Cole Beasley announces he will not be following Covid protocols, willing to retire

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, Boxcar said:

Thought it was obvious, but the point is he didn't agree to this, nor did he have a say in its implementation.

 

I'm sure there is boilerplate language in the contracts agreeing to abide by the CBA and any additional rules agreed to by the NFL/NFLPA.

There's a process, the NFL didn't just impose these protocols, the NFLPA (his reps) had a chance to discuss and negotiate.

[Don Otreply]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

If we cut him outright, we save $4M on the cap this year.

There is that, 👍

 

and one more thing,

 

in before the lock 😂

[Hapless Bills Fan]

31 minutes ago, wppete said:

After reading his tweets from today I feel Cole retires. Just a guess. I wonder how many other players do the same? Should be an entertaining next few months that’s for sure. 

 

Sir, I respect your views and respect you as a poster here, but you have odd-ass notions of entertainment. 

That is all.

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, Boxcar said:

How do you spread it to teammates that have been vaccinated?

 

Vaccines aren't mandatory. Follow me here, so if Bease isn't vaccinated, then other players may not be vaccinated...

 

The vaccine is also not full proof. Kind of like condoms... Don't want to use a condom, cool. There are potential consequences... Also try not to ***** over your teammates. 

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Be a baby and not get vaccinated?

 

My God.

 

 

 

How is Cole or any player that doesn't get vaccinated "not protecting" anyone else - the other non vaccinated have clearly made a choice and are living life accepting the risks. 

 

The other players and personnel that would like to have near zero risk of getting it are fully vaccinated.  

 

Why does anyone care at this point and how did the NFL and NFLPA think this was the best course of action.

 

 

I want to hear logic.  Any freaking logic.  

 

 

Dude, are you not reading/understanding the issue here?

 

No one cares that he isnt vaccinated. But if you CHOOSE to not get vaccinated then you have to follow the protocols as agreed upon by the NFLPA. And he is saying he WILL NOT follow those protocols either. You dont get to have everything your way with no consequences. THAT is being a baby.

[Rochesterfan]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Did you miss the season last year or something?  This is just two a several he had last year.

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/john-brown-with-a-46-yard-touchdown-catch-from-josh-allen-bills-at-dolphins

 

https://www.nfl.com/videos/josh-allen-unloads-perfect-55-yard-bomb-to-stefon-diggs

 

Don’t feed the troll - let him starve.  

[Don Otreply]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Because he doesn’t want to get the vaccine?

 

Nah. You work this out behind closed doors. You don’t just release a guy who your offense heavily relies on. 

You do if his actions endanger the rest of the team, oh and I did say “if” twice…,

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Because he doesn’t want to get the vaccine?

 

Nah. You work this out behind closed doors. You don’t just release a guy who your offense heavily relies on. 

 

Again, NO THAT IS NOT WHY. read what Bease is saying.

[stevestojan]

4 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

IMO Cole is a good man.  He is a great Bill and I hope he will be on the team this year and active.  

I disagree with his stance but can mostly respect a guy who comes from that place.  But I totally disagree with the histrionic melt down on social media and think it is a mistake.   

 

Well, I think this sums it up perfectly.
 

None of us are mad at him for not getting the vaccine (even though some of us think that’s incredibly stupid) we’re mad about how he’s handling it as we’re heading into a season with enormous potential. 

 

Don’t need the distraction. 

[Boxcar]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm sure there is boilerplate language in the contracts agreeing to abide by the CBA and any additional rules agreed to by the NFL/NFLPA.

There's a process, the NFL didn't just impose these protocols, the NFLPA (his reps) had a chance to discuss and negotiate.

The point was that people are acting like he made a choice to enter the NFLPA with this in mind. Up to like March of last year, restrictions like this would be inconceivable. I'm not contesting that he is bound by the CBA and NFLPA. It's a philosophical argument.

[Mickey]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I get both sides of it.  He has every right to not get the shot.  

That's not the issue, he also wants to be able to break league rules. Rules the league and the player's union have debated, argued, studied and kvetched about for months and in the end, agreed upon. 

[Malazan]

Also, remember when people on here were all over the media because the Bills said they weren't going to discuss individual's vaccination status? Why are the same people not all over Beasely for breaking that?

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Because he doesn’t want to get the vaccine?

