Highmark Stadium now requiring vaccination for entry

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Beast said:

Hope I'm not crossing the line with this question but is it Erie County, the Bills or both behind this?

 

If it was answered earlier, my apologies.

 

Erie County since it is their building, as far as I know.

 

Which brings up an interesting side point: how much of this will resonate with the Pegulas when thinking about having the new stadium publicly funded versus owning it themselves and setting their own rules?

[Wayne Cubed]

Question. It says and other apps? Anyone have any idea which those are. I was vaccinated abroad but want to try to make it back to Buffalo for a game.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Erie County since it is their building, as far as I know.

 

Which brings up an interesting side point: how much of this will resonate with the Pegulas when thinking about having the new stadium publicly funded versus owning it themselves and setting their own rules?

They are saying it is a Joint agreement. 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

But if you get a refund on your seasons you will lose the perks and seniority. Something to think about there. 

Erie County and Bills. It was a joint decision buy what has been said. 

 

1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

 

Serious question: Is joint agreement the same as joint decision?

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Question. It says and other apps? Anyone have any idea which those are. I was vaccinated abroad but want to try to make it back to Buffalo for a game.

The official Government Apps. I think with the uncertainty I would call Bills and ask if a certain digital platform would be accepted. 

[Careca]

I think it is awesome that the community is so involved in this discussion that despite having half the posts removed from the thread twice over two hours we are still over a dozen pages.

 

Keep up the hard work mods! I hope you are compensated well for keeping up with such a challenging task. ❤️

[Simon]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Serious question: Is joint agreement the same as joint decision?

 

I would suggest no.

If I roll one up and pass it around, that is a decision.

If a bunch of people contribute to the salad, that is an agreement.

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Serious question: Is joint agreement the same as joint decision?

I think so. Because the way it is being framed if you look at the tweets is like see don’t worry about the stadium when something needs to be done we together get it done. 
 

it just weird it is also being framed to project about the new stadium discussions. 

Edited September 14, 2021 by MAJBobby

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

I think so. Because the way it is being framed if you look at the tweets is like see don’t worry about the stadium when something needs to be done we together get it done. 

 

I like that.

[Wayne Cubed]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

The official Government Apps. I think with the uncertainty I would call Bills and ask if a certain digital platform would be accepted. 

 
I’ve got physical card and I can get vaccine certification through NHS app, which is accepted for entry to multiple countries. I would assume that does the trick but yea calling and asking would make most sense.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Beast said:

Hope I'm not crossing the line with this question but is it Erie County, the Bills or both behind this?

If it was answered earlier, my apologies.

 

No you're good, this is the kind of query we need this thread for.

 

Poloncarz tweeted about it, so I think it's a good assumption Erie County.

 

But someone also suggested this from the State may be behind it:

https://dol.ny.gov/ny-hero-act

 

 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Wayne Cubed said:

 
I’ve got physical card and I can get vaccine certification through NHS app, which is accepted for entry to multiple countries. I would assume that does the trick but yea calling and asking would make most sense.

Yeah I think the NHS app would be accepted. Because it does say other governments approved digital platforms 

[vanhalen26]

I wonder what I can do coming from Canada, provided the border even opens.

 

We don’t have vaccine cards or digital passports to show.  We have a rather non descript receipt that looks like it came out of a Walmart checkout.

 

Over and above that, the CDC does not yet recognize AstraZeneca which many of us in our 40s and 50s were given.

 

Over and above that, most of us who were given AstraZeneca as a first dose were given Pfizer or Moderna as a second dose, and the CDC does not recognize mixed vaccines as being legitimate (although some studies suggest it’s more effective than two of the same type).  Our brilliant Canadian government said the best vaccine is the one that’s available and didn’t consider the travel implications if it doled out a mixed dosing regimen.  
 

I got AstraZeneca followed by Pfizer.  I may need to fly into any random US state just to get a second Pfizer dose or maybe a single J&J if still offered (just to keep things simple), so I can visit the US when the borders open and also attend Bills games.  
 

It’s a gong show.

[dwight in philly]

totally agree , i like to offer opinions , and cant believe people would threaten others.., not right 

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, Process said:

Good. The policy before this was absolutely useless. This should have been what they did from the beginning.

Give some people a rope, they hang themselves.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, vanhalen26 said:

I wonder what I can do coming from Canada, provided the border even opens.

 

We don’t have vaccine cards or digital passports to show.  We have a rather non descript receipt that looks like it came out of a Walmart checkout.

