Craig Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Because KC would not have tried to return a kick. They would have called fair catch (0 seconds off the clock) or grab and kneel and lose 1 second. If it is squibbed not so - even an onside kick runs a few seconds off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: McDermott refusing to answer questions substantively about the final 13 seconds of the game and a series of critical decisions made by the coaching staff. Not a good look IMO. yeah its almost as if he doesnt want to throw his kicker under the bus if he himself kicked it too deep? Its an explanation unless he's just salty and knows he could have conceivably handled that call better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Since1981 said: I’m not too hard on D. By the end, lost steam. White missing messes with a lot 550 yards against no turnovers. Give up 45 yards in 9 seconds in the end of the game. Not too hard on the D. How bad do they have to be before you are upset with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nitro said: Romo was right. Why Frazier could not figure this out is beyond me. I thought for sure we won this game on our last score, this is BS. Edited January 24, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Because KC would not have tried to return a kick. They would have called fair catch (0 seconds off the clock) or grab and kneel and lose 1 second. That’s why you high kick it to the ten, if they fair catch it they had 15 more yards to go if they don’t tyey eat up 5 seconds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Craig said: If it is squibbed not so - even an onside kick runs a few seconds off. Now you're giving them possession in your territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidiehard Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I don't think I can watch any sports shows this week talking about how great those 2 throws to wide open Hill and Kelce were in the 13 seconds. He has great players around him making great plays. Not saying he doesn't make great plays, but he gets way too much credit for his team making plays and out running the defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 seconds. I just can't get over it. We could have simply pulled down Kelce and Hill twice, gets a total of 10 yards and it's hail Mary time. Just un$#@believable... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, london_bills said: It's not as black and white as that. It comes down to whether you take bpa or draft for need. It hasn't panned out so far with rousseau/basham. BPA or need doesn't dictate us drafting offense. I'm not saying draft defense but I'm not saying not to draft defense either. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rousseau or Basham play much better with Hughes and/or Addison gone after having a season under their belts. I'd go far as to say they were better than Hughes or Addison tonight. They aren't beating their blockers though and that's what we need. I don't care if we get a FA or keep drafting but we need a legit play making pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said: I think at the very least you HAVE to check Hill and Kelce...If they try to beat you elsewhere you can still have plenty in coverage if they only rush 3... They just...Ugh...They literally did the worst possible thing they could Defending that situation...You can't get that many yards in 13 seconds without the Defense making mistakes...Just unacceptable... I'll never understand the play calling mindset that says, yeah, let's leave pro bowl receivers wide open 15 yds downfield, especially when the Chiefs still had timeouts. If they were out, that's one thing, but what we watched was inexcusable. That's amateur hour level coaching. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I thought for sure we won this game on our last score, this is BS. same here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: The Super Bowl would never be easier if we just won that game. Bengals and then the rams/49ers? Put all of your money on the Chiefs. My thoughts exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: That was the most heartbreaking loss. Just a terrible way to go out No, that would be super bowl 25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: You jam receivers at the line, making it take longer to get downfield and throwing off timing. To let receivers run free and wide open 15 yds down field is simply unbelievable. JAM THEM? YOU TACKLE THEM! There were only 13 ticks left total! Let Mahomes throw a 60 yard Hail Mary with 2 ticks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 It was like playing against my 65 year old dad on Madden, just dumb calls at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Leslie played scared all game and stopped nothing.....a no.1 D doesnt give up 600 yards and 30 first downs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Because KC would not have tried to return a kick. They would have called fair catch (0 seconds off the clock) or grab and kneel and lose 1 second. Or if they kicked it say inside the 10, you let the ball roll into the end zone. Touchback. No time lost. let them have the ball hit the ground and roll around. I doubt they risk that. You don't let a high kick land on the field at the 10 yard line. Too risky that it bounces back and we recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Maine-iac said: BPA or need doesn't dictate us drafting offense. I'm not saying draft defense but I'm not saying not to draft defense either. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rousseau or Basham play much better with Hughes and/or Addison gone after having a season under their belts. I'd go far as to say they were better than Hughes or Addison tonight. They aren't beating their blockers though and that's what we need. I don't care if we get a FA or keep drafting but we need a legit play making pass rusher. I agree we need to be able to stop Mahomes and they weren't getting there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I am completely heartbroken, and I am deeply proud of this team. Two things can be true. I feel like the D let us down, but 1.) that’s where Tre might’ve made the difference, and 2.) what were they supposed to do, really? That’s one of the best games I’ve seen Mahomes play, and Andy Reid is arguably the best offensive mind in NFL history. There’s no shame in getting beat by them. Doesn’t make it hurt any less, but we can still hold our heads high. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 This is what I hate or maybe love about the NFL or football in general. One loss and thats it. No tomorrow, no 2nd chances. I cant think of any other sports (maybe WC soccer) or March madness where you lose and that's it. Any other sport, there are always mulligans or games to regroup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Exactly. How do you not jam them or smack them or even hold them. The last thing you do is let them just float around and get open without any pressure. I know that thinking in the moment in a high pressure situation is difficult but how did they not practice that scenario OVER AND OVER again?? Like what are we going to do if the Chiefs get the ball back and we need to waste time and disrupt them? Are the Bills seriously that stupid that they would not have practiced what D to do in that scenario?? It's really worse than that because all they have to do is get them to milk 13 seconds...He (Mahomes) cannot hold the ball long...He has to get rid of it...They just played it like they did not know what they were doing...Plus they took time outs to play that poorly in that short period of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said: Addison played hurt and produced during the season. I think he even had some sacks. Epenesa stunk and gets zero pressure,along with Rousseau. I'm talking about tonights game. Epenesa made at least a couple of plays. Addison did nothing. Addison made a few plays over the course of the season you're right but he hardly played up to his contract and I'm not sure one of the rookies couldn't have totaled 6 sacks if they had played as many snaps as Addison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Calidiehard said: I don't think I can watch any sports shows this week talking about how great those 2 throws to wide open Hill and Kelce were in the 13 seconds. He has great players around him making great plays. Not saying he doesn't make great plays, but he gets way too much credit for his team making plays and out running the defense. Great oline now too…I thought our dline was playing well considering. I think josh would go absolutely wild on that chiefs team lol Edited January 24, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klumzyfule66 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, klos63 said: why better field position. Teams kick short because you usually get there quicker and tackle before the 25 yard line. Unless they down it where they catch it, it's more than 1 second. I don't disagree with squibbing there (I was okay with it at the time, as I figured Tyreek was back there), but if teams usually get there quicker and tackle before the 25 yard line, then why doesn't every team do that every kick off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think we overrate our defense. Which defensive player on our roster scares anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, klos63 said: That is so Buffalo Someday maybe we can move past that, as a saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: I'll never understand the play calling mindset that says, yeah, let's leave pro bowl receivers wide open 15 yds downfield, especially when the Chiefs still had timeouts. If they were out, that's one thing, but what we watched was inexcusable. That's amateur hour level coaching. You'd think by that time they were tired of seeing Hill run... Guess not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Cash said: I am completely heartbroken, and I am deeply proud of this team. Two things can be true. I feel like the D let us down, but 1.) that’s where Tre might’ve made the difference, and 2.) what were they supposed to do, really? That’s one of the best games I’ve seen Mahomes play, and Andy Reid is arguably the best offensive mind in NFL history. There’s no shame in getting beat by them. Doesn’t make it hurt any less, but we can still hold our heads high. I agree with you, it's like we just needed mahomes to drop slightly and he didn't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I mean couldn't the Bills just intentionally tackle and hold Hill and Kelce for 3 plays. The clock would have run down and they only get 5 yard penalty. Was that a viable strategy? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 That has to be the worst kicking off decision ever made. SQUIB OR KICK IT HIGH and make them fair catch at the 10, There WAS NOTHING TO GAIN from kicking it through the endzone other than to stop the clock and help KC. Too bad we missed a FG as well though so did the Chiefs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The Bills will win a Super Bowl or two, it could have been this year. Two great teams, arguably the two best slugged it out and we literally lost on a coin flip. Bills will be back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Can't blame Beane he has tried but we need someone who can win on the D line. No one on the front 4 was beating anyone on the regular. Oliver might be our best pass rusher and he's at DT. Whatever personnel decision making McD has, particularly on D, needs to be reduced significantly. He doesn't know NFL defensive talent beyond pedestrian types and he definitely can't identify offensive talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The more and more I think about this game it was just malpractice in the final 13 seconds.....did everything you shouldnt do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Cash said: I am completely heartbroken, and I am deeply proud of this team. Two things can be true. I feel like the D let us down, but 1.) that’s where Tre might’ve made the difference, and 2.) what were they supposed to do, really? That’s one of the best games I’ve seen Mahomes play, and Andy Reid is arguably the best offensive mind in NFL history. There’s no shame in getting beat by them. Doesn’t make it hurt any less, but we can still hold our heads high. Tre or no Tre same result. The defensive play calling was atrocious. Sitting back in a soft zone nearly the entire game almost allowing them to catch the ball and then reacting. We effectively shut down Mahomes earlier this year. For some reason, they completely abandoned that defensive game plan and just allowed Mahomes to pick them apart. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, newcam2012 said: I mean couldn't the Bills just intentionally tackle and hold Hill and Kelce for 3 plays. The clock would have run down and they only get 5 yard penalty. Was that a viable strategy? Could have been a good option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, newcam2012 said: I mean couldn't the Bills just intentionally tackle and hold Hill and Kelce for 3 plays. The clock would have run down and they only get 5 yard penalty. Was that a viable strategy? They’d have to release him before mahomes threw the ball or it’s PI every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The PREVENT THE WIN DEFENSE lost again - as it ALWAYS DOES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Honestly he's right, people are going to say Mahomes got the win and drove down just like Josh, but what I remember is Mahomes WR/TEs being wide open. Josh made some ***** crazy throws tonight. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: Someday maybe we can move past that, as a saying Yes please! Every team thinks the same thing about their team, except maybe Patriots fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, OZBILLS said: See the Mitch Morse quote? I reckon we need a new C This one? If so I don’t think he was referring to himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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