolutely right. I don't know exactly how McDermott handles these things - player stupidity that hurts the team - but I'm pretty sure that one way or another, someone is going to talk to him about the level of behavior that's necessary, every day, to make yourself the best and to contribute to your team. As Hart looks back, he can see how his behavior hurt the team. McDermott is forgiving, if you're actually always working the growth mindset, working to get better and make the team better. Hart watched the game yesterday and he knew he had hurt the team. We'll see how he responds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jauronimo Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 15 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: might have been worn out from 63 pass attempts and 8 carries plus got punched in the junk by Wilkins Think the Bills Dolphins rivalry just got notched back up It got notched up like the New England rivalry did after they temporarily won the division after playing in hurricane force winds. A few weeks later and it was clear there is no rivalry after two vicious beatings. I think this one plays out similarly but we will have to wait a bit longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 57 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: It got notched up like the New England rivalry did after they temporarily won the division after playing in hurricane force winds. A few weeks later and it was clear there is no rivalry after two vicious beatings. I think this one plays out similarly but we will have to wait a bit longer. If Trey can get close to his former ability this year & Dane comes back, while Poyer develops Jacquan & our interior D line returns & the right side of our O line returns & our starting center comes back & our WR2 is at full strength….things might be different 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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