Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Human Plow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 MLB, have to be very instinctive and have top athleticism. TE would be very high on the list if you were a true complete TE, blocking schemes and route trees. I didn't include QB because I think we all know that is the most difficult position hands down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 Anyone who said “QB” is obviously not thinking straight. You’re saying Tom Brady plays the most difficult position in sports (dink, dunk, hand off, sneak) and Tre White doesn’t (trying to cover Speedsters, crossing routes, deep routes, keeping eye on RB’s, tackling TE’s and RB’s). You’re all out of your gourds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Anyone who said “QB” is obviously not thinking straight. You’re saying Tom Brady plays the most difficult position in sports (dink, dunk, hand off, sneak) and Tre White doesn’t (trying to cover Speedsters, crossing routes, deep routes, keeping eye on RB’s, tackling TE’s and RB’s). You’re all out of your gourds. There are 3 other DBs doing the same thing at the same time with Tre. Only 1 QB. Has to decipher the D, go through every option based on his reading of the D and direct the entire offense—all in the seconds before and after the snap—on every play. Its QB and it’s not even close 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: There are 3 other DBs doing the same thing at the same time with Tre. Only 1 QB. Has to decipher the D, go through every option based on his reading of the D and direct the entire offense—all in the seconds before and after the snap—on every play. Its QB and it’s not even close Handing the ball off?? You kiddin’ me? Or trolling? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Handing the ball off?? You kiddin’ me? Or trolling? lol yes---the QB just hands the ball off all the time. No I was referring to the 62% of the plays where Allen and Brady threw the ball. Run plays? Most of those the DB jogs along with his WR a bit until the whistle blows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Piledriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 If you're not in great shape, "the wheelbarrow" is pretty tough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: lol yes---the QB just hands the ball off all the time. No I was referring to the 62% of the plays where Allen and Brady threw the ball. Run plays? Most of those the DB jogs along with his WR a bit until the whistle blows. Once again, you need to factor in the offense knows what they are doing. He defense plays reactionary. Especially CB. There can be no debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Director of Electronic Intelligence. Only the New England Patriots have mastered it. 🤨 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 12 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Definitely a QB in football, he has to know everyone's position and then physically make all the right moves. There are only about 12 great QBs on the planet, much less than all other positions, hence why they are paid most. Agreed for these reasons plus the fact of having to pre-read defenses and pressures to get his players into the right position with the play calls or audible out if he feels the defense has the advantage on a particular play call. Followed by CB. With all the new rules favoring the WR's, a CB has to play so carefully to not get flagged, plus be instinctive and incredibly athletic. With receivers now gaining a height advantage too, it's really hard to be a shutdown corner on a teams #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Once again, you need to factor in the offense knows what they are doing. He defense plays reactionary. Especially CB. There can be no debate. Stay with your man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 12 hours ago, K-9 said: Kama sutra #53. Really tough on the lower back and hamstrings. But totally worth the effort. Thanks!!! Me and the Mrs. are gonna try this one..... Go BILLS!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 CB or Center. Center has to set the blocking with the other OL, while worry about getting a clean snap and blocking instantly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: CB or Center. Center has to set the blocking with the other OL, while worry about getting a clean snap and blocking instantly. Was just going to post C but you beat me to it. If you have a bad center the run game suffers and you'll have people in the QB's face all day. Kent Hull was always a favorite Bill of mine for that reason. Underrated player/understated gentleman. R.I.P coming up on 10 years already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Anyone who said “QB” is obviously not thinking straight. You’re saying Tom Brady plays the most difficult position in sports (dink, dunk, hand off, sneak) and Tre White doesn’t (trying to cover Speedsters, crossing routes, deep routes, keeping eye on RB’s, tackling TE’s and RB’s). You’re all out of your gourds. You can argue that CB requires more physical skills and demands than any other position. It is the hardest position on Defense. QB is the only position that adds in the throwing arm and the only position that you possess the ball (while in play) on every offensive play. Today’s QB must throw and run. QB more is far more mentally demanding and requires split second decision making. In the league today, their are more elite and top level CBs than there are QBs. QB is the hardest position to draft and develop. It comes down to numbers and QB talent is the rarest, and the hardest to draft and develop. Since Jim Kelly retired we have drafted numerous Pro Bowl CB’s (Clements, Winfield, Gilmore and White) and only 1 impact QB in Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Anyone who said “QB” is obviously not thinking straight. You’re saying Tom Brady plays the most difficult position in sports (dink, dunk, hand off, sneak) and Tre White doesn’t (trying to cover Speedsters, crossing routes, deep routes, keeping eye on RB’s, tackling TE’s and RB’s). You’re all out of your gourds. Insightful (inciteful?) commentary as such shows why your office is the mecca for informed discourse in your town. 