 

Over and above that, the CDC does not yet recognize AstraZeneca which many of us in our 40s and 50s were given.

 

Over and above that, most of us who were given AstraZeneca as a first dose were given Pfizer or Moderna as a second dose, and the CDC does not recognize mixed vaccines as being legitimate (although some studies suggest it’s more effective than two of the same type).  Our brilliant Canadian government said the best vaccine is the one that’s available and didn’t consider the travel implications if it doled out a mixed dosing regimen.  
 

I got AstraZeneca followed by Pfizer.  I may need to fly into any random US state just to get a second Pfizer dose or maybe a single J&J if still offered (just to keep things simple), so I can visit the US when the borders open and also attend Bills games.  
 

It’s a gong show.

We hear a lot of griping about vaccines, most of which is just that: idle griping.

But I gotta admit it: you make a good point here. As we approach the one-year anniversary of approved vaccines, it's time for our U.S. governments and our foreign partners to get this coordinated. Silly arbitrary rules don't do much to encourage faith in government ...

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, vanhalen26 said:

I wonder what I can do coming from Canada, provided the border even opens.

 

We don’t have vaccine cards or digital passports to show.  We have a rather non descript receipt that looks like it came out of a Walmart checkout.

 

Over and above that, the CDC does not yet recognize AstraZeneca which many of us in our 40s and 50s were given.

 

Over and above that, most of us who were given AstraZeneca as a first dose were given Pfizer or Moderna as a second dose, and the CDC does not recognize mixed vaccines as being legitimate (although some studies suggest it’s more effective than two of the same type).  Our brilliant Canadian government said the best vaccine is the one that’s available and didn’t consider the travel implications if it doled out a mixed dosing regimen.  
 

I got AstraZeneca followed by Pfizer.  I may need to fly into any random US state just to get a second Pfizer dose or maybe a single J&J if still offered (just to keep things simple), so I can visit the US when the borders open and also attend Bills games.  
 

It’s a gong show.

Yeah don’t think AZ is honored by this tweet. 

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Yeah don’t think AZ is honored by this tweet. 

 

I would take it as him providing examples since those are the predominant vaccines available here but it not being mentioned isn't a great sign to the Canadians with az vaccine

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

I would take it as him providing examples since those are the predominant vaccines available here but it not being mentioned isn't a great sign to the Canadians with az vaccine

Is the border still closed?  If able to get in come in and take a JJ or start the two shot cycle of the others. Gonna tweet at him and see if he answers about AZ though. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

18 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Question. It says and other apps? Anyone have any idea which those are. I was vaccinated abroad but want to try to make it back to Buffalo for a game.

That's a good question.  We faced the same issue at our health care organization and we got the state to approve any WHO approved vaccine not just the three approved in the US

[Augie]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Pretty easy Felony arrest too

 

My old bosses good friend forged some passes to the Masters one year. He had no idea what kind of deep kaka he was getting into. The guy was an orthodontist who had never been in trouble with the law….until he very much was.  Those guys don’t mess around! 

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Nice. I can recoup my tickets with the money I receive after successfully suing them. 

What he used to say…

[vanhalen26]

The border is closed if driving over, but open if you fly.  That makes sense, right?

 

Anyways, I found I could fly to NYC and back home for $200 if I go on a low demand day and off times.  Figure I may just fly in and out and get my shot.  I’ll also need to take a $200 covid test to travel, and might need to take one to return.  It’s a mess.  
 

The land travel closure continues to be extended by Biden by another month on or about the 21st of each month, so I’m hoping he finally opens it this month.  Apparently the concern is that opening Canada and Mexico must be done together, but Mexico still has concerning covid issues (and Canada is better off than the US at this point), so Canada is being held back due to Mexico.  Meanwhile Canada opened its borders to US travelers a month or two back, and to global travelers one month after we opened to US visitors.

[Da webster guy]

I was at the Baltimore playoff game and it really isn't that big of a deal to rock out and have fun while still wearing a mask.   

[OZBILLS]

Good news.

 

Glad they're putting the safety of the unvaccinated as number 1 priority.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Is the border still closed?  If able to get in come in and take a JJ or start the two shot cycle of the others. Gonna tweet at him and see if he answers about AZ though. 