 

Nah. You work this out behind closed doors. You don’t just release a guy who your offense heavily relies on. 

 

He has two options.  Get the vaccine or follow the protocols.  If he's not going to do either, then you have a problem.

[Reader]

1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Don’t feed the troll - let him starve.  

 

Yeah

 

I think it was 10 posts apart of

 

Do YoUr OwN ReSeArCh

 

And the dude literally asking for others to do their own research about JA

[rayray808]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He is free to retire, sure.

 

He is free to remain in the NFL, not get the vaccine, and follow the NFL/NFLPA protocols for unvaccinated players.

He is free to challenge those protocols and try to get them modified.

 

He doesn't have the choice to remain in the NFL, not get the vaccine, and thumb his nose at the protocols the NFL and NFLPA agreed to as part of their CBA.

 

 

 

THIS

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Just now, Boxcar said:

The point was that people are acting like he made a choice to enter the NFLPA with this in mind. Up to like March of last year, restrictions like this would be inconceivable. I'm not contesting that he is bound by the CBA and NFLPA. It's a philosophical argument.

 

I'm not sure he really chose to enter the NFLPA except by choosing the be in the NFL. It's not like there is actually a choice to join or not. That's a whole larger subject/problem but it is not clear how the sports industry could work without it.

[Malazan]

1 minute ago, Boxcar said:

The point was that people are acting like he made a choice to enter the NFLPA with this in mind. Up to like March of last year, restrictions like this would be inconceivable. I'm not contesting that he is bound by the CBA and NFLPA. It's a philosophical argument.

 

Again, he has options as has been explained to you several times by various people. He doesn't like his options and wants everything to change to suit him personally which is what people have a problem with. 

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

No. We’re just the Bickering Stadium Wallers 

Actually, it was the same year (‘89). House Ballard’s missed block got Kelly injured and Jimbo went off. Thurman retaliated while Reich went 3-0. The team got their act together enough to win the Division and lost a heartbreaker to Cleveland in the playoffs. But that game ‘created’ the K-Gun. By ‘90, everything was happiness and unicorns.

Rico ‘the Rock!’ ‘If ya Sa-MEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOW! What the Rico is cookin’!’

I love his podcast 🤣

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Vaccines aren't mandatory. Follow me here, so if Bease isn't vaccinated, then other players may not be vaccinated...

 

The vaccine is also not full proof. Kind of like condoms... Don't want to use a condom, cool. There are potential consequences... Also try not to ***** over your teammates. 

 

 

especially if you're not wearing a condom.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Endanger the team? 
 

If McD and co have as much buy in and such a strong culture as they lead on,

then one guys difference of opinion shouldn’t endanger the team. 

 

Scott, youre better than this. You are completely missing a huge part of what is happening with Beasley.

[Pokebball]

2 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Vaccines aren't mandatory. Follow me here, so if Bease isn't vaccinated, then other players may not be vaccinated...

 

The vaccine is also not full proof. Kind of like condoms... Don't want to use a condom, cool. There are potential consequences... Also try not to ***** over your teammates. 

 

 

If vaccinated players are allowed to travel and go mask free around all of us common folk, why the concern about them being around unvaccinated teammates?

 

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

40 + in the air. 

I’m pretty sure you can find those on your own. 

[Kelly the Dog]

Why doesn’t Cole just sit and talk to (read: listen to) Tommy Sweeney for two hours instead of being on Twitter. 

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Dude, are you not reading/understanding the issue here?

 

No one cares that he isnt vaccinated. But if you CHOOSE to not get vaccinated then you have to follow the protocols as agreed upon by the NFLPA. And he is saying he WILL NOT follow those protocols either. You dont get to have everything your way with no consequences. THAT is being a baby.

 

 

Yea.  And?  The protocols are trash.

 

De facto forced vaccination.  

 

None of my questions remain answered regarding justifying the protocols other then "we got it and so should you!!"

[Don Otreply]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Endanger the team? 
 

If McD and co have as much buy in and such a strong culture as they lead on,

then one guys difference of opinion shouldn’t endanger the team. 

You miss the very obvious point, but that’s okay, I’m bowing out of this thread before it fully goes down the road it’s traveling, later. 

[Malazan]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Scott, youre better than this. You are completely missing a huge part of what is happening with Beasley.

 

Scott isn't better than this, you should know that by now. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

How do you spread it to teammates that have been vaccinated?

