Paul Costa Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 BB a HOF coach has always been very passive with FA early in the process . The Patriots usually come in late looking for bargain binge prices. And often succeed. They always let more people walk than take in FA. And reap the benefits of extra draft picks. Why the change this year? Brandon Beane is the reason. BB and the Patriots have had a front row seat watching the Bills transformation by Beane. The Patriots have been triggered by the Bills & the success of TB in Tampa. The problem for NE is that their not good at this. They look like some day drinking random fan took over the controls of the NE Patriots. I’m happy but very surprised. The Patriots are in panic mode trying to keep up. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I’d say 95% was watching Brady and Gronk hoisting another Lombardy. Maybe 5% was the Bills. But I’m lovin it regardless of what led to it. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Sorry, but I have it on tremendous authority, according to many of the reactions I’ve seen on here, that those that DON’T spend 200m in the start of free agency, suck as human beings. All is doomed. The 2021 season is going to be a kitten fire. /sarcasm off. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadlox Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Brady winning definitely had to chafe a little. Also Bill B isn’t going to coach forever. He’s reaching to try and make one last run imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 There's an article on the ESPN website discussing this very topic. (reading earlier on phone, can't find it now again) It mentioned the fact that Brady won the SB caused this and also the fact that they were 7-9 last year, he realized he needs to improve roster. But then went on to state that likely biggest reason was due to reduced cap kept many teams on the sidelines, so they were able to get better bargains than would be available in most seasons. The bidding pool was much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I think people need to take a look at the Pats' remaining cap space. They set themselves up for a huge buying spree this year, and this was always expected. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 You can’t tell me seeing Brady and Gronk win the SB didn’t sting for BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: All is doomed. The 2021 season is going to be a kitten fire. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I think people need to take a look at the Pats' remaining cap space. They set themselves up for a huge buying spree this year, and this was always expected. With this cause identified for NE's 2021 spree, does that mean BB drove Buffalo to spend big bucks in 2019-20? Correlation does not mean causality and yes, I'd agree they had set themselves up Dave for these signings in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 In related news, the NFL has announced a change to the comp pick process. Starting with the 2021 free agency period and 2022 draft, the more free agents you sign, the more comp picks you will be awarded. The rounds have also changed. With the first nine picks of the 2022 draft, the New England Patriots select: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Patient and deliberate Turtle Beane is going to win against that reckless hoodie Hare and those other teams that are jumping at every free agent they see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Meltdown? He's fixing the roster 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) The Pats have spent 6 top 101 picks In the last two drafts on the positions they are currently glutting themselves on. This is happening because Belichick hasn’t been able to put together a roster in a decade+ and he no longer has Tommy boy to cover the gaps. Edited March 16, 2021 by whatdrought 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, nucci said: Meltdown? He's fixing the roster Exactly and excellent choices, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Are you even looking at the salaries he’s handing out. Mills is the only decent signing. Everyone else is a extreme overpay. If the Bills did this this website would have crashed by now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 No longer can they go cheap on players. They’re now setting the market for certain positions. But they still need a quarterback. If Cam or a rookie like, say, Mac Jones is their plan… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: BB a HOF coach has always been very passive with FA early in the process . The Patriots usually come in late looking for bargain binge prices. And often succeed. They always let more people walk than take in FA. And reap the benefits of extra draft picks. Why the change this year? Brandon Beane is the reason. BB and the Patriots have had a front row seat watching the Bills transformation by Beane. The Patriots have been triggered by the Bills & the success of TB in Tampa. The problem for NE is that their not good at this. They look like some day drinking random fan took over the controls of the NE Patriots. I’m happy but very surprised. The Patriots are in panic mode trying to keep up. Umm just no. This was brought on from Brady winning it all last year. Also was brought on because last year the Pats had no money to spend in FA and this year they had the second most AND the cap went down so less competition. Even better outside of two proven TE and a proven Pass Rusher all the rest guarantees are for one year and can be cut and replaced next year if they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Umm just no. This was brought on from Brady winning it all last year. Also was brought on because last year the Pats had no money to spend in FA and this year they had the second most AND the cap went down so less competition. Even better outside of two proven TE and a proven Pass Rusher all the rest guarantees are for one year and can be cut and replaced next year if they suck. Good points and I agree on the cuts......nice to have $$$$ to spend. Getting all the Rona holdouts back the Pats***** will be formidable indeed..