Doc Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Then sign Sammy Watkins... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: Beane never likes to go into a draft with a whole in the roster. Our CB position is the last glaring need in our roster. Levi is gone and there's a good chance Tre won't be finished rehabing his knee before the start of the season. The available free agent CBs are getting pretty thin; Gilmore, Joe Hayden, Kyle Fuller, Patrick Peterson, Xavier Rhodes, Tavon Young, Chris Harris, Janoris Jenkins are still out there. Of all those guys I think Gilmore has the most juice left. He is coming off that big contract with the Pats that was paying him $10+ million a year and then signed with the Panthers last year for just $7 million. I'm sure he is looking for another big multi-year deal but he may not get one. If he doesn't, he might be willing to bite on a one year prove it deal in Buffalo and then look to cash in next year. Buffalo would be an ideal spot for a one year prove it deal. He would likely be playing on a team with a lead in the 4th quarter with opposing QBs pressing to score some points. He would also likely be lined up on the opponent's WR2 when Tre gets back. That sounds like a great situation to start stacking some interceptions. I know a lot of people here don't like Gilmore because of how he left Buffalo, but that was with the old regime, and honestly, the old regime was a dumpster fire and I don't blame him for wanting to go to a real franchise. If Beane can swing a one year deal on Gilmore I think that would put us over the top. A secondary of Tre, Gilmore, Poyer, Hyde, and Taron Johnson would be scary. A one year $8-10 million fully guaranteed contract and a chance at a Super Bowl just might just get it done. Ingo, forget it. I don't think he wanted to play in Buffalo when he got drafted. The body language at that time pretty much showed it. I think he already planned to just play in Buffalo until his initial contract period was over & sign with a contending play off team and get out of Buffalo. Just my opinion. 9 hours ago, MJS said: No thanks. And that's exactly what Gilmore would say too. He has no interest in returning to Buffalo. Copy that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Dude's a bum. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I would prefer to continue my irrational dislike for him thank you very much... 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I’m Happy w/o Gilmore 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Gonna have to explain to me how you can be pro Gronk but anti-Gilmore 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 would rather have a CB that can tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Nah. $$. The big move was Miller. More smaller ones could happen. Edited March 22, 2022 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I can "WTF arms" on my own. I learned by watching him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I get it but unless he's willing to play for a vet minimum contract no thanks ! Diggs & company schooled him last season had him turned around every which way i would think they can find a good CB in the draft for less cash they say there are some good one this year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) On 3/21/2022 at 2:03 PM, Inigo Montoya said: You guys may be right. But looking at his last four seasons he hasn't been making as much money as I expected he would. According to Over the Cap he has made 9, 10, 14, and 7 million dollars over the last four seasons. When you look at those numbers a fully guaranteed $10 million isn't that unreasonable. https://overthecap.com/player/stephon-gilmore/255/ His NE contract was front loaded. The reason he was let go there is he was whining that he was being underpaid. He clearly believes he should be paid as an elite corner. I am not sure he will get it, but I am sure he will go wherever the most money is. That will not be Buffalo, even assuming they would want him back, which I doubt. Edited March 23, 2022 by FLFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 4:40 PM, filthymcnasty08 said: Cover skills aside, he never wanted to be here the first time. Dude celebrated on social media in our faces the day he went to our most bitter rival. For me, it goes all the way to draft night where he didn't even crack a smile at the podium as a top 10 draft pick in the NFL draft. I just watched the draft night video again selecting Gilmore. You're right. Walking to the electric chair expression came to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 12:57 PM, nucci said: do people really kick the tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I feel like it's gonna be Steven Nelson. We've had prior interest. He will hopefully come cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 ***** No Gilmore is not welcome in Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, PonyBoy said: I just watched the draft night video again selecting Gilmore. You're right. Walking to the electric chair expression came to mind. That post just gave me the chills like when Dairy Queen's Blizzards used to be good and I did not need to worry about my diet. Gilmore is so opposite what the team is about other than aiming for a Superbowl ring, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I feel like it's gonna be Steven Nelson. We've had prior interest. He will hopefully come cheap isn't this what everyone says about every potential signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I feel like it's gonna be Steven Nelson. We've had prior interest. He will hopefully come cheap I agree - he's a very good zone corner and I believe and upgrade from Wallace. In saying that, I trust beane and any of Nelson, Peterson, Gilmore, Rhodes or even Seymour would do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 1:54 PM, Inigo Montoya said: Beane never likes to go into a draft with a whole in the roster. Our CB position is the last glaring need in our roster. Levi is gone and there's a good chance Tre won't be finished rehabing his knee before the start of the season. The available free agent CBs are getting pretty thin; Gilmore, Joe Hayden, Kyle Fuller, Patrick Peterson, Xavier Rhodes, Tavon Young, Chris Harris, Janoris Jenkins are still out there. Of all those guys I think Gilmore has the most juice left. He is coming off that big contract with the Pats that was paying him $10+ million a year and then signed with the Panthers last year for just $7 million. I'm sure he is looking for another big multi-year deal but he may not get one. If he doesn't, he might be willing to bite on a one year prove it deal in Buffalo and then look to cash in next year. Buffalo would be an ideal spot for a one year prove it deal. He would likely be playing on a team with a lead in the 4th quarter with opposing QBs pressing to score some points. He would also likely be lined up on the opponent's WR2 when Tre gets back. That sounds like a great situation to start stacking some interceptions. I know a lot of people here don't like Gilmore because of how he left Buffalo, but that was with the old regime, and honestly, the old regime was a dumpster fire and I don't blame him for wanting to go to a real franchise. If Beane can swing a one year deal on Gilmore I think that would put us over the top. A secondary of Tre, Gilmore, Poyer, Hyde, and Taron Johnson would be scary. A one year $8-10 million fully