Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 CB seems like the most solid positon group on the team right now. If they bring back Levi, I don’t see a need to do anything else at CB except address the bottom of the roster. If Norman wants another year at vet minimum that would be fine too but I'm comfortable with White, Wallace, Johnson, Jackson as the top 4. Assuming Norman leaves then add any UDFA that maybe has some return abilities ( my off season has them letting Roberts go and using cheap rookies as return guys) and another veteran minimum guy that is all they need. I think they carried 6 DBs most of last year. For the record, I'd be fine if they drafted a safety this year in the mid-rounds as the heir apparent for Hyde in 2022. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I'll say I feel most comfortable at QB. Damn that feels good to write. 12 2 2 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, DJB said: I'll say I feel most comfortable at QB. Damn that feels good to write. Back up QB could use some tweaking 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I actually see CB as a rather large need.... I think an upgrade to Levi would be very important, and I'm not sure Jackson showed enough to be penciled in as the starter... Levi vs. Dane competing in camp isn't the end of the world, but it would be good to improve that. I also disagree about having cheap rookies return kicks. We tried that for a couple years with Ray-Ray and McKenzie. That's why we signed Roberts. Not saying Roberts needs to be the guy, but I would prefer they have a vet plan for returner. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Kicker. Bass-o-matic baby! 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Disagree. I think they have to draft a corner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Kicker. Bass-o-matic baby! I'm pretty comfortable with the kicking game and return game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Kicker, punter, and LS! Beyond that, an argue could be made for nearly every position group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Least in need of a move... 🤔 I’m thinking the receivers, we have five ( Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Davis, and McKenzie that are not in need of replacement, and one Hodgins, that was red shirted and in theory ready for the up coming season, plus Williams and Gentry, A good group imo. Go Bills!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Special teams, WR and QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Corner may not top the list, but attention is needed. OL and DL need the most attention, imo. Edited February 16, 2021 by inaugural balls 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I agree with not needing to do much w Special team, WR, and QB. But I think there will be small tweaks. As for CBs, I would put them up there but I have never been comfortable with L Wallace. I didn't quite understand the cutting of EJ Gaines. I thought he was going to win the starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I agree with not needing to do much w Special team, WR, and QB. But I think there will be small tweaks. As for CBs, I would put them up there but I have never been comfortable with L Wallace. I didn't quite understand the cutting of EJ Gaines. I thought he was going to win the starting job. Gaines? I'm not confident he even exists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If they resign Milano I don't see a huge need at LB. WR could be the same group and be just fine next year (especially with John Brown and Cole Beasley healthy), though they might want to consider adding a bigger, strong WR at some point in the future. I know many think that TE is a huge need, but I value that position less than many of the others we need, so I'll say if we take the same unit into next year I will be just fine with that, as long as they beef up the oline and fix the run game. Biggest needs I see on defense are a run stuffing DT (preferably someone better than Star), Edge Rusher, and #2 CB. On offense it's all about the running game, so draft the best, most talented RB you can and invest more in the offensive line. And Daboll better be doing his homework this off-season to improve the run scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Corner may not top the list, but attention is needed. OL and DL need the most attention, imo. OL and DL make every other group better. We have the QB, now win the trenches. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If there is one thing we have learned from mcdermott thus far it’s that they will add cornerbacks every year and do a helluva job coaching them up 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Gaines? I'm not confident he even exists. The mythical Gaines was brought in along with J Norman (and drafting of Jackson) to shore up the weak point of the defense - L Wallace CB2. Gaines was under a million bucks, and when on the field, a good CB. Thought they would jettison Norman and go with Gaines. He must of been a bad boy during covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Gaines? I'm not confident he even exists. I think that Gaines could have taken Josh Norman's role on this team. Alas, we'll never know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: CB seems like the most solid positon group on the team right now. If they bring back Levi, I don’t see a need to do anything else at CB except address the bottom of the roster. If Norman wants another year at vet minimum that would be fine too but I'm comfortable with White, Wallace, Johnson, Jackson as the top 4. Assuming Norman leaves then add any UDFA that maybe has some return abilities ( my off season has them letting Roberts go and using cheap rookies as return guys) and another veteran minimum guy that is all they need. I think they carried 6 DBs most of last year. For the record, I'd be fine if they drafted a safety this year in the mid-rounds as the heir apparent for Hyde in 2022. What if Safety or CB is clearly the BPA at #30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I actually see CB as a rather large need.... I think an upgrade to Levi would be very important, and I'm not sure Jackson showed enough to be penciled in as the starter... Levi vs. Dane competing in camp isn't the end of the world, but it would be good to improve that. I also disagree about having cheap rookies return kicks. We tried that for a couple years with Ray-Ray and McKenzie. That's why we signed Roberts. Not saying Roberts needs to be the guy, but I would prefer they have a vet plan for returner. Pass rush will cure CB issues 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Gotta be receivers. Last year we invested a 1st (Diggs trade), a 4th, and a 6th round pick. If JB is cut, they may add to the room. Otherwise, doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: Pass rush will cure CB issues https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29939464/2020-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings Quote Team Pass Rush Win Rate 1. Pittsburgh Steelers, 54% 2. Buffalo Bills, 52% 3. Washington Football Team, 50% 4. Atlanta Falcons, 49% 5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 49% Not sure how good their metrics are, but this and some other things indicate that we're not entirely bad at rushing the passer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If we're talking about building this team to beat the chiefs I'd love some more speed in the room. The Bucs being able to press the line some and play man coverage with guys like Jamel Dean (4.30 40 