NewEra Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 16 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I know who we’ve faced. You’re missing the point. It doesn’t matter. There are only 10-12 good QBs in the NFL and you stop them with pass rush. Good QBs are good for a reason. They put up points and stats vs everyone. And to counter your point as of today how many good passing offenses do we face next year? Maybe 5? Depends how you view Lamar Jackson and Kirk Cousins. Rodgers cousins goff fields watson burrow jackson Mitch Mahomes stafford tannehill tua x 2 wilson x 2 macnchz x 2 idk about “good passing offense”. I think the bolded are good qBs. I think Tua can be pretty good in a shanahan offense with hill, waddle and Gesicki. Hard to say if it’ll be a good passing offense at this point, but the arrow is pointing up. We play a MUCH better group of QBs next year when to compared to this year …..there is no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) Draft Booth, McDuffie, or Elam (in that order) at 25 if either are there. If not, try to trade down a little bit to grab McCreary, Gordon, or Woolen and grab some extra picks. Or select at another position at 25 and trade up from 57, if you're feeling so bold and/or you're a big fan of Woolen (might even be able to stand Pat at 57 for him if the board falls correct). Sign a mid-tier FA veteran willing to come to play for a winning team on a discount to fill in at CB1 or CB2 (depending on how quickly the rookie picks things up) while Tre is gone and to provide added depth to Dane Jackson alongside Taron Johnson in the Nickel for when he returns. Done. Edited March 27, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: I’m not just talking about next season though…. Continue to stack offensive talent… Crowder is a one year deal, who knows what happens with Diggs…. Keep adding playmakers offensively, because as I said it’s an offensive league, the more playmakers you got offensively the better you are nowadays. Your specifically talking about drafting for need. When you reach for need is when you get into trouble and draft the likes of guys like Cody Ford…. Not that the BPA won’t be a CB… just feel the dynamic WR moves the needle more in today’s offensive league…..Just look at the two teams and who played in the SB and how stacked they were at the skills position. This has really been the core philosophy of Beane's methodology. Fill the holes in FA, and set yourself up for BPA in the draft, and draft for the future. But, there have been a few times when his sights were a little more specific when it came to the first round where he really targeted players-- '18 trading up for Allen, and trading up for Edmunds, and then '20 trading away for Diggs. In all three of those instances, the FA needs for those positions were basically ignored, while they filled the other holes. In this FA period, they have addressed QB, OL, WR, TE, RB, DE, DT, and LB. What's notably absent? Could it be that Beane/McDermott are targeting, a big first-round, trade-up splash drafting of a premier, future HOF punter??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I’m not just talking about next season though…. Continue to stack offensive talent… Crowder is a one year deal, who knows what happens with Diggs…. Keep adding playmakers offensively, because as I said it’s an offensive league, the more playmakers you got offensively the better you are nowadays. Your specifically talking about drafting for need. When you reach for need is when you get into trouble and draft the likes of guys like Cody Ford…. Not that the BPA won’t be a CB… just feel the dynamic WR moves the needle more in today’s offensive league…..Just look at the two teams and who played in the SB and how stacked they were at the skills position. You make really excellent points here about contemporary team-building draft strategy. I have to admit I hit the "agree" reaction on the post you quoted 9 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: If Diggs, Crowder and Davis are the starting WRs and McKenzie is the ”gadget guy”, any improvement from a rookie (this year) would be taking opportunities from those players. An investment at CB in the first. Is not only (an attempt at) filling a gaping hole, but likely a big step up in mid-term over last year’s starter (Levi Wallace) and the guy who was Wallace’s backup (Dane Jackson). The only other position where a first round rookie might provide as big an improvement over last year is at OG. But, OG is a position that works in coordination with the rest of the OL while CB is a position where they have high rate of 1on1 responsibility. Bad play by WR is an incomplete pass, by an OL it is a sack with risk of injury to the most important player (Allen), bad play by a CB is possibly a TD given up or an easy first down that allows another 3 downs for the opponent. My first reaction to this post was, and I've left it in place, "Agree." It's true that the negative impact of bad play at the CB position can immediately result in points. In theory, with AFC offenses especially stacking insane talent at the skill positions, a hole at CB is more likely than ever to be exposed. 