guaranteed contract and a chance at a Super Bowl just might just get it done. I like the idea and he would excel in McDermott system but would that be something there left side of the line played next to each other in last season’s pro bowl now you have the two starting corners in last years pro bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 This draft is deep & very good at CB. I'd rather see them draft a couple of guys. His attitude was terrible here. Maybe it would be different because we're a contender now, but it just left a bad taste. Not a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I am pretty sure he did and said the tires have no tread left on them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) If we can fit him under a reasonable contract, I wouldn't hate the idea. Oh, wait...he doesn't smile enough. Edited March 23, 2022 by Dopey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 21 hours ago, TBBills said: I am pretty sure he did and said the tires have no tread left on them. Remember he learned from the hoodie - he bribed the vehicle inspector to pass the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Beane should kick the tires on Stephon Gilmore. fixed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Joe Hayden, Patrick Peterson or Xavier Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 23 hours ago, Success said: This draft is deep & very good at CB. I'd rather see them draft a couple of guys. His attitude was terrible here. Maybe it would be different because we're a contender now, but it just left a bad taste. Not a fan. How was his attitude terrible here? Cuz he didn't smile on draft day? He was a pro's pro in Buffalo... Multiple time training camp MVP.. Stayed off social media.. didn't get into trouble... He just wasn't a rah rah guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: How was his attitude terrible here? Cuz he didn't smile on draft day? He was a pro's pro in Buffalo... Multiple time training camp MVP.. Stayed off social media.. didn't get into trouble... He just wasn't a rah rah guy I didn't care about the draft day thing. I thought he took plays off, especially once the seasons wore on & we weren't in the playoff picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Success said: I didn't care about the draft day thing. I thought he took plays off, especially once the seasons wore on & we weren't in the playoff picture. There's a reason why we are always top 10 in passing defense while he was here.. and he was willing to play hurt Shadowed receivers across the field.. didnt give up many touchdowns.. I said he will be considered an all pro when he leaves because he just didn't get recognition here.. and he did And he wasn't 5x better in NE... He got recognition because he played on a good team.. and a great scheme He never caused any troubles here.. and was consistently one of our best players on defense over 5 years... Tre is my favorite bills player.. and he absolutely takes some plays off when he's not covering a stud.. you can see him go through the motions too.. I don't dislike him for it Edited March 24, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 KC is in a better cap position than we are and even they want him to lower his asking price. Common sense would have said that him not being signed yet was bc his asking price is too high, even before this report. And I know people like to point to Beane's signings of Duke Johnson and Jamison Crowder as him lying when he stated they were done. But that's not what he said. He said any acquisitions going forward would be budget signings, most likely of the one year variety, for people "who value opportunity over money" to improve their stock for next season. Duke is a 1 million cap hit on 1 year. Jamison is a 1.98 million cap hit on 1 year. Stephon Gilmore does not fit this billing. We can't afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bill from NYC Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 1:58 PM, FilthyBeast said: Agree, plus would he even want to come back here? Could have sworn he made negative comments about the area when he left but that was some time ago and might not matter at this point especially if the market drys up and his options dwindle. Yes and he wasn't exactly going all out to make tackles towards the end of his stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Magnum Force said: The issue here is that if they're willing to pay his salary and take on his 22 million dollar cap hit (does it work that way? Do they take the cap hit too? Otherwise, it doesn't matter if they're paying his salary - we can't take a 22 million cap hit) - I'd imagine they're going to want at least a Day 2 pick for him. Idk that I'd want to give up a premium pick for a guy on a 1 year rental, as he's a FA after this season. Edited March 24, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Yes and he wasn't exactly going all out to make tackles towards the end of his stay. That is a very nice way to put it. He avoided contact like the plague. He skipped training camp I believe. He also rarely practiced, milking mysterious injuries all year long. In short, he refused to do anything that might risk his payday, team be damned. He began the same act last year with NE, whining about his contract publicly, then hurt, and Billy Boy pulled the plug and cut him rather than deal with it. I would not want him back at any price, but especially as he clearly believes he should continue to be paid as elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaL0L0k0 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 11:54 AM, Inigo Montoya said: Beane never likes to go into a draft with a whole in the roster. Our CB position is the last glaring need in our roster. Levi is gone and there's a good chance Tre won't be finished rehabing his knee before the start of the season. The available free agent CBs are getting pretty thin; Gilmore, Joe Hayden, Kyle Fuller, Patrick Peterson, Xavier Rhodes, Tavon Young, Chris Harris, Janoris Jenkins are still out there. Of all those guys I think Gilmore has the most juice left. He is coming off that big contract with the Pats that was paying him $10+ million a year and then signed with the Panthers last year for just $7 million. I'm sure he is looking for another big multi-year deal but he may not get one. If he doesn't, he might be willing to bite on a one year prove it deal in Buffalo and then look to cash in next year. Buffalo would be an ideal spot for a one year prove it deal. He would likely be playing on a team with a lead in the 4th quarter with opposing QBs pressing to score some points. He would also likely be lined up on the opponent's WR2 when Tre gets back. That sounds like a great situation to start stacking some interceptions. I know a lot of people here don't like Gilmore because of how he left Buffalo, but that was with the old regime, and honestly, the old regime was a dumpster fire and I don't blame him for wanting to go to a real franchise. If Beane can swing a one year deal on Gilmore I think that would put us over the top. A secondary of Tre, Gilmore, Poyer, Hyde, and Taron Johnson would be scary. A one year $8-10 million fully guaranteed contract and a chance at a Super Bowl just might just get it done. Amigo Iñigo, I don´t know if I agree, but I´d say, why not? even with mixed feelings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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