 

There is plenty of information out there about vaccination effectiveness.  None of the current vaccines are 100% effective against the original Covid strain and less against the variants.  Here is a well-referenced a link for you:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/15/the-covid-delta-variant-how-effective-are-the-vaccines

 

Further discussion of vaccine effectiveness will be zapped.

[Reader]

Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

Why doesn’t Cole just sit and talk to (read: listen to) Tommy Sweeney for two hours instead of being on Twitter. 

 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. He has a teammate who's season was ended by COVID.

[stevestojan]

Side note, living in a nice hotel room and not having to see people would be the only reason I wouldn’t have gotten the vaccine. 

[HappyDays]

He has a right to speak his opinion. I'm not one of those "shut up and play sports" people (those people are conspicuously absent from this discussion). But if he's going to actively break NFL rules then he's too selfish to remain on the team. McDermott must be furious right now.

[Beast]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Maybe but they could just fine him 

 

Yes. 
 

Then fine everyone that doesn't have the Flu shot.

 

And whatever else government and big-business says.

Edited June 18, 2021 by Beast

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Endanger the team? 
 

If McD and co have as much buy in and such a strong culture as they lead on,

then one guys difference of opinion shouldn’t endanger the team. If he retires, he retires, but release him? Nah. Force his hand. 

 

You are completely missing the point.

[IronyAbounds]

I'd have a lot more sympathy for him if there was any evidence getting the vaccine was the least bit harmful, or if he wasn't spouting nonsense about COVID, but screw him. He's just another ignorant anti-vaxxer who apparently doesn't realize there are lots of requirements concerning a multitude of vaccines in this country that have been around for a long time and for which he didn't have any input either. As was mentioned above, either get vaccinated, live with the protocols if you choose not to, or retire. This kind of crap is going to ruin what was shaping up to be an exciting NFL season.

[BillsfaninSB]

59 minutes ago, Process said:

Elijah Moore would look sooooo good in a bills uni right now.

I so wanted him at 30.   Said at the time in this forum. 

[stevestojan]

Just now, Klaista2k said:

Why are you so worried about someone questioning a Scamdemic? 

You realize what normal people (us “sheep”) think when you use a word like “scamdemic,” right? 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Beast said:

 

Yes. 
 

Then fine everyone that doesn't have the Flu shot.

 

And whatever government and big-business says.

 

Not fine him for not getting the vaccine. Fine him for refusing to follow the protocols for unvaccinated people.

 

How are so many of you missing this point? It isnt about forcing a vaccination. He can be unvaccinated. But he has to follow the unvaccinated protocols then.

 

Simple.

[Beast]

Just now, HappyDays said:

He has a right to speak his opinion. I'm not one of those "shut up and play sports" people (those people are conspicuously absent from this discussion). But if he's going to actively break NFL rules then he's too selfish to remain on the team. McDermott must be furious right now.

 

So, he should just take a vaccine he does not want to take just so he can play football when money is not an issue with him?

 

Yeah, OK.

 

 

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, Pokebball said:

If vaccinated players are allowed to travel and go mask free around all of us common folk, why the concern about them being around unvaccinated teammates?

 

 

Cause when unvaccinated teammates get infected by unvaccinated teams who refused to follow the protocols, then you end up playing on a Tues night with Brandon Powell as your starting QB. 

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8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He is free to retire, sure.

 

He is free to remain in the NFL, not get the vaccine, and follow the NFL/NFLPA protocols for unvaccinated players.

He is free to challenge those protocols and try to get them modified.

 

He doesn't have the choice to remain in the NFL, not get the vaccine, and thumb his nose at the protocols the NFL and NFLPA agreed to as part of their CBA.

 

 

 

And his current approach to challenging the protocols leaves a lot to be desired. If he chooses to try a stunt motorcycle jump and gets killed, that probably violates some terms of his contract and/or team rules. His argument would apply equally to that: "I am going to live my life" and "God's will". That is not a focused argument on "I should be allowed to bring my family with me because that restriction is unreasonable compared to the relative risk it introduces".

[DCbillsfan]

I haven't read the entire, so apologies in advance.

 

Curious to see if NFL will allow teams to place a player who is unvaccinated and unwilling to follow league Covid protocols on an exemption list or if team has to carry player on their 53 man roster.