BruceVilanch Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2944072-ranking-every-nfl-qbs-supporting-cast-for-2021 Buffalo coming in at a respectable #6 2020 Ranking: 8 The Buffalo Bills made it to last year's AFC title game thanks in no small part to a breakout year from quarterback Josh Allen. The Wyoming product had a career year, passing for 4,544 yards with 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He also rushed for 421 yards and eight scores. With a strong supporting cast, Allen could be even better this season. Buffalo's receiving corps was already fantastic before adding Emmanuel Sanders in free agency. Stefon Diggs led the NFL in both receiving yards (1,535) and receptions (127) last season. Cole Beasley had 967 receiving yards, while then-rookie Gabriel Davis contributed 599 receiving yards. Sanders replaces John Brown, who was fourth on the team with 458 receiving yards. The only two real knocks against Allen's supporting cast are that Dawson Knox is a good, not great, receiving tight end, and the backfield has been inconsistent. Knox had just 288 receiving yards in 2020, while Zack Moss and Devin Singletary combined for just 1,168 rushing yards. Buffalo ranked 20th in rushing with 24 percent of its yards coming from Allen. The Bills did add Matt Breida in the offseason, and he should help the offense be more balanced this season. Either way, this is a top-10 supporting cast, and the Bills should easily have a top-10 offense after ranking second in both points and yards last year. the teams in front of the Bills are as follows: #5 Browns #4 Packers #3 Cowgirls #2 Chiefs #1 Bucs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Packers? I feel like their offense would suck without Rodgers. 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, MJS said: Packers? I feel like their offense would suck without Rodgers. Yeah, I think there should have been an asterisk next to GB, because without AR it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, MJS said: Packers? I feel like their offense would suck without Rodgers. Jones is a heck of a back. You could at least make an argument for him being borderline top 5. Adams is bad man. Not much needs said for him…. and whether or not it was because of Rodgers tonyan had a heck of a year. I have no issues with them being high on the list. That’s just me I guess. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, MJS said: Packers? I feel like their offense would suck without Rodgers. So Rodgers is Rodgers’ supporting cast? If the premise is talent surrounding the QB position does the QB factor into the ranking? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 49 minutes ago, MJS said: Packers? I feel like their offense would suck without Rodgers. True. But I know that the Bills offense would suck without Allen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: True. But I know that the Bills offense would suck without Allen. Diggs is a consensus top receiver. The Bills have a good pass blocking oline (at least most of the time). Sanders and Beasley are good receivers. With GB you have Adams who is a top receiver, but not much else, in my opinion. I think Rodgers elevates the rest. A year ago we were talking about Rodgers having no weapons and making fun of their organization for not bringing in weapons to help Rodgers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Bucs and chiefs running backs arent that much better than the Bills. They got us on TEs, obviously, but that’s really it. And the Cowboys? Really? I’d take the bills wideouts and oline over theirs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Jones is a heck of a back. You could at least make an argument for him being borderline top 5. Adams is bad man. Not much needs said for him…. and whether or not it was because of Rodgers tonyan had a heck of a year. I have no issues with them being high on the list. That’s just me I guess. This right here. It's about supporting cast, not the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Tampa Bay is # 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Can't really argue with TB. They're stacked on that offense. Rodgers is jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Rams should be higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 11 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2944072-ranking-every-nfl-qbs-supporting-cast-for-2021 Buffalo coming in at a respectable #6 2020 Ranking: 8 The Buffalo Bills made it to last year's AFC title game thanks in no small part to a breakout year from quarterback Josh Allen. The Wyoming product had a career year, passing for 4,544 yards with 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He also rushed for 421 yards and eight scores. With a strong supporting cast, Allen could be even better this season. Buffalo's receiving corps was already fantastic before adding Emmanuel Sanders in free agency. Stefon Diggs led the NFL in both receiving yards (1,535) and receptions (127) last season. Cole Beasley had 967 receiving yards, while then-rookie Gabriel Davis contributed 599 receiving yards. Sanders replaces John Brown, who was fourth on the team with 458 receiving yards. The only two real knocks against Allen's supporting cast are that Dawson Knox is a good, not great, receiving tight end, and the backfield has been inconsistent. Knox had just 288 receiving yards in 2020, while Zack Moss and Devin Singletary combined for just 1,168 rushing yards. Buffalo ranked 20th in rushing with 24 percent of its yards coming from Allen. The Bills did add Matt Breida in the offseason, and he should help the offense be more balanced this season. Either way, this is a top-10 supporting cast, and the Bills should easily have a top-10 offense after ranking second in both points and yards last year. the teams in front of the Bills are as follows: #5 Browns #4 Packers #3 Cowgirls #2 Chiefs #1 Bucs Nothing wrong with that, it's a fact we are weak at TE & RB. Both Zack Moss and Devin Singletary are too slow with no burst and Knox drops too many passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 10 hours ago, MJS said: Diggs is a consensus top receiver. The Bills have a good pass blocking oline (at least most of the time). Sanders and Beasley are good receivers. With GB you have Adams who is a top receiver, but not much else, in my opinion. I think Rodgers elevates the rest. A year ago we were talking about Rodgers having no weapons and making fun of their organization for not bringing in weapons to help Rodgers. I would take GB's RB & TE in a nanosecond. IMO GB has a much more BALANCED set of skill players then the Bills have. