HOUSE Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Sure, I love every player waived 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I mean - it's possible. But if that happens, they're not re-signing Mongo too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Gugny said: Where would Cody Ford go? Where he belongs, the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Paying premium dollars for a lm average-to-above-average guard on the back side of 30 is not a recipe for success. In fact it’s a horrible idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Paying premium dollars for a lm average-to-above-average guard on the back side of 30 is not a recipe for success. In fact it’s a horrible idea. You’d think they’d learn something from the Morse experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: My brain read this as Gabe Davis and for a sec I was all 🤯 Yeah I read it as Dane Jackson like wtf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Paying premium dollars for a lm average-to-above-average guard on the back side of 30 is not a recipe for success. In fact it’s a horrible idea. What do you define as "premium dollars'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 For people wanting to move Feliciano to center and save $ from Morse.... what do you think he could fetch in a trade? He's expensive and his brain is one hit from applesauce, but he's a good player. I'm guessing maybe a 4th or 5th? I guess that pick isn't swaying my opinion on what to do with him, but if you decide too expensive then the picks make it hurt less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) The way to the Super Bowl for the Bills revolves around being able to knock off the Chiefs. Neutralize Chris Jones? Sign Gabe Jackson, problem solved. Now find someone to cover or slowdown Kelce and Hill. Edited March 4, 2021 by Bag of Milk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: You’d think they’d learn something from the Morse experience I don't think he is even 30 now, he was 27 when we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 50 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: I don't think he is even 30 now, he was 27 when we signed him. Was referring to the premium dollars part 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, First Round Bust said: more cuts coming, market glut a coming to match the cap cut...including our own guys...the stars will get paid but as far as the lunch pail guys they may have to wait and sweat it out... Agreed. I think FA will be really slow process as guys try to wait out deals that may never come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gugny said: Wouldn't we be better off getting a better tackle? Depends on the money and the other knock-on effects. If you upgrade your guard and you then can't sign Milano and Daryl Williams and you replace them poorly, you might easily weaken the team overall. It's a complex system. Every move has knock-on effect that aren't direct results of each move but nonetheless follow as a consequence. Beane is very aware of this, of course, but he didn't know the major cap drop was coming. The teams that are best set up to handle this are the ones with a lot of cap space. Including the Patriots. Edited March 4, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: You’d think they’d learn something from the Morse experience If they did learn something from the Morse experience, it was probably that they'd gotten an excellent player at an undervalued but highly important position. But that at that point when we switched to a different blocking scheme, going to a more power-oriented straight-ahead scheme over the pulling we'd been using before, that that had taken an excellent pickup and made the guy a poorer fit in the new plan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Not sure GB. I was so impressed how Williams handled on his own with little help TJ Watt. If we can find a way to restructure, reduce, etc. I would want to extend him. I guess this is the new normal we discuss every release. Seems to be an excellent Guard. Not sure we could afford him. These releases continues to remind me how much teams like the Jags, Jets, Pats, Colts, Broncos, and WFT are going to be able to do a makeover like we haven’t seen pretty much ever. At least with several of these teams, they don’t have a quality QB. If somehow Reich can resurrect Wentz, that is a team to be concerned for 2021. They are a very complete team so it will depend on Wentz. They certainly have the cash to make a couple of targeted improvements on both sides of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 10 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Well if you sign Gabe you are not retaining Mongo. So it makes no difference to Ford. Gabe plays one G spot and Ford and Ike compete for the other one. Or Morse is out, Mongo moves to Center and Jackson and Ford play OG with Boettger the swing IOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Some may think it's a bad move, but Beane may think Ford competes with a lower price FA they bring in at RT. If Ford competes for the RT job, I believe our offense will be in trouble. Let him compete for a guard spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, purple haze said: Or Morse is out, Mongo moves to Center and Jackson and Ford play OG with Boettger the swing IOL. And we start a rookie RT? Better draft him rd 1. I don’t think there’s any chance that we sign Feliciano, Jackson and Williams. I’m all about bolstering the OL this offseason, but if pay good money to 2 IOL and draft a RT high (or resign Williams), our OL better dominate. I think moving Mongo to C is a bad move the more I think about it. One of his best attributes is being able to slide over to center. If he’s the center, we’d need to invest properly into a swing c/g backup. seems like a lot of eggs in the OL basket