Baker Mayfield says goodbye to Cleveland (update - Traded to Panthers)

[Nelius]

On 5/6/2022 at 9:23 PM, mikemac2001 said:

Baker should show up and be a professional if he isn’t cut or traded 

 

he has a chance to start for 3-6 games with a talented roster get over his ego pride being hurt and show some teams why they should invest in him 

 

but he won’t he’s an asshat who thinks his f arts don’t smell bad 

 

I would have agreed with you before but this Cleveland blunder continues looking worse and worse. They are clearly the worst organization in sports, this Watson contract may end up being the worst sports contract in history. Makes the Anthony Rendon contract look like a small administrative error. It might be Baker's best option to turn the whine to 11 and play the sympathy card at full strength at this point because more and more are feeling bad for him.

 

For example I just ran a quick Google search for Watson and top story is "NFL is pushing for indefinite suspension of Watson" lolololol. Granted they can probably void the contract but they can't just be like "Uh, hey Baker" at this point. Truly unbelievable, I love it.

Edited June 27, 2022 by Nelius

[BarleyNY]

8 hours ago, The Dean said:

 

Well, I wasn't restricting myself to QBs, but you YOU JUST NAMED TWO QBS who didn't attend OTAs.  Do you really think Jackson needs the "practice" that occurs in OTAs?  He is the unquestionable starter for the Ravens as has been in that system for three years. He won an MVP in that offense. I'm sure he doesn't need the limited practice they manage to get in OTAs. It's most valuable for rookies and new players to the system. Now, to be sure, I'd like every player to be there, even if they don't need the practice. But we know that isn't always the case.

 

Also keep in mind, Jackson is his own agent. That is particularly unusual, especially for a starting QB. He marches to the beat of a different drummer than the "typical" NFL player. Why assign the logic and motivations of the typical player?  Doesn't make sense to me. Nobody in the organization, including Jackson, seems to have any serious concerns with the situation. 

 

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/56056/inside-the-different-paths-lamar-jacksons-contract-can-take-with-the-ravens

 

So if I was a Raven's fan I wouldn't be all that stressed out, at the moment. Everyone is saying the right things and nobody involved (as far as I can see) is fretting over the contract negotiation at the moment.

 

 

 

Lol.  Yeah, I do think it would be helpful for Jackson to be at OTAs.  He lost his favorite WR this off-season and never got in the same page as last year’s 1st round pick WR.  As for putting him in the same class as Brady and Rodgers - it just shows how far you’re reaching here.  He held out of voluntary OTAs because it’s part of contract negotiations.  Everyone else understands that. 

[Albany,n.y.]

11 hours ago, Nelius said:

 

I would have agreed with you before but this Cleveland blunder continues looking worse and worse. They are clearly the worst organization in sports, this Watson contract may end up being the worst sports contract in history. Makes the Anthony Rendon contract look like a small administrative error. It might be Baker's best option to turn the whine to 11 and play the sympathy card at full strength at this point because more and more are feeling bad for him.

 

For example I just ran a quick Google search for Watson and top story is "NFL is pushing for indefinite suspension of Watson" lolololol. Granted they can probably void the contract but they can't just be like "Uh, hey Baker" at this point. Truly unbelievable, I love it.

If they void the contract, they get nothing for all the draft choices they sent to Houston.  The NFL isn't going to make Houston give the picks back because Cleveland made the trade knowing all the allegations and based on how they structured the contract, both the Browns & Watson expected some kind of suspension.  

 

Cleveland is stuck with him.  Some day he'll play for them.  The amazing thing is if they were to waive Watson after the suspension is announced, some other dumb team would claim him for the future-remember Cleveland won a bidding war among multiple teams for the rights to trade for and sign Watson to that contract.  

[BillsShredder83]

4 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Lol.  Yeah, I do think it would be helpful for Jackson to be at OTAs.  He lost his favorite WR this off-season and never got in the same page as last year’s 1st round pick WR.  As for putting him in the same class as Brady and Rodgers - it just shows how far you’re reaching here.  He held out of voluntary OTAs because it’s part of contract negotiations.  Everyone else understands that. 

