Highmark Stadium now requiring vaccination for entry

[Beerball]

1 hour ago, Mr. K said:

They are ruining my love for the game. 

Josh Allen will have less crowd noise....

I hate to bring football into the discussion, but that could be a very good thing. 

[John Adams]

26 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Get the shot. People don't  blink about a flu shot. 

Wacka? Wacka? Is that you? Did someone hack your account? Who is this with the common sense and what have you done with Wacka? 

[teef]

there's really not much to talk about at this point.  if you're not vaccinated, you don't get in.  people can complain all they want.  

[Bills fan since 87]

2 hours ago, SoMAn said:

So, if I'm from out of town and already purchased a non-refundable airline ticket, a game ticket for the Washington game, recovered from Covid in August, and don't need the vaccine or am at risk (pregnancy, etc), I'm screwed.

 

I'd like to see the Erie Co. exec cite Covid-related statistics from the gathering of 70,000 on Sunday* that warrants the abrupt change in policy that may leave some ticket holders high and dry.

 

* guarantee there will be no proof of outbreaks caused by attendees of Sunday's contest.

 

Nah, you're not screwed at all.  Simply just get shot one my man.

[CountDorkula]

2 hours ago, Mr. K said:

They are ruining my love for the game. 

Josh Allen will have less crowd noise....

They will very much miss you.

 

Im sure the bills will reach out to you personally.

[CountDorkula]

1 minute ago, NJKBillsfan said:

How much will this impact overall attendance at home games?

 

Are we looking at significant drop in fans?

No.

[teef]

3 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said:

How much will this impact overall attendance at home games?

 

Are we looking at significant drop in fans?

not in the least.

[May Day 10]

2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

I think I see what you’re saying - by cooperating with the county on this now the Bills are greasing the wheels on the studium funding a bit? I suppose that could be true.

 

 

Just heard the PS&E guy on WGR and he was kind of linking the relationship/cooperation between this policy and stadium talks.

[ArdmoreRyno]

7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Not at all.

 

A negative test would prove you're not going to give it somebody, but wouldn't show you as any less likely to catch it inside and then over the next days till you started feeling bad or got a positive test, give it to others at that point.

 

 

And being full vaccinated does not mean you won't catch it and spread it to another person fully vaccinated. I'm fully vaxx'ed and I gave it to my ex on a trip to Oxford (MS) to move our youngest into college. She's also fully vaccinated. Then 2 weeks later, my dad (doctor, fully vaccinated) got it and gave it to my mother (fully vaccinated). 

 

These vaccines are proving to only possibly help when you catch it.... not really prevent it to get or spread it. 

[QCity]

2 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said:

How much will this impact overall attendance at home games?

 

Are we looking at significant drop in fans?

 

No impact. Despite what the tantrum-throwing minority are saying, there won't be empty sections at the stadium, the ticket market won't change drastically, and the Pegulas won't have to sell their yacht. The stadium noise will be as loud as ever and the Bills' season will go on as normal, the only primary difference will be the guy sitting next to you won't be an advocate for horse deworming pills.

[GottaRun]

11 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said:

How much will this impact overall attendance at home games?

 

Are we looking at significant drop in fans?

No.  NY State shows 81.7% of 18+ have at least 1 shot and when the Ontario fans can come back Ontario is at 85% of eligible adults with at least 1 shot. 
If you still have not had the shot you are in the small minority.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

9 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said:

How much will this impact overall attendance at home games?

 

Are we looking at significant drop in fans?

I asked another poster his perspective on this earlier.  He indicated he would not have attended future games had the scenario been the wild Wild West it apparently had been game 1.  I certainly can understand that perspective.  
 

I’d bet, however, that had the Wild Wild West scenario continued, attendance would have continued to be quite strong.  People complain, one way or the other, but those fearful/concerned at this point likely were not attending regardless.  
 

[ChasBB]

There will be lawsuits.  This is unconstitutional.

Save your dislikes for someone that cares.  I'm just telling you how this will go down.
Doubt me?  Save this post and revisit a month or two from now.

Edited September 15, 2021 by ChasBB
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[T master]

18 hours ago, BuffaloBud said:

As much as I would like to see a game in person, I'll be just as happy watching from home.

 

I wonder if after the next home game when they see the turn out if that will have any bearing on the stadium talks ? 🤔

[Beerball]

16 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

Just heard the PS&E guy on WGR and he was kind of linking the relationship/cooperation between this policy and stadium talks.

There's a PS&E guy?