that could be similar to last years, while basically swapping out Morse for Jackson and possibly a 1st rd pick for Williams depending on what we do. Dunno if we’d get a return on the investment unless we got Jackson, Feliciano (and possibly Williams) for cheap. Might be better off finding another Feliciano for 2.5M instead of the 6-8 he may get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, purple haze said: Or Morse is out, Mongo moves to Center and Jackson and Ford play OG with Boettger the swing IOL. Ford is not going to be guaranteed a job IMO. He is competing, whether at guard or at tackle. He is going to have to beat someone out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Ford is not going to be guaranteed a job IMO. He is competing, whether at guard or at tackle. He is going to have to beat someone out. Correct. I think Ford and Boettger compete for the LG spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I'd take Gabe but it depends on the price he's seeking. If it's in the 4-6mil range with incentives why not but for more then that no way. I want him hungry that's when he seems to play at his best. 2 yrs in a row his play has dipped in the wrong direction. Maybe he got comfortable with his money or maybe he was dealing with injuries that slowed him down. Either the Bills should proceed with caution with Gabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 17 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Bye Bye Mongo.. all the best with the new team.. I feel like we could resign mongo still as a reserve guard / center. God, knows Morse is one more concussion from hanging up his cleats. Probably should have already based on his medical history imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 13 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Ford is not going to be guaranteed a job IMO. He is competing, whether at guard or at tackle. He is going to have to beat someone out. They’ll get him competition but the type he should be able beat out. I think they like Ford a lot More than some of The Mafia does. 14 hours ago, NewEra said: And we start a rookie RT? Better draft him rd 1. I don’t think there’s any chance that we sign Feliciano, Jackson and Williams. I’m all about bolstering the OL this offseason, but if pay good money to 2 IOL and draft a RT high (or resign Williams), our OL better dominate. I think moving Mongo to C is a bad move the more I think about it. One of his best attributes is being able to slide over to center. If he’s the center, we’d need to invest properly into a swing c/g backup. seems like a lot of eggs in the OL basket that could be similar to last years, while basically swapping out Morse for Jackson and possibly a 1st rd pick for Williams depending on what we do. Dunno if we’d get a return on the investment unless we got Jackson, Feliciano (and possibly Williams) for cheap. Might be better off finding another Feliciano for 2.5M instead of the 6-8 he may get. I hear you. Decisions decisions. I’d rather they keep Daryl Williams. Whatever they do the line must improve in the run game. The OL cannot be allowed hold the team back this coming season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, purple haze said: They’ll get him competition but the type he should be able beat out. I think they like Ford a lot More than some of The Mafia does. I think they like Ike a lot too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think they like Ike a lot too though. I agree. That said, he wasn’t a 2nd round pick. If the Bills don’t bring back Mongo that might be a strong reflection on Boettger. As for Ford, unless he is just butt naked incompetent during camp/pre-season, he will be in the starting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Says here you can have only one Gabe at a time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Anyone else old enough to remember Gabe Kaplan from Welcome Back Kotter? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 2:04 PM, ScottLaw said: Of course they like him.... they traded up in the 2nd to get him....they will somehow force him in the lineup, IMO. Hopefully not at the expense of someone better. Like I said, the competition he will get is the type of competition he should be able to beat out. It wouldn’t be a player who is obviously, hands down better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 The league is about to get FLOODED with veteran free agent guards. This is the offseason if you’re a team in need of a veteran guard. The prices will surprise people in how low they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcdermott Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 18 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Anyone else old enough to remember Gabe Kaplan from Welcome Back Kotter? His wife on show, she is who I remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Mcdermott said: His wife on show, she is who I remember LINK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: LINK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 47 minutes ago, Rico said: Hot, in a 1986 RCA tube-powered television type way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 U had me at 5.51 40 speed. Assuming his age 30, and year he ran it 2012/13/14, he should be over a 6.0 second time. He ain’t no pulling guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 2:04 PM, ScottLaw said: Of course they like him.... they traded up in the 2nd to get him....they will somehow force him in the lineup, IMO. Hopefully not at the expense of someone better. If he can stay healthy Ford is going to be good this year at guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 12:13 AM, Aussie Joe said: Anyone else old enough to remember Gabe Kaplan from welcome Back Kotter? Raises Hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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