Agreed. I also think if you're negotiating in good faith, you should be at OTAs for posturing. Looks bad to be absent with contract hanging out there 

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

If they void the contract, they get nothing for all the draft choices they sent to Houston.  The NFL isn't going to make Houston give the picks back because Cleveland made the trade knowing all the allegations and based on how they structured the contract, both the Browns & Watson expected some kind of suspension.  

 

Cleveland is stuck with him.  Some day he'll play for them.  The amazing thing is if they were to waive Watson after the suspension is announced, some other dumb team would claim him for the future-remember Cleveland won a bidding war among multiple teams for the rights to trade for and sign Watson to that contract.  

They were were the only ones actually willing to sign him to that contract. They didn’t win the right to sign him to it. They essentially ended up bidding against themselves.  If Atlanta had offered the same contract they would be the team going through this right now. That was where he wanted to go.

Edited June 27, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

still nothing 🤔 

 

😂 

[The Dean]

14 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Lol.  Yeah, I do think it would be helpful for Jackson to be at OTAs.  He lost his favorite WR this off-season and never got in the same page as last year’s 1st round pick WR.  As for putting him in the same class as Brady and Rodgers - it just shows how far you’re reaching here.  He held out of voluntary OTAs because it’s part of contract negotiations.  Everyone else understands that. 

 

 

Yes, when you have zero information on a subject, just assume it HAS to be because of something you are familiar with. Nobody has different reasons for doing things. Live in the box. It's a comfortable place if you don't like to challenge your mind.

[BarleyNY]

16 minutes ago, The Dean said:

Yes, when you have zero information on a subject, just assume it HAS to be because of something you are familiar with. Nobody has different reasons for doing things. Live in the box. It's a comfortable place if you don't like to challenge your mind.

 

[The Dean]

21 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

 

 

🤣

 

 

An Eddie Murphy gif is the best retort you can come up with. That seems about right.

[BarleyNY]

3 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

 

🤣

 

 

An Eddie Murphy gif is the best retort you can come up with. That seems about right.

It’s all your delusional posts are worth.  I learned a long time ago that talking sense to crazy is nothing but a waste of time and energy.

[The Dean]

15 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

It’s all your delusional posts are worth.  I learned a long time ago that talking sense to crazy is nothing but a waste of time and energy.

 

 

Ah gotcha. Because you can't think of any other reason he may not have attended OTAs other than a contract negotiation issue it MUST be a contract negotiation issue.

 

And I'm saying, it MIGHT be something else. And I'm delusional..  Great. I get it.

 

I understand some people have trouble with uncertainty. 

[BarleyNY]

8 hours ago, The Dean said:

 

 

Ah gotcha. Because you can't think of any other reason he may not have attended OTAs other than a contract negotiation issue it MUST be a contract negotiation issue.

 

And I'm saying, it MIGHT be something else. And I'm delusional..  Great. I get it.

 

I understand some people have trouble with uncertainty. 

Lamar Jackson, who is set to play on his 5th year option, chooses not to attend voluntary OTAs.

 

Everyone’s reaction but you: It’s almost certainly a negotiation tactic for that nine figure contract he’s trying to work out with the Ravens. 
 

Your take:  It’s not that, it’s for some other reason I can’t think of.  And he’s not in contract negotiations with the Ravens.

 

I have given this argument far more time than it deserves.  I’ll leave it there. 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Yeah that ship sailed long ago

[RobbRiddick]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Damn, it's like a really bad version of the Beatles breaking up. I guess that makes Watson Yoko Ono

[Doc Brown]

17 hours ago, The Dean said:

Ah gotcha. Because you can't think of any other reason he may not have attended OTAs other than a contract negotiation issue it MUST be a contract negotiation issue.

 

And I'm saying, it MIGHT be something else. And I'm delusional..  Great. I get it.

 

I understand some people have trouble with uncertainty. 

Why would he skip OTA's when he's been there the last four off-seasons if it wasn't for a new contract?  It's possible but highly unlikely it was for other reasons.