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: BB a HOF coach has always been very passive with FA early in the process . The Patriots usually come in late looking for bargain binge prices. And often succeed. They always let more people walk than take in FA. And reap the benefits of extra draft picks. Why the change this year? Brandon Beane is the reason. BB and the Patriots have had a front row seat watching the Bills transformation by Beane. The Patriots have been triggered by the Bills & the success of TB in Tampa. The problem for NE is that their not good at this. They look like some day drinking random fan took over the controls of the NE Patriots. I’m happy but very surprised. The Patriots are in panic mode trying to keep up. Its not a meltdown and they are not in panic mode- they have the money so he is putting his team in a position to win. They have invested in solid players this offseason and the ones that are suspect - can be cut without much cap spending. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Good points and I agree on the cuts......nice to have $$$$ to spend. Getting all the Rona holdouts back the Pats***** will be formidable indeed..... Like every team depends on how good or bad the QB plays. Wether that’s Cam or a rookie or someone totally out of the blue lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Like every team depends on how good or bad the QB plays. Wether that’s Cam or a rookie or someone totally out of the blue lol. Like TB12??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Like TB12??? Roflmao Brady is probably like “I asked for this TWO YEARS AGO! WTH!” Lol part of me hopes they pull off a Watson trade. Add him to this team with a good O line, good RB, Good TE, average WR with what I am expecting be a top 5 D.. lol a man can dream right! (Before anyone loses their mind NO I DONT EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN. ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 as soon as they upgrade from cam....lookout the hoodies body of work speaks for itself.....moving on from brady & gronk is no easy task 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) No, I think Tom Brady leaving New England and winning the super bowl in his very first season with another team was a huge blow to Belichick’s ego. I remember reading Reports that Belichick has always felt he was much more responsible for the Pats dynasty than Brady. He felt it was the Patriots system that made Brady so successful and that he could plug in another QB and continue winning. Seeing the opposite happen has to be a blow to his ego. I also think he’s sending the message that losing will not be tolerated in New England and he’s willing to change the way he goes about adding talent to fix it. edit - I do think the bills contributed though, by sweeping the Pats and winning the division away from them. Edited March 16, 2021 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Paul Costa said: BB a HOF coach has always been very passive with FA early in the process . The Patriots usually come in late looking for bargain binge prices. And often succeed. They always let more people walk than take in FA. And reap the benefits of extra draft picks. Why the change this year? Brandon Beane is the reason. BB and the Patriots have had a front row seat watching the Bills transformation by Beane. The Patriots have been triggered by the Bills & the success of TB in Tampa. The problem for NE is that their not good at this. They look like some day drinking random fan took over the controls of the NE Patriots. I’m happy but very surprised. The Patriots are in panic mode trying to keep up. It's not entirely Beane/McDermott. Seeing Tom Brady and Gronk win the Superbowl with a new team had the most to do with it I wager. It all still goes with the QB though. 9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Roflmao Brady is probably like “I asked for this TWO YEARS AGO! WTH!” Lol part of me hopes they pull off a Watson trade. Add him to this team with a good O line, good RB, Good TE, average WR with what I am expecting be a top 5 D.. lol a man can dream right! (Before anyone loses their mind NO I DONT EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN. ) No Joke, Belicheck has made some impressive additions Historically "Buying a team" of high-priced FA to put together has not necessarily worked very well for a number of teams who tried it. And it still all depends upon who the QB is. But I give him props, Belicheck is doing a good job of bringing in the players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: No, I think Tom Brady leaving New England and winning the super bowl in his very first season with another team was a huge blow to Belichick’s ego. I remember reading Reports that Belichick has always felt he was much more responsible for the Pats dynasty than Brady. He felt it was the Patriots system that made Brady so successful and that he could plug in another QB and continue winning. Seeing the opposite happen has to be a blow to his ego. I also think he’s sending the message that losing will not be tolerated in New England and he’s willing to change the way he goes about adding talent to fix it. Yeah, it took last year for them to realize they can no longer do business as usual. And that without a quarterback of Bradys abilities, it’s not so easy to win games in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's not entirely Beane/McDermott. Seeing Tom Brady and Gronk win the Superbowl with a new team had the most to do with it I wager. It all still goes with the QB though. No Joke, Belicheck has made some impressive additions Historically "Buying a team" of high-priced FA to put together has not necessarily worked very well for a number of teams who tried it. And it still all depends upon who the QB is. But I give him props, Belicheck is doing a good job of bringing in the players. I think he brought them in to see if Cam has anything left in Pre Season if not it will be a rookie QB starting. 