Last I heard americans can get into Canada but canadians aren't allowed into America (if I am wrong please correct me)

 

Thats a good idea, I have to imagine its something that would effect a number of Canadian bills fans 

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, zow2 said:

The only part that triggers me is that a photo of the card is not acceptable.  So us out of towners need to remember to bring the actual paper 3x5 card on the plane and then remember to bring it to the game.  Can't imagine how many folks will forget it at home.  Just an extra layer of pain in the a$$.    

Consider it as a vaccine passport 😎

[John from Riverside]

While I am vaxed and believe other people should be vaxed I have been against forcing the issue but making them get negative tests.

 

I do wonder if something has happened that is causing this change in policy......did the NFL turn into a super spreader event and it hasnt come out yet (I certainly do not want that)

[Ethan in Cleveland]

25 minutes ago, vanhalen26 said:

I wonder what I can do coming from Canada, provided the border even opens.

 

We don’t have vaccine cards or digital passports to show.  We have a rather non descript receipt that looks like it came out of a Walmart checkout.

 

Over and above that, the CDC does not yet recognize AstraZeneca which many of us in our 40s and 50s were given.

 

Over and above that, most of us who were given AstraZeneca as a first dose were given Pfizer or Moderna as a second dose, and the CDC does not recognize mixed vaccines as being legitimate (although some studies suggest it’s more effective than two of the same type).  Our brilliant Canadian government said the best vaccine is the one that’s available and didn’t consider the travel implications if it doled out a mixed dosing regimen.  
 

I got AstraZeneca followed by Pfizer.  I may need to fly into any random US state just to get a second Pfizer dose or maybe a single J&J if still offered (just to keep things simple), so I can visit the US when the borders open and also attend Bills games.  
 

It’s a gong show.

All good points that need clarification/resolution

[Mike in Horseheads]

Is Erie County or the Pegulas in charge of security at the Ralph?

 

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Last I heard americans can get into Canada but canadians aren't allowed into America (if I am wrong please correct me)

 

Thats a good idea, I have to imagine its something that would effect a number of Canadian bills fans 

Tweeted at Erie, Pegulas and all reporters trying to define if AstraZeneca is an approved vaccine for entry (I would imagine the answer would be Yes, but never know I guess). I will post any responses 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

While I am vaxed and believe other people should be vaxed I have been against forcing the issue but making them get negative tests.

 

I do wonder if something has happened that is causing this change in policy......did the NFL turn into a super spreader event and it hasnt come out yet (I certainly do not want that)

I believe it is because the CDC does not support surveillance testing in lieu of vaccination.  And that is how many governor mandates and employer mandates have been rolled out in the last several weeks.  

[Rc2catch]

6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

While I am vaxed and believe other people should be vaxed I have been against forcing the issue but making them get negative tests.

 

I do wonder if something has happened that is causing this change in policy......did the NFL turn into a super spreader event and it hasnt come out yet (I certainly do not want that)

I don’t think it’s an NFL thing or anything happening or they would be forcing other stadiums to comply to these policies The league would never allow stadiums to be no mask no vaccine if there was data of super spreading. They’d get out ahead of it to prevent any backlash imo. 

Edited September 14, 2021 by Rc2catch

[OZBILLS]

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

One of my main issues with it is as an out of state resident, I will have to carry my physical card.  A picture of it is not accepted.  I don't like carrying the original anywhere, could get lost.  

Try having to bring your PASSPORT with you to games in the US because they won't accept you're under 21 to get a beer when you're 40!

 

Get drunk, lose your passport and you're gonna have a bad time

[MAJBobby]

Right now only Bills and Vegas have mandatory vaccines to get into stadiums. Others have a testing requirement in leu of a vaccine before entry. 

[snafu]

2 hours ago, SDS said:

it’s fine that you think that, but I also think it’s nuts that you think that. What in the world could possibly make you think that they need to check for every disease known to man or nothing?

Yet they don’t prevent people who have never received a measles vaccine (for example) from going places other than grammar and high school.

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 minute ago, snafu said:

Yet they don’t prevent people who have never received a measles vaccine (for example) from going places other than grammar and high school.

 

SMH...is there a measles pandemic right now?

[Jauronimo]

Just now, snafu said:

Yet they don’t prevent people who have never received a measles vaccine (for example) from going places other than grammar and high school.

 

Sounds like mandatory vaccination to attend public schools, private schools, and serve in the military has been highly effective.

[OZBILLS]

Lockouts like this are the only thing that is going to drive vaccination up.

 

They do need a pop up vaccination site close 

[716er]

High marks to those at Highmark for this decision