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 12 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2944072-ranking-every-nfl-qbs-supporting-cast-for-2021 Buffalo coming in at a respectable #6 2020 Ranking: 8 The Buffalo Bills made it to last year's AFC title game thanks in no small part to a breakout year from quarterback Josh Allen. The Wyoming product had a career year, passing for 4,544 yards with 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He also rushed for 421 yards and eight scores. With a strong supporting cast, Allen could be even better this season. Buffalo's receiving corps was already fantastic before adding Emmanuel Sanders in free agency. Stefon Diggs led the NFL in both receiving yards (1,535) and receptions (127) last season. Cole Beasley had 967 receiving yards, while then-rookie Gabriel Davis contributed 599 receiving yards. Sanders replaces John Brown, who was fourth on the team with 458 receiving yards. The only two real knocks against Allen's supporting cast are that Dawson Knox is a good, not great, receiving tight end, and the backfield has been inconsistent. Knox had just 288 receiving yards in 2020, while Zack Moss and Devin Singletary combined for just 1,168 rushing yards. Buffalo ranked 20th in rushing with 24 percent of its yards coming from Allen. The Bills did add Matt Breida in the offseason, and he should help the offense be more balanced this season. Either way, this is a top-10 supporting cast, and the Bills should easily have a top-10 offense after ranking second in both points and yards last year. the teams in front of the Bills are as follows: #5 Browns #4 Packers #3 Cowgirls #2 Chiefs #1 Bucs They always fail to give credit to Allen for his touchdown reception as well (half sarcasm😒) That's 2 years in a row now. I bet you next season he gets another one too. That's gotta be some kind of obscure, weird record. Most consecutive years for a QB to have at least one rushing, passing, and receiving TD. I'm about to go down the Google rabbit hole for this one. As far as the article goes, #8 is BS. I would put them at #3 and move down the Packers & Cowboys. I don't care how old Emmanuel Sanders is, he's still playing at high level so his age means nothing. Then you have Diggs who's a top 3 WR that can line up everywhere and is the NFL's best route runner. Lastly, Cole Beasley who is the best slot receiver in the league and premier 3rd down conversion artist. No way would I personally rank the Cowboys (2 borderline elite receivers) and Packers (1 elite receiver) over the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 as much as I hate to say it, the Chiefs fixed their biggest problem, the O line, esp the tackles with vets...fins had another great draft, pats spent big and drafted a system qb, jets are finally on the right track..most teams planned and drafted well, except for the raiders who had the worst off-season IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: I would take GB's RB & TE in a nanosecond. IMO GB has a much more BALANCED set of skill players then the Bills have. RBs sure. But Tonyan broke out in his 3rd season, which Knox is entering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: True. But I know that the Bills offense would suck without Allen. And so would GB without AR, and so would TB without Brady and I love here as evidenced by Winston with a losing record with a similar offense. They added some, but as much as people hate it Brady made the difference for the WR’s and TE’s. They only added Gronk, Fournette, and AB. Even without them they were the best which is why he specifically went there. This is an erroneous argument as the QB is by far the most important guy on every team. Just see our past between Kelly to Allen. We still have holes like every other team as it’s not Madden. No one has a dream team. For offense we have one of the top two WR room on the NFL. Not a person, a room. I thought Bruce the rating was relatively fair. If our RB’s and TE’s improve this year, we should move up next year. Edited June 8, 2021 by machine gun kelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 12 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Bucs and chiefs running backs arent that much better than the Bills. They got us on TEs, obviously, but that’s really it. And the Cowboys? Really? I’d take the bills wideouts and oline over theirs. Cowboys are probably 5 spots too high. Think the rest of the list is fine though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Except for TE, the Cowboys are stacked at the skill positions. They have Cooper, Gallup, Lamb and Elliott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 15 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Bucs and chiefs running backs arent that much better than the Bills. They got us on TEs, obviously, but that’s really it. And the Cowboys? Really? I’d take the bills wideouts and oline over theirs. Bucs and the Chiefs kill us on RB. Edwards-helaire is better than anything we have. Fournette is better