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I’m not just talking about next season though…. Continue to stack offensive talent… Crowder is a one year deal, who knows what happens with Diggs…. Keep adding playmakers offensively, because as I said it’s an offensive league, the more playmakers you got offensively the better you are nowadays. Your specifically talking about drafting for need. When you reach for need is when you get into trouble and draft the likes of guys like Cody Ford…. Not that the BPA won’t be a CB… just feel the dynamic WR moves the needle more in today’s offensive league…..Just look at the two teams and who played in the SB and how stacked they were at the skills position. This introduces a compelling counter-argument on both the micro and macro levels. The Bills, and all teams who are paying elite QB contracts, cannot count on long-term stability at WR. At least not right now. Stocking the cupboards with rookie deals seems more essential than ever. The Bill have some work to do on that front. Also, name all the elite CBs who played deep into the NFL playoffs (outside of Jalen Ramsey...who had his struggles). Defense is becoming more about scheme in the secondary and talent up front. Offense is essentially the opposite now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I’m not just talking about next season though…. Continue to stack offensive talent… Crowder is a one year deal, who knows what happens with Diggs…. Keep adding playmakers offensively, because as I said it’s an offensive league, the more playmakers you got offensively the better you are nowadays. Your specifically talking about drafting for need. When you reach for need is when you get into trouble and draft the likes of guys like Cody Ford…. Not that the BPA won’t be a CB… just feel the dynamic WR moves the needle more in today’s offensive league…..Just look at the two teams and who played in the SB and how stacked they were at the skills position. I think its receiver or CB. IOL is not the value there. In the 2nd? Sure. To your point, if Crowder, Diggs, Davis get dinged who is next? Tanner Gentry? And so adding a dynamic receiver and stacking offensive weapons is the right idea. But I do think that there is a chance that need and value match up with a corner in round 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Draft one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 If there is a player they identify as a day 1 starter, burn some draft capital and trade up if you have to. I would rather they trade up vs reaching on a 2nd round talent at the end of the 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD716 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Steve Nelson free agent signing and the draft another on the First or second round. Other options Peterson , Haden or Gilmore if brought in at reasonable price. Agree with trade up for corner if you see a day one, number one corner starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills_88 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Draft 2 CB's through rounds 1 thru 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 You don’t draft for need. Are you kidding me? IF corner is BPA at 25, then fine. But I’m hearing a lot of you say it has to be a corner. That’s completely reckless. Not all the corners are the same. Guys like Gardner, Booth, McDuffie, and Stingley are the obvious first rounders. Gordon did not have good numbers at the combine and his stock has dropped. Elam has his issue and mccreary has absurdly short arms. Do you really think Beane is gonna draft a guy with sub 29” arms to play the boundary? No way. Heck, McDuffie has short arms too. Dane Jackson has better measurables. All four of the corners I mentioned as first rounders will probably be gone. Do you still want Beane to draft one “just because we need one”? Count me out on that. We can possibly get someone like Gordon or Woolen in round 2 and get a big upgrade at the position. It doesn’t “have to be” corner at 25. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) On 3/27/2022 at 2:14 PM, BillsVet said: KC's offensive skill position talent and willingness to continuously improve it are why they'll be solid again next season without Hill. Buffalo seems to poke their toe in the water there, but when it comes to the off-season (with the exception of Diggs) they revert into draft defense, over-draft JAG linemen and throw some UFA money/mid-round pick at offense. Taking a CB in the first would mean 5 of their top 7 picks in the McCoach era have been used on that side of the ball. And they've used a lot of UFA dollars over there as well, likely more than on offense. I think you have to look at units, not just offense or defense. I do agree that too much FA dollars, and premium picks the last 3 years (round 1 and 2) have been on DL. It is becoming NY Jets like, when they kept taking DL early and missing. No premium pick has been spent on DB since Tre White. Poyer and Hyde were FA steals who rightly got extended to starter level salaries. Most other DBs were late round picks or UDFA (Wallace, D Jackson etc). Taron Johnson was found way down in the 4th. FA CBs have been guys like EJ Gaines. DB, OL, WR etc have been ignored because of the swing and misses at DL. It is a clear issue. I hope the young 1st and 2nd rounders get into gear and start producing, along with the new load of FA D-linemen. They have to. My biggest issue with OBD is how they evaluate, coach and develop OL and DL. It is taking resources from other units. If Buffalo had managed their OL evaluation and coaching better, it might be in better shape. (sit Ford earlier, give Teller more time, start Bates instead of keeping him on the sideline, draft C Humphrey instead of Basham etc) A line of LT Dawkins - LG Bates - C Humphrey - RG Teller - RT Brown would be young and beastly, and it was in OBD grasp. Hoping Settle, Jones, Miller are a better crop of FA than Jefferson, Star, Butler. Miller should be a + over Addison, who I thought was the best DL FA they have brought in. CB is a clear position of need and there are 8 or so 1st to 2nd round DBs available this draft before a fall off. A lot of teams will need to find WRs now, so maybe that will let a CB like Elam, McCreary or Gordon fall to 25. Maybe Beane moves up to secure one? That said I think they have managed the rest of the roster well given the nearly maniacal focus on DL. Edited March 28, 2022 by RocCityRoller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I just remembered Olijah Griffin. I liked him last year before the draft and was surprised he went undrafted. Maybe they can develop him like they did Wallace? That being said, I still hope they draft at least one CB with speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I'm a believe in you draft WRs and CBs. They're too expensive related to production. Diggs trade made sense with his contract in place even with the likely extension. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said: I think you have to look at units, not just offense or defense. I do agree that too much FA dollars, and premium picks the last 3 years (round 1 and 2) have been on DL. It is becoming NY Jets like, when they kept taking DL early and missing. No premium pick has been spent on DB since Tre White. Poyer and Hyde were FA steals who rightly got extended to starter level salaries. Most other DBs were late round picks or UDFA (Wallace, D Jackson etc). Taron Johnson was found way down in the 4th. FA CBs have been guys like EJ Gaines. DB, OL, WR etc have been ignored because of the swing and misses at DL. It is a clear issue. I hope the young 1st and 2nd rounders get into gear and start producing, along with the new load of FA D-linemen. They have to. My biggest issue with OBD is how they evaluate, coach and develop OL and DL. It is taking resources from other units. If Buffalo had managed their OL evaluation and coaching better, it might be in better shape. (sit Ford earlier, give Teller more time, start Bates instead of keeping him on the sideline, draft C Humphrey instead of Basham etc) A line of LT Dawkins - LG Bates - C Humphrey - RG Teller - RT Brown would be young and beastly, and it was in OBD grasp. Hoping Settle, Jones, Miller are a better crop of FA than Jefferson, Star, Butler. Miller should be a + over Addison, who I thought was the best DL FA they have brought in. CB is a clear position of need and there are 8 or so 1st to 2nd round DBs available this draft before a fall off. A lot of teams will need to find WRs now, so maybe that will let a CB like Elam, McCreary or Gordon fall to 25. Maybe Beane moves up to secure one? That said I think they have managed the rest of the roster well given the nearly maniacal focus on DL. You had me until the end. Gordon, mccreary, and Elam would be reached in the first round. If one of them is there in the second, then fine. I’m actually in the camp that wants nothing to do with mccreary. His arms are less than 29” and no corner with less than 31” arms has ever made the pro bowl. That’s a full 2-2.5” shorter than most great boundary corners. 1 hour ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: I just remembered Olijah Griffin. I liked him last year before the draft and was surprised he went undrafted. Maybe they can develop him like they did Wallace? That being said, I still hope they draft at least one CB with speed. I’m sure they will. But it doesn’t have to be the first round like people are clamoring for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Now that we have Bates back in the fold, I’m all for trading up and grabbing one of the top 3 corners...👍 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Now that we have Bates back in the fold, I’m all for trading up and grabbing one of the top 3 corners...👍 You realize we still have the need to get younger on offense, right? Most of Allen’s “weapons” are on expiring contracts. Hardly locked up for success after this year. This staff likes Dane Jackson despite how most of you view him. He’s capable of being a really good corner. We can get another starter at the position in round 2-4. It doesn’t have to be round 1. I would argue that there are guys that are projected on day 2 that have better measurables than guys like Kyler Gordon and Roger McCreary. Cam Taylor-Britt for example ran a 4.38 with 31.5” arms. Tiger McCreary has 28.75” arms! Gross. Gordon ran a 4.52. No thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 First round get best CB we can afford, trading picks if we have to. Then devote rest of draft to offense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 IMO go get Stephon Gilmore. He would be the perfect bridge CB to a couple of draft picks. Obviously,if we can afford him. Plus winning a SB with us would put that smile on his face that people complained about. Still can't believe people complained he didn't smile enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 If he is there when we pick Booth will solve the empty spot wonderfully...still think its Danes starting job to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said: If he is there when we pick Booth will solve the empty spot wonderfully...still think its Danes starting job to lose. I think this staff thinks very highly of Dane Jackson. Home grown and has two full years of development under McD and this defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 CB is a huge concern right now. We’ll need a day 1 or 2 pick and a proven veteran. With the gauntlet of talented QBs we face this year, it must be addressed. We are also betting Tre has no setbacks and is on schedule. With the number of draft picks we have this year, package they to move up or make a trade for a proven vet. Regarding WR, I’m not as concerned as Josh will be a big attraction for FA’s. They know they will have the opportunity to put up numbers. Unless the talent is just too much to pass up in the draft. Pretty clear CB is our biggest need and it’s a pretty big divide for the second biggest need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I like Dax Hill. Athletic enough to play outside corner full time, nickel, safety. Feel like McDermott would love him as a chess piece to move all over the defense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I think this staff thinks very highly of Dane Jackson. Home grown and has two full years of development under McD and this defense. Agree. Think it became clear how high the day they let Levi walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Lagoon Blues said: Agree. Think it became clear how high the day they let Levi walk. Not to mention they specifically said last year that they didn’t think there was a corner in 2 that could beat out Jackson. That was before he had another year of development and multiple games started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Now that we have Bates back in the fold, I’m all for trading up and grabbing one of the top 3 corners...