[wjag]

55 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Why would he skip OTA's when he's been there the last four off-seasons if it wasn't for a new contract?  It's possible but highly unlikely it was for other reasons.

my speculation was he was still rehabbing the ankle/foot and didn’t want to be seen less than 100%.  He literally was no where to be seen for months.  

[PetermansRedemption]

With no Watson and no Baker the Browns have no NFL quality QB. The Texans are going to get some premium draft choices. 

[stuvian]

Josh Rosen is going to make an appearance in this situation

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 6/28/2022 at 5:34 PM, wjag said:

my speculation was he was still rehabbing the ankle/foot and didn’t want to be seen less than 100%.  He literally was no where to be seen for months.  

CSR for Progressive requires both online and in classroom training.  He might even take over the Progressive vacancy in Millinocket, Maine! 😁

[The Dean]

5 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

CSR for Progressive requires both online and in classroom training.  He might even take over the Progressive vacancy in Millinocket, Maine! 😁

 

I believe that response was regarding Lamar Jackson missing OTA's, but perhaps I'm wrong. Does he have a Progressive contract too?

[Punching Bag]

8 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

I believe that response was regarding Lamar Jackson missing OTA's, but perhaps I'm wrong. Does he have a Progressive contract too?

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/15/tv-ads-for-insurance-companies-featuring-nfl-quarterbacks-outperform-other-ads.html

Quote

 JAN 15 2021 10:29 AM EST

The Browns quarterback signed a marketing deal with Progressive in 2019. He’s the only NFL player the firm uses in its sports marketing campaigns. Charney said before they settled on him, the firm put Mayfield through a “brutal two-hour combine.” 

Charney said Mayfield is unscripted when shooting.

 

[The Dean]

24 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/15/tv-ads-for-insurance-companies-featuring-nfl-quarterbacks-outperform-other-ads.html

 

 

 

What does this have to do with Lamar?  Follow the direct posts leading to Ridgeway's response. They concerned Jackson. 

[Punching Bag]

22 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

 

What does this have to do with Lamar?  Follow the direct posts leading to Ridgeway's response. They concerned Jackson. 

 

Lemur is not a spokesman for Progressive Insurance.  Just pointed that out.

 

He DOES NOT HAVE a Progressive contract.

6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

CSR for Progressive requires both online and in classroom training.  He might even take over the Progressive vacancy in Millinocket, Maine! 😁

 

He DOES NOT HAVE a Progressive contract.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

My mistake, haven't followed the last few pages where focus switched to Jackson from Mayfield. 🙁😁

[Behindenemylines]

20 hours ago, stuvian said:

Josh Rosen is going to make an appearance in this situation

Good idea.  Right Josh for the Right team owner.  Both arrogant narcissistic A$$hats.  He could do well there

[T master]

Was talking to a Browns fan today after last year playing with his injury and way less than 100% leaving his guts on the field for the Browns showing him self to be a all about his team type of guy & a leader how can he ever play another down for this team .

 

Haslem has all but bent him over with out even a kiss or some vaseline ! If it were me i would never even walk in the building again let alone put my body on the line for this team or it's owner what a slap in the face !

 

I would let them roll with who ever they can get to play while their new franchise QB sits out his disciplinary suspension .

 

If Mayfield does play at all it will be for his other team mates that he played with prior which will show himself as being a true team player once again . But i'm sure he is agonizing over that & hopes that a trade comes before he has to even think of doing such a thing ... 

[Pete]

To Seattle

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

Nothing yet huh

 

🤔 

I wonder why.  

 

[Greg S]

Brissett will be the starting QB. I can't see Mayfield ever playing for them again. Watson is looking at a long suspension and maybe even all year.

[Mango]

17 hours ago, T master said:

Was talking to a Browns fan today after last year playing with his injury and way less than 100% leaving his guts on the field for the Browns showing him self to be a all about his team type of guy & a leader how can he ever play another down for this team .

 

Haslem has all but bent him over with out even a kiss or some vaseline ! If it were me i would never even walk in the building again let alone put my body on the line for this team or it's owner what a slap in the face !

 

I would let them roll with who ever they can get to play while their new franchise QB sits out his disciplinary suspension .