than anything we have, he can be a knucklehead but the Bucs keep him focused somehow. We should probably be above the Browns/Packers/Cowboys but I agree with the Chiefs and Bucs ahead of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Fair ranking except for...the Packers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQW87 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Cowboys are always so overrated. Every year they are predicted to have this super offense and it never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Browns? Nah. They have excellent RBs, a good TE, and good to potentially great WRs if OBJ regains form. They are good, they seemed better without OBJ. Landry is really good, between the Bills recievers and theirs I'd take the Bills. RBs and TEs they beat us. I could see people picking the Browns but it isn't clear cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, DQW87 said: Cowboys are always so overrated. Every year they are predicted to have this super offense and it never happens. Agreed. Elliott hasn't tried since before the ink was dry on that contract. And Dak gets his stats, up until the game is on the line. Then is just...kinda...doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 The Bills entire O is going to work to improve the run game to achieve more balance and they are going to succeed, imho. They are doing this to lessen the wear and tear inflicted on our WRs. While I still Billieve the Bills are going to sign Ertz, I think Knox, Hollister and Sweeney will be better than what we saw at TE last season. With Ertz it's going to be night and day. PS - While deep speed is always preferred it is far from necessary. Just break out the TT film. We are going to be good at RB this season, imho. I hope whoever wins the LG job is a step above play there last year. I think our line could gel a little more as well. Maybe run some of Singletary's favorite run plays as well. It's Singletary that I think plays well for us this fall although our duo may be a trio this fall with either Brenda or Williams sharing the load. So, more practice at running, better play design, better execution by the O-line, going from a duo to a trio with all three fighting for carries is going to do the trick. PSS - I wonder if Daboll wanted Brenda to run particular plays for us? Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 20 hours ago, DQW87 said: Cowboys are always so overrated. Every year they are predicted to have this super offense and it never happens. Wasn’t Dak leading the NFL in yards before his injury? Last year Elliott took a step back as their o-line was banged up. If they can stay healthy they will be very good. Same goes with the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 9:47 AM, Doc said: RBs sure. But Tonyan broke out in his 3rd season, which Knox is entering. I would take Tonyan AND Knox! BTW, when I posted that I thought the same thing. I really believe Knox is going to explode on the scene this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Wasn't mentioned in the OP, but these rankings do not factor in OLine whatsoever. It's solely RBs, WRs, and TEs. I don't get the Packers ranking personally. They have a good RB and an elite WR and that's it IMO. I don't think Tonyan, Dillon, or the other WRs are anything special. I'd probably put them somewhere in the 15-20 range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I would take Tonyan AND Knox! BTW, when I posted that I thought the same thing. I really believe Knox is going to explode on the scene this season. Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 21 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: Bucs and the Chiefs kill us on RB. Edwards-helaire is better than anything we have. Fournette is better than anything we have, he can be a knucklehead but the Bucs keep him focused somehow. We should probably be above the Browns/Packers/Cowboys but I agree with the Chiefs and Bucs ahead of us. O-line run blocking is 90% of your argument, which has minimal to do with rb talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 9:48 PM, Mark Vader said: Rams should be higher Bills should be higher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If the bills can get Ertz, they go in the top 3 conversation…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 6:00 PM, Stank_Nasty said: Jones is a heck of a back. You could at least make an argument for him being borderline top 5. Adams is bad man. Not much needs said for him…. and whether or not it was because of Rodgers tonyan had a heck of a year. I have no issues with them being high on the list. That’s just me I guess. I agree with you. They lost RB J.Williams but drafted AJ Dillon last year. If they had another consistent WR even approaching what Beasley does, I might put them ahead of the Cowgirls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Wasn’t Dak leading the NFL in yards before his injury? Last year Elliott took a step back as their o-line was banged up. If they can stay healthy they will be very good. Same goes with the Bills Yes, Dak was averaging 370+passing yards per game thru 5 games, being injured during the 5th game. He had 450+ yards in each of weeks 2 thru 4. I’d say he was on pace to have a chance at beating Peyton Manning’s record of 5,477 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Wasn’t Dak leading the NFL in yards before his injury? Last year Elliott took a step back as their o-line was banged up. If they can stay healthy they will be very good. Same goes with the Bills Yes, Dak averaged 370 yards passing thru 5 games and he was injured during game 5. He had 450+ yards in each of games 2 thru 4. I’d say he was on pace for most passing yards in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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