Greg S Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Red King said: Let's not become Patriots fans, guys. Let me explain. The Bills were once the powerhouse of the AFC East, and the lowly Pats were the trash. Always in the basement. I felt bad for their fans. Then Brady stepped up just as the Bills were fading. Then came the arrogant Pats fans, talking not only like they were great, but that they were always great, forgetting they were just in our position. Now it's our turn. The Jets have taken our place. Let's stay classy. 😉 You know how it is in the AFC East. "F" the Pats, Dolphins, and Jets. I wish nothing but losing , frustrating seasons for all three of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Well Lance signed 30 minutes ago leaving Wilson as the only 1st rounder not signed https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31904984/san-francisco-49ers-trey-lance-signs-rookie-deal-new-york-jets-zach-wilson-last-unsigned-top-pick Edited July 28, 2021 by Starr Almighty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 19 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Cursed. I believe until the Johnsons dont own the team, the jets will flounder. Could be. Look what happened to the Bills after Ralph left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Greg S said: You know how it is in the AFC East. "F" the Pats, Dolphins, and Jets. I wish nothing but losing , frustrating seasons for all three of them. you left out the key word at the end. "Forever." Hell, I still have a hard time rooting for the Colts ("things an old man would say, for $500 Alex). The Frank Reich thing causes me a slight moment of confusion before my hatred settles back in. But yes, we should still be classy. In our hatred. Edited July 28, 2021 by maddenboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 hours ago, The Red King said: Let's not become Patriots fans, guys. Let me explain. The Bills were once the powerhouse of the AFC East, and the lowly Pats were the trash. Always in the basement. I felt bad for their fans. Then Brady stepped up just as the Bills were fading. Then came the arrogant Pats fans, talking not only like they were great, but that they were always great, forgetting they were just in our position. Now it's our turn. The Jets have taken our place. Let's stay classy. 😉 Well, Bills fans should probably stay consistent and not change, which means we will continue to mock the Jets and every dumb thing they do. I know I've been doing it my whole life, basically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 23 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Guddammit! Just when it looked like Pufnstuf had found his Jimmy! 😠 But does Wilson have the magic flute? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, MJS said: Well, Bills fans should probably stay consistent and not change, which means we will continue to mock the Jets and every dumb thing they do. I know I've been doing it my whole life, basically. Yeah I mean mocking doesn't necessarily mean you don't feel bad for them, but pointing out stupid things that organization does is never going away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: But does Wilson have the magic flute? I have always had Christopher Johnson pegged as a flute player...🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Yeah I mean mocking doesn't necessarily mean you don't feel bad for them, but pointing out stupid things that organization does is never going away. Why would we ever feel bad for them or anyone in the division for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Yeah I mean mocking doesn't necessarily mean you don't feel bad for them, but pointing out stupid things that organization does is never going away. I don't feel bad for them in the slightest. I'd be totally fine if they continued to suck for all of existence. The Jets are one of those organizations I just really don't like. I have felt bad for the Dolphins in the past and many other bad teams, but not the Jets. But, I do feel bad for some of the players who have to go there, Zach Wilson included. He seems like a good kid with some potential. He'll get ruined just like Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) All I can say is: Schaden-b**er. Edited July 28, 2021 by Dukestreetking Bad, bad language 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Adam Schefter on Twitter: "With Zach Wilson unsigned and the team still in need of another veteran QB anyway, the Jets are scheduled to work out QBs Josh Johnson and Sean Mannion on Thursday, per sources." / Twitter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Greg S said: Adam Schefter on Twitter: "With Zach Wilson unsigned and the team still in need of another veteran QB anyway, the Jets are scheduled to work out QBs Josh Johnson and Sean Mannion on Thursday, per sources." / Twitter SAVED! We talk about things being Billsy but this situation is truly Jetsy. Edited July 29, 2021 by Sundancer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Holding out for Q-Tips and baby powder, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 6:26 PM, syhuang said: This tells me that it is on the Jest org. The agent is just holding firm to the precedent the league - and the Jets - set and followed in the past. The Jest org is trying to change it to the team’s advantage. No decent agent would let that happen. So the Jest are gonna lose this one. So stupid to do it at all, but especially with a QB you need in house. Jest gonna Jest I guess. They are in the top 3 or 4 worst run organizations in the league and arguably the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 18 hours ago, Dukestreetking said: All I can say is: Schaden-b**er. Ein Scheißmeister! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: This tells me that it is on the Jest org. The agent is just holding firm to the precedent the league - and the Jets - set and followed in the past. The Jest org is trying to change it to the team’s advantage. No decent agent would let that happen. So the Jest are gonna lose this one. So stupid to do it at all, but especially with a QB you need in house. Jest gonna Jest I guess. They are in the top 3 or 4 worst run organizations in the league and arguably the worst. Surprised the Jets are being cheap. They are a big market NFL football team. Every NFL team is a cash cow. It really makes no sense what they are doing but like you said Jets gonna Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 18 hours ago, Greg S said: Adam Schefter on Twitter: "With Zach Wilson unsigned and the team still in need of another veteran QB anyway, the Jets are scheduled to work out QBs Josh Johnson and Sean Mannion on Thursday, per sources." / Twitter Ouch!! Looks like the Jets are gonna be a dumpster fire again this year. Shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 If it’s really over the bonus structure and offset language the Jets are beyond stupid. Especially the offset language, NFL teams can basically print money and if you were worried Wilson wasn’t gonna be the guy, why did you pick him at number 2??