😁 How is Gabby Greta? * I do agree that the nature of a defensive back's assignment is probably the most difficult. Always required to be a reactionary to the play, and hope there's not a 'flag happy' officiating crew. Edited September 4, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Anyone who said “QB” is obviously not thinking straight. You’re saying Tom Brady plays the most difficult position in sports (dink, dunk, hand off, sneak) and Tre White doesn’t (trying to cover Speedsters, crossing routes, deep routes, keeping eye on RB’s, tackling TE’s and RB’s). You’re all out of your gourds. Nonsense. Brady was most of the reason they won those SBs, and it wasn't because he handed off well. It was because he made decisions better than any other QB for about fifteen years and then accurately made those decisions work. If it was all that easy, there'd be a ton of Bradys. Only about 10 guys in the world play QB well enough to put their teams in a position to win a Super Bowl on a consistent basis. CBs don't have as much of an impact, but there are an awful lot more guys who can play the position at a high level than there are QBs. CBs certainly have a much harder job in terms of athleticism needed. But QBs have to have accuracy and arm strength to a certain standard, and that isn't all that easy to do physically either, especially when guys are trying to sack you. And the mental part of the job, not to mention the mental preparation, is a ton harder for QBs. Physically, someone above said TE, and I think that's right. TEs who can do it all have to be athletic beyond belief, really really tough, and yet terrifically fast for their size. Edited September 4, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Director of Electronic Intelligence. Only the New England Patriots have mastered it. 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, K-9 said: That might be a custom designed 'Etch-a-Sketch'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) If your criteria is weighted toward the mental challenge, of course it's QB, and it's not close. If you're talking about enduring physical beatings, then you can debate four or five different positions, including running back and nose tackle. There are a couple positions that have unique challenges. A tight end is challenged by having to be both a skill position player and enduring the physical challenge of blocking big men. Cornerbacks face the challenge of having to react to extremely fast and athletic WRs in an era where the rules all favor the offensive player. Edited September 5, 2021 by BigAl2526 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Anyone who said “QB” is obviously not thinking straight. You’re saying Tom Brady plays the most difficult position in sports (dink, dunk, hand off, sneak) and Tre White doesn’t (trying to cover Speedsters, crossing routes, deep routes, keeping eye on RB’s, tackling TE’s and RB’s). You’re all out of your gourds. Yeah, calling out line protections pre snap to pick up the blitz, reading the coverage that D coordinators spend days disguising. Leading guys like Tre with their eyes to open an extra 6 inches of room to put the ball in. Audibles....yeah they just hand the ball off, crazy I didn't see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Long snapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Considering that in any given year there are less than ten people out of 7.8 billion on Earth who are consistently great at it, I would hazard a guess that it is quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbs Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 My favorite part about football is that questions like this have no meaningful answers. Apart from Left Guard vs. Right Guard, how many positions are really comparable? Which is harder, left tackle or slot receiver? It's like comparing insurance adjusters to veterinarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, mbs said: My favorite part about football is that questions like this have no meaningful answers. Apart from Left Guard vs. Right Guard, how many positions are really comparable? Which is harder, left tackle or slot receiver? It's like comparing insurance adjusters to veterinarians. Excluding QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbs Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Excluding QB. My point is that it would be much harder for Josh Allen to play left tackle than it would for him to play QB. Linebacker, maybe he could do that. QB is the most important position so it's more of a problem when your guy is average, but that's different from saying the position itself is harder to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 QB then CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Wear and tear / taking a beating, or intellectually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 19 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: QB, RB, WR, OL, C, TE, DL, DE, LB, CB, S, LS, P or K? My opinion: CB So much easier to find a corner then it is a qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 19 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: QB, RB, WR, OL, C, TE, DL, DE, LB, CB, S, LS, P or K? My opinion: CB QB - it isn't even close. NFL salaries reflect this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 16 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Waterboy... Lol I was just going to say that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 It could be finding a white cornerback. WFT kept Troy Apke, the first white CB since Jason Sehorn in 2002. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: It could be finding a white cornerback. WFT kept Troy Apke, the first white CB since Jason Sehorn in 2002. They converted Apke from Safety?! W00t!!! Love it... Sehorn should be in the HoF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 QB and it isn't even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) Last I checked I've never seen a CB make 40M/yr. Yes it's a challenging position but the weight of the world is on a qb. If a top qb goes down the point spread moves 2-3 points. That doesn't happen for a cb. Half the time CB's play zone. Qb is the hardest position in all of sports and it always will be. Edited September 5, 2021 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 QB. Plain and simple and it’s not remotely close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 … the hardest position…, let me get out my copy of the Kama sutra, and have a look see, I’ll get back to you on this…, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 9/3/2021 at 10:44 PM, Alphadawg7 said: QB is hands down the most difficult and complicated position in all of team sports to play. Catcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Catcher If Catchers had 300 pound superfreaks running full speed at them and trying to rip their heads off or crack their ribs every pitch, it still wouldn't be harder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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