H2o Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/miami-trades-ereck-flowers-to-washington/ Quote The Dolphins and Football Team have agreed to a trade that will send Flowers to Washington for a swap of late-round picks, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network. Maybe they are going OL @ #6? I'd personally be happy if they passed on any receiving talent like Pitts, Chase, Waddle, or Smith. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Oh man— the name Erik Flowers brings back some bad Bills’ memories. 8 3 1 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, H2o said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/miami-trades-ereck-flowers-to-washington/ Maybe they are going OL @ #6? I'd personally be happy if they passed on any receiving talent like Pitts, Chase, Waddle, or Smith. Well Flowers sucked anyway, so i don't think him being there should have prevented them from going oline there. Their offensive line will hold them back if its not addressed - they cant run the ball, and if they don't protect their QB it won't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Don’t think a move like this dictates what they do with their 1st pick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, H2o said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/miami-trades-ereck-flowers-to-washington/ Maybe they are going OL @ #6? I'd personally be happy if they passed on any receiving talent like Pitts, Chase, Waddle, or Smith. My guess is they're loving life sitting at 6 with three QBs guaranteed coming off the board and Pitts, Chase, Smith, Waddle all possibly in play. Maybe they go Sewell but that would be a home run too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Oh man— the name Erik Flowers brings back some bad Bills’ memories. Yes made me very nauseas, then remembered Mike Williams and that made me throw everything up!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Don’t think a move like this dictates what they do with their 1st pick. Correct. They used a 1st, a 2d and a 4th on tackles last year. I can’t see them taking Sewell here, even if he’s available. Edited April 27, 2021 by mannc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, dneveu said: Well Flowers sucked anyway, so i don't think him being there should have prevented them from going oline there. Their offensive line will hold them back if its not addressed - they cant run the ball, and if they don't protect their QB it won't really matter. Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Oh man— the name Erik Flowers brings back some bad Bills’ memories. "A fine young man." John Butler's final middle finger to Ralph. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Yes made me very nauseas, then remembered Mike Williams and that made me throw everything up!! haha-- yeah, Williams was probably much worse. What's crazy about Flowers is here I am 20 years later and I am still so delusional that I am wondering whether there was a chance he could have worked out. He was an athletic guy and a lot of us had high hopes for him--I never understood what happened with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Oh man— the name Erik Flowers brings back some bad Bills’ memories. This guy is an even bigger bust, as he was a top ten pick. He was comically bad when with the NY Giants. Some days on WFAN when I was driving home from work (I'm in Jersey, about 6 miles from Meadowlands) and every single call was about how much they hated Ereck Flowers. Remember when everyone was fawning over Miami's off-season last year? Other than Byron Jones (who was a good pickup), is there anyone from their Spring 2020 shopping spree remaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, H2o said: Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. I thought it was a big overpay at the time. Same with everyone the jets signed. Just now, thurst44 said: This guy is an even bigger bust, as he was a top ten pick. He was comically bad when with the NY Giants. Some days on WFAN when I was driving home from work (I'm in Jersey, about 6 miles from Meadowlands) and every single call was about how much they hated Ereck Flowers. Remember when everyone was fawning over Miami's off-season last year? Other than Byron Jones (who was a good pickup), is there anyone from their Spring 2020 shopping spree remaining? Byron jones at top 5 money is a bit excessive, but he's a good player at least. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, H2o said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/miami-trades-ereck-flowers-to-washington/ Maybe they are going OL @ #6? I'd personally be happy if they passed on any receiving talent like Pitts, Chase, Waddle, or Smith. Sure. Why not? We can’t get to the QB anyway. 11 minutes ago, dneveu said: Well Flowers sucked anyway, so i don't think him being there should have prevented them from going oline there. Their offensive line will hold them back if its not addressed - they cant run the ball, and if they don't protect their QB it won't really matter. Agree with your first take. They want to give the impression that OL is in their plan with first selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 The Miami Dolphins just added 20 more season ticket holders 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Yes made me very nauseas, then remembered Mike Williams and that made me throw everything up!! And POS Poz....lets not forget that disaster...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Nah. They'll take an offensive weapon at 6 and a defender later in the 1st. I do think they'd be wise to add a tackle, though, and kick Robert Hunt inside. They'd have: Jackson - Kindley - Karras - Hunt - rookie (Eichenberg/Jenkins/Cosmi,etc). Much better than what they have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Logic said: Nah. They'll take an offensive weapon at 6 and a defender later in the 1st. I do think they'd be wise to add a tackle, though, and kick Robert Hunt inside. They'd have: Jackson - Kindley - Karras - Hunt - rookie (Eichenberg/Jenkins/Cosmi,etc). Much better than what they have now. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/dolphins-to-move-robert-hunt-from-tackle-to-guard-may-draft-a-tackle-in-first-round/ Quote According to Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald, the Dolphins will move starting right tackle Robert Hunt to right guard, and drafting offensive tackle Penei Sewell of Oregon with the sixth overall pick is a possibility. Maybe Miami is truly looking @ OT with #6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, mannc said: Correct. The used a 1st, a 2d and a 4th on tackles last year. I can’t see them taking Sewell here, even if he’s available. They aren’t fast enough? 😃 🍻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 If the Bills actually want an explosive RB offer San Francisco a 5th for Mostert. $3M cap hit in his walk year. They might even take it. The Shanahan camp always leads the league in runnin' back arrogance and I guess since his dad is grandfathered in he still has a coupon for a dozen of them for a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, thurst44 said: Remember when everyone was fawning over Miami's off-season last year? Other than Byron Jones (who was a good pickup), is there anyone from their Spring 2020 shopping spree remaining? And they appear to have whiffed on their three first round picks last year...I know it’s early, but none of the three looks good to this point... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, H2o said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/dolphins-to-move-robert-hunt-from-tackle-to-guard-may-draft-a-tackle-in-first-round/ Maybe Miami is truly looking @ OT with #6? Honestly, if they are....good for them! Smart team building. Tua is a lefty, so having a high quality RT is just as important, if not more so, than having a high quality LT. I've also read that Sewell has been training at RT this offseason, just in case the team that drafts him plans to start him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, H2o said: Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. I don't think Flowers has ever been a decent NFL guard, he is a train wreck at guard or tackle. How he keeps getting signed is a mystery to me. It was a dumb move the moment Miami made it last year. Agree with others though it does not affect #6. I mean if Sewell is there they should take him, but I say that as an Austin Jackson sceptic and they drafted him in the 1st so they won't do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Well Flowers sucked anyway, so i don't think him being there should have prevented them from going oline there. Their offensive line will hold them back if its not addressed - they cant run the ball, and if they don't protect their QB it won't really matter. yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arm of Harm Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 20 years from now, there will be a lineman named Ereek Flowers, he will be drafted first overall, and will be one of the biggest busts in NFL history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: haha-- yeah, Williams was probably much worse. What's crazy about Flowers is here I am 20 years later and I am still so delusional that I am wondering whether there was a chance he could have worked out. He was an athletic guy and a lot of us had high hopes for him--I never understood what happened with him. He was over hyped, Darren Howard was the DE I wanted in that draft and when we took Flowers I was livid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, ganesh said: yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs 22nd in yards offensively, and 20th in yards allowed defensively. Turnovers are big, but good teams tend to turn it over less, and they tend to fluctuate from year to year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kwai San said: And POS Poz....lets not forget that disaster...... What are you talking about? Poz was a decent player. Decent guy. Not a bust at all. Never lived up to his hype, but should not mentioned in the same breath. He was a pro bowler w Jax one year, and could have been a Pro bowler for us if he'd been healthier. Flowers was yet another bad signing by this supposed "rising" miami team. Just another guy they are going to have to replace w a rookie or new face. They gave him 10 million per year! Miami's line next year looking like a dumpster fire. Last year's rookies underwhelmed, now will be several new faces. Edited April 27, 2021 by RichRiderBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arm of Harm Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kwai San said: And POS Poz....lets not forget that disaster...... Posluszny had an 11 year career, and was a starter for the vast majority of that. For his career he has 1085 total tackles, and 753 solo. He went first-contract-and-out with the Bills and went to the Jaguars. The Bills were switching to a 3-4 defense, and he believed he was a better fit in a 4-3. Overall the guy had a solid career. However, the switch to the 3-4 meant the Jaguars derived more benefit from that career than did the Bills. Had he stayed in Buffalo he would have abundantly justified the 2nd round pick used to take him. Edited April 27, 2021 by Arm of Harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, mannc said: And they appear to have whiffed on their three first round picks last year...I know it’s early, but none of the three looks good to this point... The tackle looks like he might be ok. Not first round pick worthy, but decent. Tua and the corner are not looking great right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ganesh said: yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs And they beat one team with a winning record (rams) when they had a whopping 145 yards of offense In fact, they remind me of this team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Buffalo_Bills_season https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Miami_Dolphins_season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 A fairly marginal trade, Flowers is returning to the only team he has success with and Miami cuts their losses. I don’t see this as having that drastic of an impact on Miami’s draft plans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, dneveu said: Well Flowers sucked anyway, so i don't think him being there should have prevented them from going oline there. Their offensive line will hold them back if its not addressed - they cant run the ball, and if they don't protect their QB it won't really matter. What QB ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, H2o said: Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. Not to mention the dead cap money regarding those players. Per Spotrac, Van Noy $4.1M, Shaq $2.6M, and Flowers $2M. Edited April 27, 2021 by DCbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, H2o said: Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. Glass houses... Spain Jefferson Addison and Butler forced to take paycuts or get cut And that isn't even including the guy that quit at halftime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, H2o said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/miami-trades-ereck-flowers-to-washington/ Maybe they are going OL @ #6? I'd personally be happy if they passed on any receiving talent like Pitts, Chase, Waddle, or Smith. I don't want them drafting Sewell. The guy looks amazing and he's only 20 years old. I'm hoping they pull another Dion Jordan and take Jason Oweh at 6. Edited April 27, 2021 by somnus00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, somnus00 said: I don't want them drafting Sewell. The guy looks amazing and he's only 20 years old. I'm hoping they pull another Ted Ginn Jr and take Jason Oweh at 6. Another Dion Jordan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, H2o said: Another Dion Jordan You beat me to it. I just edited my post to Dion Jordan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 That Miami FA class last year, whew. 2 hours ago, ganesh said: yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs Too bad Fitzy can’t save them this year Who is their OC now? Can’t keep up with the revolving door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: That Miami FA class last year, whew. Too bad Fitzy can’t save them this year Who is their OC now? Can’t keep up with the revolving door They got 2 OC's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: They got 2 OC's... Who are they, I should know but ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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