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Whats worse is the jets did not learn from situations in the past like the Chiefs, Bills, Chargers, Phins, and have a viable veteran QB who could play and/or mentor or ease the burden of expectations....or build a smart QB room. I think this is a critical tool to build an NFL QB...but Jets gonna jest. Edited July 29, 2021 by RichRiderBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 The real problem with the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Greg S said: The real problem with the Jets. The color green? I am not sure changing colors would improve them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 There’s no substitution for being out on the field with your teammates running actual plays and jelling as a unit, learning each other’s tendencies, etc. The Jets are ensuring more top 5 draft pick finishes—mission accomplished Woody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Per WFAN...Wilson signs 4 years 35.1 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 This is mostly on the JETS...they are reportedly trying to push millions of the signing bonus back into 2022 and team and league precedent is that it is paid within 15-30 days of it coming due... I mean seriously? This is how you want to start things off with the future of your franchise? Arguing over paying a signing bonus he is due to receive? Just reeks of amateurishness on the JETS organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Big Turk said: This is mostly on the JETS...they are reportedly trying to push millions of the signing bonus back into 2022 and team and league precedent is that it is paid within 15-30 days of it coming due... I mean seriously? This is how you want to start things off with the future of your franchise? Arguing over paying a signing bonus he is due to receive? Just reeks of amateurishness on the JETS organization. Wilson signed today 4 years 35.1 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Greg S said: Wilson signed today 4 years 35.1 million. Well I guess that was inevitable. But not sure that's going to be money well spent by the Jets when Zach is running for his life on game day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 35 minutes ago, Greg S said: Per WFAN...Wilson signs 4 years 35.1 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Man I was getting used to the circus. But I'll take the Salah Era starting off with bad blood between the QB and the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I doubt there is any bad blood. He is in camp and this is a nothing story. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, Greg S said: Wilson signed today 4 years 35.1 million. I saw that..like 5 minutes after I posted or maybe even while I was posting haha That doesn't change the fact it's an incredibly poor look on the JETS part to try and push guaranteed money into next year for hopefully the face of their franchise for the next 10-12 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: The color green? I am not sure changing colors would improve them. Maybe a little more Lime? 🤪😂 As far as Wilson, it just reassures the Jets are a shirt show, but at least Wilson’s camp came to its senses and knew they needed to get into camp. If he is what the Jets need, then he’ll make more than enough $ in four years. It’s not like $35.1 mil. Is exactly poor. Edited July 29, 2021 by machine gun kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: I saw that..like 5 minutes after I posted or maybe even while I was posting haha That doesn't change the fact it's an incredibly poor look on the JETS part to try and push guaranteed money into next year for hopefully the face of their franchise for the next 10-12 years. That's how you build a Rodgers-Packers-esque relationship.... Let's hope Wilson doesn't become anywhere near that good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Big Turk said: This is mostly on the JETS...they are reportedly trying to push millions of the signing bonus back into 2022 and team and league precedent is that it is paid within 15-30 days of it coming due... I mean seriously? This is how you want to start things off with the future of your franchise? Arguing over paying a signing bonus he is due to receive? Just reeks of amateurishness on the JETS organization. Per Schefter, compromise was Wilson gets all his signing bonus, Jets get offset language. It's really not a great look to hold up the signing of your #2 overall draft pick because you want offset language in his contract. "Hey Zack, we expect you to be the Face of the Franchise and have a long successful career here.... but just in case it doesn't last 4 years sign here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 14 hours ago, Limeaid said: The color green? I am not sure changing colors would improve them. Of course YOU'D defend the color green, LIMEaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Ok, cue the obnoxious Jimmy Spags contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Blainorama5 said: Well I guess that was inevitable. But not sure that's going to be money well spent by the Jets when Zach is running for his life on game day! You absolutely could be right. And a QB's development greatly depends on his environment. Darnold was delayed, sidetracked and probably hurt by the last group there. But I think Wilson could be a good one. 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's really not a great look to hold up the signing of your #2 overall draft pick because you want offset language in his contract. "Hey Zack, we expect you to be the Face of the Franchise and have a long successful career here.... but just in case it doesn't last 4 years sign here Yup. Totally agree here. It was only a day or two, but not a good look. Edited July 30, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Shocked the Jets let it get to the final hour. They don’t have a vet QB on the roster and Wilson is supposed to be the future. Why haggle over offset language? Just seems like a sign of poor management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: Shocked the Jets let it get to the final hour. They don’t have a vet QB on the roster and Wilson is supposed to be the future. Why haggle over offset language? Just seems like a sign of poor management. It's not the offset language that shocks me, it's trying to get him to defer payment of his signing bonus. Seriously? You don't have to be a Financial Geniusssss to understand Net Present Value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I do think the Jest are a relatively cash-strapped team. If not, then they have orders from on-high to behave as such. A silver lining for the NFL at large, is that the league can use this as evidence that there is no collusion in the NFL. Just because one team (or 31) do something, doesnt mean that everybody else follows. In fact, we have teams trying to put toothpaste back into tubes (to counteract any potentially precedent setting moves by clubs). Best I can do. Otherwise, Jests is just Jesting, as usual. Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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