 

If Mayfield does play at all it will be for his other team mates that he played with prior which will show himself as being a true team player once again . But i'm sure he is agonizing over that & hopes that a trade comes before he has to even think of doing such a thing ... 

 

I was in Cleveland a few weeks ago and had a similar conversation about Baker with some locals. I was wearing a Bills hat grabbing a sandwich and a beer, and a couple of guys started chatting about how they are jumping ship to Buffalo after the Watson debacle. They also said they hadn't worn any Browns gear since the trade. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

11 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

I was in Cleveland a few weeks ago and had a similar conversation about Baker with some locals. I was wearing a Bills hat grabbing a sandwich and a beer, and a couple of guys started chatting about how they are jumping ship to Buffalo after the Watson debacle. They also said they hadn't worn any Browns gear since the trade. 

Haslam tripled the price on Browns gear to help underwrite the Watson deal. 😁

[YoloinOhio]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Does this mean they reached out directly? Or to his agent, I wonder. The cold shoulder seems to indicate directly, but now is a time to get the agent involved and eliminate the emotional part. THAT is why you have an agent. Again, very “Brownsie”.

 

I don’t like how ANY of this has gone down, but if I’m Baker I’m doing whatever it takes to get my $18 Million and change! Play for the boys in the locker room if that’s what it takes. 

[Albany,n.y.]

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Maybe he has a cold shoulder from putting ice packs on his 2021 injury.  

[NoSaint]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

Does this mean they reached out directly? Or to his agent, I wonder. The cold shoulder seems to indicate directly, but now is a time to get the agent involved and eliminate the emotional part. THAT is why you have an agent. Again, very “Brownsie”.

 

I don’t like how ANY of this has gone down, but if I’m Baker I’m doing whatever it takes to get my $18 Million and change! Play for the boys in the locker room if that’s what it takes. 

to be fair, at this point they should generally have an idea of his preferred places. How many conversations with him do they need to make it happen? 
 

“hey where do you want to go or avoid”

 

”hey we are talking with this team you wanted if you want to have some chats with them about your contract”

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, Augie said:

I don’t like how ANY of this has gone down, but if I’m Baker I’m doing whatever it takes to get my $18 Million and change! Play for the boys in the locker room if that’s what it takes. 

 

While I'm not a big Baker fan I like what he is doing.  That team has treated him like crap and helping them with a trade would let them off

the hook.  He is on a 5th year option to play for the Browns.  He will be an UFA next year so why would he care where he went if traded.

 

Like you said he just has to keep his mouth shut and collect his $18M and continue his career next year where he wants to go.  Teams will have

their full Cap cash for contracts in March.  After what that organization said about him I wouldn't talk to them either.

[maddenboy]

26 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

While I'm not a big Baker fan I like what he is doing.  That team has treated him like crap and helping them with a trade would let them off

the hook.  He is on a 5th year option to play for the Browns.  He will be an UFA next year so why would he care where he went if traded.

 

Like you said he just has to keep his mouth shut and collect his $18M and continue his career next year where he wants to go.  Teams will have

their full Cap cash for contracts in March.  After what that organization said about him I wouldn't talk to them either.

I disagree

 

Mayfield needs to show up and play football, if they ask him, in order to collect his $18MM.  Otherwise, "conduct detrimental" and such.  Whoever thinks that if Watson is suspended, the Browns will just say "welp, we Did do Mayfield wrong, so lets just let him sit home and collect free money while we roll with Jacoby?"

 

Not I. 

 

And Mayfield needs to play Well in order to cash in on his future prospects.  He cant just show up and play like shtt, with the excuse that "wink-nudge, you all know the Real Me is a much better qb than this, but i'm sandbagging this season."  Because yeah.  No Baker, nobody 'knows' that your ***** play will be on purpose.

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, maddenboy said:

Mayfield needs to show up and play football, if they ask him, in order to collect his $18MM. 

 

If the Browns don't trade him then he can play if they want him to.  I said "keep his mouth shut" over helping the Browns get as much return

for him as they want to.

 

The article was about him not talking to the Browns over a trade.