👍 What about Daxton Hill? He seems like a good prospect and one of his strengths is getting after receivers...especially in the slot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: First round get best CB we can afford, trading picks if we have to. Then devote rest of draft to offense Don't forget the punter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) There are quite a few free agent corners still on the market. Steven Nelson, Joe Haden, Patrick Peterson, Kyle Fuller, Bryce Callahan, Janoris Jenkins, and Kevin King are still sitting out there, unsigned. James Bradberry may also be released by the Giants. One of them is going to take the bait on Brandon Beane's "come play for peanuts and a chance to win a ring on a one year deal!" pitch. Count on it. EDIT: Personally, I will continue to stump for Josh Jackson. 2nd round pick out of Iowa by the Packers, BADLY miscast in their man-heavy scheme. 6 feet tall, long arms, ball-hawking zone corner when he was at Iowa. Just 25 years old. Would likely only command vet minimum or close to it. A zero-risk, "Bring him to camp and let him compete" signing. I bet the change in scenery and switch to our scheme would resurrect his career. Edited March 29, 2022 by Logic 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Now that we have Bates back in the fold, I’m all for trading up and grabbing one of the top 3 corners...👍 Speed and playmakers! CB, LB and WR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, TFBillsfan said: CB is a huge concern right now. We’ll need a day 1 or 2 pick and a proven veteran. With the gauntlet of talented QBs we face this year, it must be addressed. We are also betting Tre has no setbacks and is on schedule. With the number of draft picks we have this year, package they to move up or make a trade for a proven vet. Regarding WR, I’m not as concerned as Josh will be a big attraction for FA’s. They know they will have the opportunity to put up numbers. Unless the talent is just too much to pass up in the draft. Pretty clear CB is our biggest need and it’s a pretty big divide for the second biggest need. There’s no concern because it’s so early. The Bills let Wallace walk cheap. Wallace got Siran Neal money. So as people here write they’re concerned, the Bills aren’t acting concerned. That means there is a plan to address CB. I have a feeling it involves James Bradberry. They’ve been way too nonchalant about CB this offseason. They know they’re getting someone, the only question is who is it? So many veteran CBs available that can fill CB2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 We need speed and playmakers! We better believe that teams are really coming after us now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 9 hours ago, whorlnut said: You realize we still have the need to get younger on offense, right? Most of Allen’s “weapons” are on expiring contracts. Hardly locked up for success after this year. This staff likes Dane Jackson despite how most of you view him. He’s capable of being a really good corner. We can get another starter at the position in round 2-4. It doesn’t have to be round 1. I would argue that there are guys that are projected on day 2 that have better measurables than guys like Kyler Gordon and Roger McCreary. Cam Taylor-Britt for example ran a 4.38 with 31.5” arms. Tiger McCreary has 28.75” arms! Gross. Gordon ran a 4.52. No thanks. Wait, you dismiss Gordon as being slow, but he is faster than Dane Jackson who you claim is capable of being a really good corner? I’m not saying that Jackson might not be the answer, but I don’t think we should just pencil him in as the answer, either. Even if Jackson is good enough to be the starter opposite White, they still need to have someone competent to start until White is healthy - perhaps the first month or two of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: Wait, you dismiss Gordon as being slow, but he is faster than Dane Jackson who you claim is capable of being a really good corner? I’m not saying that Jackson might not be the answer, but I don’t think we should just pencil him in as the answer, either. Even if Jackson is good enough to be the starter opposite White, they still need to have someone competent to start until White is healthy - perhaps the first month or two of the season. If White has no setbacks he should be practicing by August. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If White has no setbacks he should be practicing by August. And if he doesn’t heal as fast as you suggest, then what? I am only saying prepare as if he will miss time, because that is a real possibility. The team doesn’t have an established starter opposite White, so even if White is ready to go, a highly drafted rookie can compete with Jackson for the other spot. No other position on the team appears as weak as CB. OG is a weakness, too, but at least they have Bates back to start unless they find a player who is better. But, OL is a “play together” position where player deficiencies can be covered up a bit. CBs are really exposed to 1-1 matchups and can easily be targeted by the opposition. I understand that WR isn’t super deep on this roster as well and a good reinforcement would be welcomed there, but there at least they have a clear top 3 (Diggs, Crowder, Davis) and could survive if McKenzie were pressed into the starting lineup. I *hope* that they address CB before the draft, leaving the possibility of taking a WR or OT/OG early if the value warrants it, but as of today, I think they need to lean CB, unless there is nobody remotely close to a good prospect there. Agree, I don’t want them to reach for a need, but teams do reach in some ways on many picks - they all say they take BPA, but need and scheme fit must play into their rankings somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Lewes Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There’s no concern because it’s so early. The Bills let Wallace walk cheap. Wallace got Siran Neal money. So as people here write they’re concerned, the Bills aren’t acting concerned. That means there is a plan to address CB. I have a feeling it involves James Bradberry. They’ve been way too nonchalant about CB this offseason. They know they’re getting someone, the only question is who is it? So many veteran CBs available that can fill CB2. What do you think the Giants will get for Bradberry? I'm sure the cap wizards can make his $$$ work if they want (and rumors have NY willing to pick up some salary), but the G-Men will need to get something in return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: And if he doesn’t heal as fast as you suggest, then what? I am only saying prepare as if he will miss time, because that is a real possibility. The team doesn’t have an established starter opposite White, so even if White is ready to go, a highly drafted rookie can compete with Jackson for the other spot. No other position on the team appears as weak as CB. OG is a weakness, too, but at least they have Bates back to start unless they find a player who is better. But, OL is a “play together” position where player deficiencies can be covered up a bit. CBs are really exposed to 1-1 matchups and can easily be targeted by the opposition. I understand that WR isn’t super deep on this roster as well and a good reinforcement would be welcomed there, but there at least they have a clear top 3 (Diggs, Crowder, Davis) and could survive if McKenzie were pressed into the starting lineup. I *hope* that they address CB before the draft, leaving the possibility of taking a WR or OT/OG early if the value warrants it, but as of today, I think they need to lean CB, unless there is nobody remotely close to a good prospect there. Agree, I don’t want them to reach for a need, but teams do reach in some ways on many picks - they all say they take BPA, but need and scheme fit must play into their rankings somehow. The Bills would know better than any of us. What do their actions tell you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: Wait, you dismiss Gordon as being slow, but he is faster than Dane Jackson who you claim is capable of being a really good corner? I’m not saying that Jackson might not be the answer, but I don’t think we should just pencil him in as the answer, either. Even if Jackson is good enough to be the starter opposite White, they still need to have someone competent to start until White is healthy - perhaps the first month or two of the season. Oh my goodness. Here we go again. Where was Dane picked? 7th round. We are talking about Gordon being a potential first round pick with 4.52 speed? I don’t think so. 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If White has no setbacks he should be practicing by August. My son had ACL surgery on 1/25…the hope is he is able to start practicing by end of summer as well. And he doesn’t have an entire professional strength and conditioning staff helping him get there like Tre does. 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The Bills would know better than any of us. What do their actions tell you? This is an EXCELLENT point. The fact that they haven’t done anything tells me two things. They are confident in where Tre is with his recovery and they like Dane Jackson more than we know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) To answer the original question on this thread, trust Beane. He has consistently demonstrated that he has a plan. There is a reason Beane is where he is and we are providing our expert guidence on Two Bills Drive Edited March 29, 2022 by longtimebillsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 52 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: To answer the original question on this thread, trust Beane. He has consistently demonstrated that he has a plan. There is a reason Beane is where he is and we are providing our expert guidence on Two Bills Drive Well that is true for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 16 hours ago, whorlnut said: You realize we still have the need to get younger on offense, right? Most of Allen’s “weapons” are on expiring contracts. Hardly locked up for success after this year. This staff likes Dane Jackson despite how most of you view him. He’s capable of being a really good corner. We can get another starter at the position in round 2-4. It doesn’t have to be round 1. I would argue that there are guys that are projected on day 2 that have better measurables than guys like Kyler Gordon and Roger McCreary. Cam Taylor-Britt for example ran a 4.38 with 31.5” arms. Tiger McCreary has 28.75” arms! Gross. Gordon ran a 4.52. No thanks. I'm opposed to trading up for anyone in this draft. We need a ton of depth - LB, CB, WR, RB, OG, OT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I don't worry about that in regards to trading up. Beane has been great at finding depth at a minimal cost through FA and camp cuts. I'm literally cool with whatever he does and trading up is one of those things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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