[Beerball]

4 minutes ago, ChasBB said:

 

Save your dislikes for someone that cares.

Likewise, I'm sure.

Edited September 15, 2021 by Beerball

[nucci]

4 minutes ago, ChasBB said:

There will be lawsuits.  This is unconstitutional.

Save your dislikes for someone that cares.

No, it's not

[Careca]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

See, this sort of thing just bugs the snot out of me to read, no offense.

 

Back in Da Da when a lot of the vaccines were developed - polio, measles, mumps, rubella - the tools and tests available to vaccine developers were laborious and slow.  We have had several revolutions in biological and biopharma techniques in my working lifetime.  What used to take 2 years can sometimes be done in 2 weeks.

 

It's sort of like saying "Historically, it took 200 years to build a cathedral, I don't trust buildings that were constructed in 2 years"  Modern construction techniques make more rapid timelines possible, so why is a Medieval cathedral construction timeline relevant?

 

 

 

*Looks at cathedrals that took 200 years to build*

*Looks at modern churches*

 

You are not really a fan of architecture, are you?

[May Day 10]

I wonder how much overlap there is between people who wont get vaccinated and thinks the Bills are in violation of the Bill of Rights vs people who are boycotting over players kneeling?

 

 

Hogan/Willig is dying for someone to set up a gofundme page for them to put up a ton of billable hours and get free publicity.

[RiotAct]

I’m still genuinely curious why they aren’t offering refunds to single-game ticket buyers now that the new policy (which was not in effect when tix went on sale) is in place.  

 

Especially if it really is in the name of public safety and health.  Should be a small price for the Pegulas to pay, right?

[ArdmoreRyno]

11 minutes ago, nucci said:

No, it's not

 

Maybe not for the Bills/NFL being privately owned... but could see lawsuits for the single season ticket sales. (would be unconstitutional if the gov. tried to make the vaccine mandatory) 

[Mike in Horseheads]

19 minutes ago, Beerball said:

There's a PS&E guy?

I think he reads my electric meter every month

[Bob in STL]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

Anyway while I appreciate the civil tone going on, we're getting pretty general here, could we narrow it back to football relevance?  I get it, some people feel they don't need to be vaccinated because their pristine and magnificent personal state of health makes them unlikely to suffer serious ills.  Hopefully right, maybe wrong, but either way shirks the question of spreading illness to others.  Natural immunity has been shown to be boosted by a vax, so there's that.  But if you don't want the vax and it keeps you out of the stadium, absolutely your right.

 

 

Young healthy people in pristine shape have contracted Covid.  Age and physical condition does not stop that.   Many (not all) of them are asymptomatic or have only minor symptoms, that is true.   During this time they can be spreading it, the purpose of the mask is to stop the spreading, to protect others.  The longer this cycle goes on, the more opportunities for the virus to mutate into something harder to fight.  That is the danger. 

 

We are divided partly because of misinformation and poor leadership.   People today somehow associate taking a vaccine with giving up their freedom and “their rights”.    In my lifetime there has never been less emphasis on the greater good and it says a lot about us as a society and a country today.   
 

To those unsure about the vaccine, talk to your doctor. I assume you trust your doctor.?  Your doctor will tell you your risks.  

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

26 minutes ago, nucci said:

No, it's not

 

 

Nuch, maybe you can try to edit your comments down a bit, my friend.

 

I don't have all day to read through your ruminations.  Be kind to your reader.  Make your point and move on.  

 

 

 

(sorry, but this never gets old to me)

[Teddy KGB]

48 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

No impact. Despite what the tantrum-throwing minority are saying, there won't be empty sections at the stadium, the ticket market won't change drastically, and the Pegulas won't have to sell their yacht. The stadium noise will be as loud as ever and the Bills' season will go on as normal, the only primary difference will be the guy sitting next to you won't be an advocate for horse deworming pills.

Cool story.   Nice touch with the horse pills.  
 

 

[Malazan]

36 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

Maybe not for the Bills/NFL being privately owned... but could see lawsuits for the single season ticket sales. (would be unconstitutional if the gov. tried to make the vaccine mandatory) 

 

How can people be this unaware? The government has been making vaccines mandatory for a long time. 

Edited September 15, 2021 by jeremy2020

[Big Gun]

This policy will be walked back when not enough seats are sold. 

[MAJBobby]

1 hour ago, NJKBillsfan said:

How much will this impact overall attendance at home games?

 

Are we looking at significant drop in fans?

