BADOLBILZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsVet said: I'm concerned he's not going to make the roster. Buffalo is so deep at WR, especially, Marquez Stevenson, Isaiah Hodgins and Jake Kumerow already. Yeah it was made clear on Thursday night by our esteemed TSW Opinion Control Managers that any pick in the 4th round or later was pretty much worthless? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, JMM said: That's a nice thought but actually since our roster is so loaded most UFA'S are more likely to sign elsewhere where they will think they have a better chance of sticking True. Cannot wait to see what they do in 6th coming up with 3 more picks and 2 in the top 8 of the 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Wrong Khalil AGAIN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Bills Offense Skill Positions Depth Chart: RB: Singletary Cook Duke Moss WR: Diggs Davis Crowder McKenzie Shakir Stevenson Kummerow Hodgins TE: Knox Howard Sweeney You forgot Taiwan Jones at RB. He's likely on the team. That's 4 RBs. Do we keep 7 WRs like last year? We aren't keeping 8. Like Jones, Touchdown Jesus is on the team for ST ability. I wonder if Stevenson and Hodgins get cut. Possibility of stashing on the PS. I don't know how Crowder's or McKenzie contracts work but I don't think either are roster locks. Sweeney is probably gone. You forgot Quentin Morris at FB/TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Bold crystal ball work their... considering he has not played an ounce of NFL yet Yep and I also have a 3rd round grade on him too. What have those three really done in the NFL (Hodgins, Stevenson and Kumerow). Side Note Kumerow should just transition to TE. Edited April 30, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Last Guy on the Bench said: Agreed. And my big hope is that Hodgins is fully healthy and can nail down the final spot as a legit outside (though not speed) guy, passing both Kumerow and Stevenson. Really liked him as a draft pick, and it sounds like he has impressed in camp, but just had too many injuries. Who knows, though? I also wonder if they will really keep all three slot-type guys - Crowder, McKenzie, Shakir. Could well be, but could one of them possibly be cut? Hodgins might be the big possession receiver kind of like we used David Nelson back in the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I also do not have him graded in 4-7. In reality my grade on him was end of Round 3. And you can see me calling his name in the Round 2 thread. Ok Bobby... I have a lot of respect for you... but i have way more respect for all the nfl scouting, GM's and Coaching in deciding what rounds these guys go... then you... You have him graded in round 3... who else has this dude graded round 3? and if so why did he slip 2 rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Freddie's Dead Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: OW!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yep and I also have a 3rd round grade on him too. What have those three really done in the NFL (Hodgins, Stevenson and Kumerow) YOU do who else grades him at 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: If he can't beat out Hodgins and Kumerow we're in trouble. It speaks to the superior depth though. Beane was wise enough to bring back Kumerow and he's played real NFL minutes. And then there's Stevenson who might be the fastest guy next to Tyreek Hill and is a true sleeper with returner ability. He was picked in the 6th round last year. Not to mention, people are already forgetting Hodgins, a 2020 6th. Those guys are McBeane picks too who haven't had their time to shine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Like this a lot. Good consolation prize for missing out on skyy moore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsVet said: It speaks to the superior depth though. Beane was wise enough to bring back Kumerow and he's played real NFL minutes. And then there's Stevenson who might be the fastest guy next to Tyreek Hill and is a true sleeper with returner ability. He was picked in the 6th round last year. Not to mention, people are already forgetting Hodgins, a 2020 6th. Those guys are McBeane picks too who haven't had their time to shine. Stevenson was not good last year and appeared much slower than expected. He will need a strong camp to make this roster 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Ok Bobby... I have a lot of respect for you... but i have way more respect for all the nfl scouting, GM's and Coaching in deciding what rounds these guys go... then you... You have him graded in round 3... who else has this dude graded round 3? and if so why did he slip 2 rounds? There are many scouting reports you can see that have him ranging from rounds 3 to 5. But I also grade my own and I know I am on outside looking in and do not have all the data these teams do. So there are many reasons he could go different from where I think. Like Cook. If he wasn’t a RB he would not get discounted from me. Things like that. But honestly if you do look at the round 2 thread I started saying his name. 5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: YOU do who else grades him at 3? Sure Nate Tice had him as HIS 43rd overall player. Is one. another Source https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2022/khalil-shakir Edited April 30, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: There are many scouting reports you can see that have him ranging from rounds 3 to 5. But I also grade my own and I know I am on outside looking in and do not have all the data these teams do. So there are many reasons he could go different from where I think. Like Cook. If he wasn’t a RB he would not get discounted from me. Things like that. But honestly if you do look at the round 2 thread I started saying his name. yea ... i did research of my own... no way he is a third rounder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, chris heff said: They were interviewing Jets GM at the time, NFL Network was in commercial. To my