yard dash) and Sean Murphy-Bunting (4.42) made a huge difference when it came to containig Hill and Hardman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29939464/2020-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings Not sure how good their metrics are, but this and some other things indicate that we're not entirely bad at rushing the passer. Let me correct myself and say sacks/pass rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Motorin' said: What if Safety or CB is clearly the BPA at #30? Then trade down and get an extra pick. They need multiple front 7 defenders and a TE in the draft. And no matter how much Beane says it, he drafts for need almost every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 As for QB, the back-up position needs to be addressed. Barkley is a FA and was not good anyways. It will be interesting to see if Beane tries to save some cap space and just rolls with two QBs in 2021. I thought about WR and it's hard to argue. Like CB the WR group has a true #1 and questions at #2. But the WR group could be looking at losing Brown, McKenzie, and Roberts. That is half of the top 6. My off-season has them letting Roberts walk, and replacing his return abilities with a DB either at safety or CB. I would still want Brown back on a reworked deal, but that may be difficult to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: The mythical Gaines was brought in along with J Norman (and drafting of Jackson) to shore up the weak point of the defense - L Wallace CB2. Gaines was under a million bucks, and when on the field, a good CB. Thought they would jettison Norman and go with Gaines. He must of been a bad boy during covid. Indeed - when on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, inaugural balls said: Corner may not top the list, but attention is needed. OL and DL need the most attention, imo. Get a depth CB that can also return kickoffs/punts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 WR 4 hours ago, DJB said: I'll say I feel most comfortable at QB. Damn that feels good to write. Well , i could go for a better backup. Bring back Fitz !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Then trade down and get an extra pick. They need multiple front 7 defenders and a TE in the draft. And no matter how much Beane says it, he drafts for need almost every time. Yup, Beane said as much in interviews during last years draft, but that’s nothing new league wide though, the vast majority of all teams picks are what a given team considers BPA at a position of need, it’s totally subjective from team to team, strict BPA rarely happens, although the myth that it happens most of the time stubbornly persists. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Motorin' said: What if Safety or CB is clearly the BPA at #30? If corner is clearly the BPA you certainly take it. That being said I think corner is less needy then the other two portions of the defense right this second. I hope we get some decent D tackles this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUBSTER Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Long snapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Mark Vader said: I think that Gaines could have taken Josh Norman's role on this team. Alas, we'll never know. Would that role be holding down the IR spot ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 hours ago, whatdrought said: I actually see CB as a rather large need.... I think an upgrade to Levi would be very important, and I'm not sure Jackson showed enough to be penciled in as the starter... Levi vs. Dane competing in camp isn't the end of the world, but it would be good to improve that. I also disagree about having cheap rookies return kicks. We tried that for a couple years with Ray-Ray and McKenzie. That's why we signed Roberts. Not saying Roberts needs to be the guy, but I would prefer they have a vet plan for returner. I see your points. My thought is they only have so much to spend and upgrading beyond Levi would cost a fair amount. My take on return guys is the position is near obsolete with the current rules. Roberts on a vet minimum salary, sure I’d do that. But again they need to save money somewhere. If I’m McD I’m going dumpster diving for a return guy with sure hands and finding UDFA to take Matakevich’s spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: I see your points. My thought is they only have so much to spend and upgrading beyond Levi would cost a fair amount. My take on return guys is the position is near obsolete with the current rules. Roberts on a vet minimum salary, sure I’d do that. But again they need to save money somewhere. If I’m McD I’m going dumpster diving for a return guy with sure hands and finding UDFA to take Matakevich’s spot. The bills had the 6th best avg starting spot, the 4th best yards per return on punts, and the best yard per returns on kicks. I completely disagree that it’s obsolete. Roberts is a valuable asset and unless they have a sure thing to take his role, I’d like to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, whatdrought said: I actually see CB as a rather large need.... I think an upgrade to Levi would be very important, and I'm not sure Jackson showed enough to be penciled in as the starter... Levi vs. Dane competing in camp isn't the end of the world, but it would be good to improve that. I also disagree about having cheap rookies return kicks. We tried that for a couple years with Ray-Ray and McKenzie. That's why we signed Roberts. Not saying Roberts needs to be the guy, but I would prefer they have a vet plan for returner. I agree. Levi still hasn’t shown enough consistency and maybe he never will. Taron Johnson had some very big plays but overall he got toasted. I don’t know that Norman is the answer either. In a passing league, you can never have enough talent at CB. 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: WR Well , i could go for a better backup. Bring back Fitz !! Bite your tongue!! The Fitz jinx on starting QBs is real! Edited February 17, 2021 by ColeB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 QB. I'm happy with a backup of Davis / Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: The mythical Gaines was brought in along with J Norman (and drafting of Jackson) to shore up the weak point of the defense - L Wallace CB2. Gaines was under a million bucks, and when on the field, a good CB. Thought they would jettison Norman and go with Gaines. He must of been a bad boy during covid. He opted out. 10 hours ago, Motorin' said: What if Safety or CB is clearly the BPA at #30? Pick them. Though I'd be surprised if it is. Don't love this DB group. There are only 4 corners and 1 safety I'd consider as high as #30 and I reckon at least 4 of those 5 guys will be gone. Edited February 17, 2021 by GunnerBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Linebackers! Said no one ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Back up QB could use some tweaking That is our top need from what that goof stated months ago. Must focus on the backup QB. That was funny Huff. OP, I agree. So much has been said about CB opposite Tre, but we have three top flight people as DB’s, and I’m comfortable with the guys you stated. If we get that Edge Rusher, and Star back, we could get back to that top 4 defenses like we had the last two years prior to 20. Whether O Line, RB, Edge, and possible a replacement for Milano (which I hate that idea but it’s a possible reality). Edited February 17, 2021 by machine gun kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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