Nope nothing will be affected. No major drop in attendance 

[loyal2dagame]

1 minute ago, Big Gun said:

This policy will be walked back when not enough seats are sold. 

The seats are already sold..... season tickets sold out. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

Just now, jeremy2020 said:

 

How can people be this dumb? The government has been making vaccines mandatory for a long time. 

 

Your post might make you look pretty clueless.... and what you just called others. Stupid. 

There is NO federal requirement for vaccines. Zero. None. 

[Malazan]

Just now, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Your post might make you look pretty clueless.... and what you just called others. Stupid. 

There is NO federal requirement for vaccines. Zero. None. 

 

I see we only have a federal government now.

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

How can people be this unaware? The government has been making vaccines mandatory for a long time. 

Since the document was written that they claim to have read and say mandates are in violation of. 

[SCBills]

Just now, loyal2dagame said:

The seats are already sold..... season tickets sold out. 

 

I doubt people can win a lawsuit forcing them to change their stance on stadium entry, but i'm pretty sure people could win a lawsuit for getting their tickets refunded if the Bills/Highmark refuse to refund tickets to those who bought them prior to the announcement.  

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

This policy will be walked back when not enough seats are sold. 

Enough seats are sold. Isn’t the entire stadium pretty much sold out already? 

[loyal2dagame]

1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Your post might make you look pretty clueless.... and what you just called others. Stupid. 

There is NO federal requirement for vaccines. Zero. None. 

Ask the military.....

[Blainorama5]

4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

There is NO federal requirement for vaccines. Zero. None. 

Try reading the news occasionally...

Edited September 15, 2021 by Blainorama5

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Your post might make you look pretty clueless.... and what you just called others. Stupid. 

There is NO federal requirement for vaccines. Zero. None. 

Raise your hand for the military and tell me again about no federal retirement for vaccines. 

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I doubt people can win a lawsuit forcing them to change their stance on stadium entry, but i'm pretty sure people could win a lawsuit for getting their tickets refunded if the Bills/Highmark refuse to refund tickets to those who bought them prior to the announcement.  

They probably should read the fine print on their ticket transactions. 

[loyal2dagame]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

I doubt people can win a lawsuit forcing them to change their stance on stadium entry, but i'm pretty sure people could win a lawsuit for getting their tickets refunded if the Bills/Highmark refuse to refund tickets to those who bought them prior to the announcement.  

I don't think so.  The ticket is a contract.  Refunds for cancellations only. It was printed on all paper tickets (when they were still used)  and in the agreement you check when signing up for a ticket purchasing site. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

Just now, jeremy2020 said:

 

I see we only have a federal government now.

 

No, we have all levels of government. I'm talking FEDERAL, which I'm correct. There are also NO mandatory vaccines by any state. Yea, if you want to go to school, daycare, etc. But no level of government is telling you... "SIR, YOU HAVE TO GET THE HEP A VACCINE OR YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL!" 

LOL 

[PolishDave]

35 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Young healthy people in pristine shape have contracted Covid.  Age and physical condition does not stop that.   Many (not all) of them are asymptomatic or have only minor symptoms, that is true.   During this time they can be spreading it, the purpose of the mask is to stop the spreading, to protect others.  The longer this cycle goes on, the more opportunities for the virus to mutate into something harder to fight.  That is the danger. 
 

We are divided partly because of misinformation and poor leadership.   People today somehow associate taking a vaccine with giving up their freedom and “their rights”.    In my lifetime there has never been less emphasis on the greater good and it says a lot about us as a society and a country today.   
 

To those unsure about the vaccine, talk to your doctor. I assume you trust your doctor.?  Your doctor will tell you your risks.  

 

Great post Bob!

 

How could I not do what my country has asked of me when this country has given me so much and asked for so little in return?   I think of our holiday – Memorial Day – and think of all the men and women who gave everything – their very lives – to their country even when they may not have agreed with their leader who asked them to serve.    When so many generations of people have given their lives for me and my family so we could try to prosper here; how could I not give back in my own tiny way when I am asked to do so?

 

Complaining because you are asked to do so little (get a shot in your arm) to potentially protect so many from a disease that could kill them.   Good lord.   Think about what you parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles and their generations have been asked to give so you could watch your beloved football.

 

A person saying they’re not worried about Covid because they are healthy enough is acting selfishly in my opinion.   It’s not about you.  It’s about the rest of the people you have the opportunity to help survive.  It is about being an American and caring about other Americans – even ones who disagree with your opinions.