skibum Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Gotta make room for Gronk. 4 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: anybody else not sold on Cook? gotta keep him given his draft position but doesn't seem to have the Bills "culture" Beane spoke of. He's a good kid. Only thing I have against him is that Beane spent a 2nd round pick on a running back. That's against my policy. Now Blackshear looks better. 1 2 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Why do you say that? seems dumb as a rock. I didn't like his response to being drafted by the Bills. That said, he might be Adrian Peterson reincarnate. I hope so. Don't see him as the next Freddie Edited August 30, 2022 by redtail hawk 3 7 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I thought Wydermeyer could turn into something. I don't understand why they cut him so early when we got a fistful of Olinemen who were never going to make it and are gonna be gone. The Pats will probably make him a star. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: anybody else not sold on Cook? gotta keep him given his draft position but doesn't seem to have the Bills "culture" Beane spoke of. huh? based on what evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Howard is a horrendous move all over. If we’re going to bring in a third TE, or just go with Knox and Morris, then just about ok though the cap hit isn’t good. If we keep Sweeney ahead of him considering his weaknesses and cap hit difference, it’s bizarre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Gross… Sweeney makes the team? He ***** blows. They love their locker room guys… even if they suck on the field. Tommy Sweeney is this generation's Chris Kelsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Not disappointed. They are prioritizing actual play over cap hit. Keeping him would ignore his performance and would not make the team better. Edited August 30, 2022 by YoloinOhio 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, nosejob said: I thought Wydermeyer could turn into something. I don't understand why they cut him so early when we got a fistful of Olinemen who were never going to make it and are gonna be gone. The Pats will probably make him a star. Doubtful. Oh, sorry. Wydermeyer. 🙁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, zevo said: huh? based on what evidence? just a feeling but I never liked Phil Mickelson either. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I agree, but I thought Dorsey's offense was supposed to feature more 2 TE sets. Gilliam was playing TE in camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Been trending that way. He has been very disappointing and they have had Quintin Morris on the field with the 1s ahead of him. I was told by a well informed source from another team that the Bills had called teams to guage trade interest and had no bites. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, skibum said: Gotta make room for Gronk. No Zach Ertz trade coming in 3-2-1.. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Gross… Sweeney makes the team? He ***** blows. They love their locker room guys… even if they suck on the field. Tbf Howard has sucked on the field too. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: seems dumb as a rock. I didn't like his response to being drafted by the Bills. That said, he might be Adrian Peterson reincarnate. I hope so. Don't see him as the next Freddie Rehashing his subdued response when drafted? Been discussed here ad nauseum. Nope, kid wants to be here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: anybody else not sold on Cook? gotta keep him given his draft position but doesn't seem to have the Bills "culture" Beane spoke of. Based on whaaaaat? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: No Zach Ertz trade coming in 3-2-1.. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Gilliam was playing TE in camp Didn't Dorsey say exactly the opposite? That he is just FB in his offense? I might have misread something. 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not disappointed. They are prioritizing actual play over cap hit. Keeping him would ignore his performance and would not make the team better. That's all good Yolo. If he sucks I am fine with keeping better players. I just think this is a huge huge miss on Beane's part. $3M dead cap is a lot for a player without a snap for the Bills. I know nobody sees the future and I will keep assessing Beane based on his overall work but this one hurts. More than any of his moves in recent memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Howard's done nothing his entire career 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Tbf Howard has sucked on the field too. I’m not at all convinced that Sweeney makes the team. Gilliam was lining up as TE3 at camp. If he can play Hback/FB/TE3 they can roll with Knox and Morris (who earned the TE2 spot fair and square imo) and potentially keep 7 WR. There is no reason to keep Howard on name alone or because they gave him too much money. Take the lumps on the cap side, not the field. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Duke Johnson released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: Based on whaaaaat? he seems “dumb as a rock” according to redtail apparently 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, ScottLaw said: Agree… With Howard being cut, their only significant offensive FA added to the off-season was an aging Roger Saffold. 