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yeah, it took last year for them to realize they can no longer do business as usual. And that without a quarterback of Bradys abilities, it’s not so easy to win games in the NFL. I was shocked they went 7-9 and were a couple dumb fumbles away from being 9-7 with a JV squad. Proved to me how good of a coach BB is to get that much out of a bad team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I think he brought them in to see if Cam has anything left in Pre Season if not it will be a rookie QB starting. Oooooh, the old "see if the QB looks good in pre-season" 😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oooooh, the old "see if the QB looks good in pre-season" 😇 Lol well everyone blamed the talent around Cam for his struggles.. I mean so what if he bounced passes or threw them so high airplanes were hit.. I am hoping he trades for a QB (say Jimmy G) or moves up in the draft to get one like (Mac Jones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Roflmao Brady is probably like “I asked for this TWO YEARS AGO! WTH!” Lol part of me hopes they pull off a Watson trade. Add him to this team with a good O line, good RB, Good TE, average WR with what I am expecting be a top 5 D.. lol a man can dream right! (Before anyone loses their mind NO I DONT EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN. ) Honestly, I have thought about this watching all the moves they have made. Thinking that BB might be willing to ransom basically the entirety of his next 2 drafts to get Watson and maybe then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Honestly, I have thought about this watching all the moves they have made. Thinking that BB might be willing to ransom basically the entirety of his next 2 drafts to get Watson and maybe then some. Not gonna happen. If the Texans are willing to trade him, much less within the AFC, they would do it to the Dolphins, who have much better draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Smith & Henry are very good TE's but with an inaccurate Cam throwing to them, this might implode. Now if Bill trades up to get Lance, then things get interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Smith & Henry are very good TE's but with an inaccurate Cam throwing to them, this might implode. Now if Bill trades up to get Lance, then things get interesting. Lance would still be a rookie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Doc said: Lance would still be a rookie. Yeah well sometimes rookies do well. Not saying Trey will but he would be a nice insurance policy for Bill. Cam is not a long term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: I think people need to take a look at the Pats' remaining cap space. They set themselves up for a huge buying spree this year, and this was always expected. Was it though? Granted they had massive cap space, but Kraft has always been cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 The Pats know they have to be good—- like, Super Bowl contender good— to keep that brand/franchise clicking along. The Red Sox can be mediocre for a while and still sell tickets. Same with the Bruins. The Pats have a ton of band wagon fans that will fade away almost immediately with a couple more crappy seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chuck Schick said: The Pats know they have to be good—- like, Super Bowl contender good— to keep that brand/franchise clicking along. The Red Sox can be mediocre for a while and still sell tickets. Same with the Bruins. The Pats have a ton of band wagon fans that will fade away almost immediately with a couple more crappy seasons. you think a season ticket waitlist of around 60,000 people will just evaporate overnight if they don’t bounce back right away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: you think a season ticket waitlist of around 60,000 people will just evaporate overnight if they don’t bounce back right away? Within a few years, absolutely. Especially at the price they are charging. That’s exactly what happened to the Redskins. And that’s been a historically much more loyal fan base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Was it though? Granted they had massive cap space, but Kraft has always been cheap. This is untrue. Kraft is pretty much hands off and let’s BB make the deals. Also they never been cheap they just spread the wealth around so they had good backups as well as good starters. Which helped them win a lot of games.. (helps when you have the GOAT at QB. Lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Paul Costa said: BB a HOF coach has always been very passive with FA early in the process . The Patriots usually come in late looking for bargain binge prices. And often succeed. They always let more people walk than take in FA. And reap the benefits of extra draft picks. Why the change this year? Brandon Beane is the reason. BB and the Patriots have had a front row seat watching the Bills transformation by Beane. The Patriots have been triggered by the Bills & the success of TB in Tampa. The problem for NE is that their not good at this. They look like some day drinking random fan took over the controls of the NE Patriots. I’m happy but very surprised. The Patriots are in panic mode trying to keep up. No reason to think it's a meltdown. We'll see that as we watch things play out. And no reason to think it's the Bills creating it. More likely it's simply how bad the Pats have been. This is a knee-jerk reaction and there's nothing specific that proves any of it. There's every reason to think that the reason they are jumping in early is first that they don't have the talent they used to, second that they have far more money than they usually do. They were expected to do a lot more than they usually do. They appear to be looking at their problems very realistically. Their drafting has been bad for the last four years or so. They're further away than they've been in a long time. They have a lot of needs and a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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