knowledge neither has mentioned it. ESPN revisited the pick sfter the interview apparently; according to NFLN it never happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Stevenson already a goner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Stevenson was not good last year and appeared much slower than expected. He will need a strong camp to make this roster Of course, but you can't teach speed nor is there anyone on that roster who can get deep the way people are hyped about Stevenson. He might be last year's sleeper the way Shakir is this year's sleeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: You forgot Taiwan Jones at RB. He's likely on the team. That's 4 RBs. Do we keep 7 WRs like last year? We aren't keeping 8. Like Jones, Touchdown Jesus is on the team for ST ability. I wonder if Stevenson and Hodgins get cut. Possibility of stashing on the PS. I don't know how Crowder's or McKenzie contracts work but I don't think either are roster locks. Sweeney is probably gone. You forgot Quentin Morris at FB/TE. I know - Jones is a lock just wanted to keep it at offense only. Kumerow is a lock to. I think Moss, Stevenson, and Hodgins are in serious trouble. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Nice essentially got a 4th rounder here in value! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said: Agreed. And my big hope is that Hodgins is fully healthy and can nail down the final spot as a legit outside (though not speed) guy, passing both Kumerow and Stevenson. Really liked him as a draft pick, and it sounds like he has impressed in camp, but just had too many injuries. Who knows, though? I also wonder if they will really keep all three slot-type guys - Crowder, McKenzie, Shakir. Could well be, but could one of them possibly be cut? McKenzie can play in the slot, but is more of a Swiss army knife gadget guy. We know that Daboll loved him for all those traits. It remains to be seen if Dorsey will utilize these talents, but he is unique on the team. If Shakir shows real potential in the P/KR game, that would go a long way in securing a position on the 53, and I see no reason not to keep all three. Be that as it may, I have to believe that Hodgins has an uphill climb to break into the 53. Edited April 30, 2022 by Rocky Landing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: yea ... i did research of my own... no way he is a third rounder... Cool. You didn’t grade him that high. There are disagreements all over about all players. Just like with The Teams and their Real Scouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: he got both feet down too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Love this pick! He was a guy I thought we could target in rounds 3 or 4 heading into draft if we didn’t go WR early. Man, I can not wait to see this offense this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Bill Belichick when the pick was announced... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Ok Bobby... I have a lot of respect for you... but i have way more respect for all the nfl scouting, GM's and Coaching in deciding what rounds these guys go... then you... You have him graded in round 3... who else has this dude graded round 3? and if so why did he slip 2 rounds? Why is that even remotely important? if you’re that curious, do your own research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: I know - Jones is a lock just wanted to keep it at offense only. Kumerow is a lock to. I think Moss, Stevenson, and Hodgins are in serious trouble. I think we're going to end up with some pretty good players on our PS this season and other teams will poach throughout the year. As much hate as Stevenson gets I hope we can stash him on there because I do still think he has potential to develop into a good depth WR and our PR/KR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: YOU do who else grades him at 3? He was no. 89 on the big board consolidated from PFF, PFN, The Athletic, Tankathon, ESPN a Daniel Jeremiah's big boards. So consensus was he is a late 3rd round guy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Kumerow played 269 snaps on teams last year, Third Generation NFL Player, suspect he will be a core special teamer, and 6-4 is a nice target in the red zone. If I were a WR/Returner with a history of putting the ball on the ground; I might be a little worried with the addition of Mr. Shakir. He's also a California guy, so you know he will be happy to play catch with JA17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Next Name to watch for Jamaree Salyer. IOL that can play all three IOL positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Cool. You didn’t grade him that high. There are disagreements all over about all players. Just like with The Teams and their Real Scouts. Right but i am not using a crystal ball infront of me and saying a 4th or 5th grade player(I trust experts more then you) is going to be better then what we have... That is serious crystal ball work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: Nice essentially got a 4th rounder here in value! Some had him graded as a 3rd or even a 2nd...basically he could be our 3rd WR from day 1 if we didn't have Crowder and MacKenzie...probably will ease him in but don't be surprised to see him taking snaps from those guys later in the year. Edited April 30, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: I’m a fan of this for a fifth round pick! I really like this pick as well. Think it's great value and Beane used one of his 6th round picks as collateral. Very nice move. Then again wtf do I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 All that hand-wringing. BTW, on NFL.com, under "pick analysis," it talks about the Bears and what he can do for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Too many drops, I would not trust him in the return game or 3rd downs. I see him on the PS this year with a small possibility of making the team next year. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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