😅 One things for sure, you’ll complain regardless of who is signed or cut. Always something 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: anybody else not sold on Cook? gotta keep him given his draft position but doesn't seem to have the Bills "culture" Beane spoke of. Are you saying this based on the response on draft night? I think it might be a little judgmental on your part to say this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I’m not at all convinced that Sweeney makes the team. Gilliam was lining up as TE3 at camp. If he can play Hback/FB/TE3 they can roll with Knox and Morris (who earned the TE2 spot fair and square imo) and potentially keep 7 WR. There is no reason to keep Howard on name alone or because they gave him too much money. Take the lumps on the cap side, not the field. Right, and it’s not like Sweeney is a great blocker. Morris and Gilliam can play formations and are better blockers than Sweeney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: seems dumb as a rock. I didn't like his response to being drafted by the Bills. That said, he might be Adrian Peterson reincarnate. I hope so. Don't see him as the next Freddie Ita too early to be drinking lol go 2 bed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: seems dumb as a rock. I didn't like his response to being drafted by the Bills. That said, he might be Adrian Peterson reincarnate. I hope so. Don't see him as the next Freddie Projection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: anybody else not sold on Cook? gotta keep him given his draft position but doesn't seem to have the Bills "culture" Beane spoke of. This comment seems completely out of left field - what exactly about Cook makes you think this? (It's also a little laughable any more pointing to culture after the events of the last week.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: he seems “dumb as a rock” according to redtail apparently He clearly never read his books on particle displacement and time travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Agree… With Howard being cut, their only significant offensive FA added to the off-season was an aging Roger Saffold. 😅 I am as disappointed as you. I liked the Howard pick up as a low risk, high reward offensive piece and I am really disappointed it has failed. In terms of passing targets for Josh it is really Sanders and Beasley out, Crowder (low ceiling vet), Shakir (5th round rookie) and Cook (2nd round rookie receiving back) in. Have they done enough? Only time will tell but it is a legit question to ask. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, whorlnut said: Are you saying this based on the response on draft night? I think it might be a little judgmental on your part to say this. yes, no one else is judgmental here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Guess this explains why Howard couldn’t land a deal with a team he wanted to play for in the first place. I’m kinda surprised he didn’t have much to offer, but he really looks washed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: just a feeling but I never liked Phil Mickelson either. I see you're doubling down - keeping digging yourself a bigger hole 14 posts Edited August 30, 2022 by BuffaninSarasota add 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Didn't Dorsey say exactly the opposite? That he is just FB in his offense? I might have misread something. That's all good Yolo. If he sucks I am fine with keeping better players. I just think this is a huge huge miss on Beane's part. $3M dead cap is a lot for a player without a snap for the Bills. I know nobody sees the future and I will keep assessing Beane based on his overall work but this one hurts. More than any of his moves in recent memory. I don’t know what Dorsey said but he was lining up at TE, which he has in the past as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 This is less surprising than the Jacob Hollister cut last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am as disappointed as you. I liked the Howard pick up as a low risk, high reward offensive piece and I am really disappointed it has failed. In terms of passing targets for Josh it is really Sanders and Beasley out, Crowder (low ceiling vet), Shakir (5th round rookie) and Cook (2nd round rookie receiving back) in. Have they done enough? Only time will tell but it is a legit question to ask. As I said upthread I was really looking forward to that 12 personnel mismatch. That 11th player on the field really should be your chess piece and thought Howard was going to do that. I still think they have some nice mismatch pieces. McKenzie for his speed out of the slot. I think Cook would be a good mismatch in 2 RB sets. It would just have been nice to have a mismatch with double TEs. EDIT: Oh and I like the mismatch Davis gives if they bump him inside to the slot and put Shakir outside. Edited August 30, 2022 by Wayne Cubed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Howard has to be one of the biggest disappointments in my mind. I thought maybe he could be a sneaky good signing who could thrive and revive his career with Josh.. but the contract looks about horrible as his performance.. I think Duke became a long shot to make this team when Cook was drafted. why is sneaky a term being overused now? There's nothing sneaky about Howard. He's done nothing his entire career 26 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: anybody else not sold on Cook? gotta keep him given his draft position but doesn't seem to have the Bills "culture" Beane spoke of. what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am as disappointed as you. I liked the Howard pick up as a low risk, high reward offensive piece and I am really disappointed it has failed. In terms of passing targets for Josh it is really Sanders and Beasley out, Crowder (low ceiling vet), Shakir (5th round rookie) and Cook (2nd round rookie receiving back) in. Have they done enough? Only time will tell but it is a legit question to ask. We had one of the best offenses in the league and didn't lose anyone besides Cole, who was on his way out anyways. We invested with two rookies that seem to be solid pickups, and a savvy vet WR in Crowder in case McKenzie isn't up to snuff. I'm really not worried. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Tanner Gentry cut 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: yes, no one else is judgmental here. Saying a guy doesn’t fit the culture based on assuming something is pretty sad. Did it ever occur to you thats just how he might be? What? He doesn’t fit the “culture” because he’s laid back? Wow…carry on… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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