Draconator Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 If Watt also requests a trade, I would want the Bills to make a serious push to land him. I know his best years are behind him, but his leadership would be invaluable, and would lead to an even more cohesive locker room, and I think the guy has a few good games left in him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 No one wants to pay him 17 million. Texans will be cutting him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It costs them nothing to release him, and no one is trading for that $17M contract. I wouldnt mind going after him once he is released if we can make the $$ work. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Watt has a $17.5M cap hit, with no dead cap if they release or trade, and he is in the last year of his deal this coming season. I'd say he's as good as gone. Edited January 28, 2021 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Draconator said: If Watt also requests a trade, I would want the Bills to make a serious push to land him. I know his best years are behind him, but his leadership would be invaluable, and would lead to an even more cohesive locker room, and I think the guy has a few good games left in him. I've thought for a month that he's going to want out, and Watson bailing will be more motivation. This is a guy who cares about only one thing - winning, and I'm sure seeing Hopkins traded and now seeing Watson heading out will not make him happy. I will repeat again what I said yesterday. If you listen to McDermott's post-season press conference, at the end, he says something like Buffalo is the best town to play football in, the fans are the best in the NFL, and the Bills are the team where you will play the best football in your life. It was a message to free agents - if you're good, and if you want to be on a team full of guys who want to be the best versions of themselves, the Bills are the team. I'm hoping there's a way for Watt to end up in Buffalo. He's been playing, I think, about 80-90% of his team's defensive snaps, and in Buffalo he'd play no more than 60%. At this point in his career, he may see that as a plus (even though he wants to be on the field every play), because at 60% he can reduce the wear and tear and be more likely to play full seasons. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: I've thought for a month that he's going to want out, and Watson bailing will be more motivation. This is a guy who cares about only one thing - winning, and I'm sure seeing Hopkins traded and now seeing Watson heading out will not make him happy. I will repeat again what I said yesterday. If you listen to McDermott's post-season press conference, at the end, he says something like Buffalo is the best town to play football in, the fans are the best in the NFL, and the Bills are the team where you will play the best football in your life. It was a message to free agents - if you're good, and if you want to be on a team full of guys who want to be the best versions of themselves, the Bills are the team. I'm hoping there's a way for Watt to end up in Buffalo. He's been playing, I think, about 80-90% of his team's defensive snaps, and in Buffalo he'd play no more than 60%. At this point in his career, he may see that as a plus (even though he wants to be on the field every play), because at 60% he can reduce the wear and tear and be more likely to play full seasons. He didn't have a great season (5 sacks), but he had 14 tackles for loss (a lot) and a pick six. He'd certainly be an upgrade. He also played WAY too many snaps last season -- well over 90 percent. That seems counterproductive to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I've thought for a month that he's going to want out, and Watson bailing will be more motivation. This is a guy who cares about only one thing - winning, and I'm sure seeing Hopkins traded and now seeing Watson heading out will not make him happy. If you go back and follow the entire BOB saga, Watt has been unhappy far longer than Watson. He was the guy that tried to fight BOB at practice and got him fired. The difference is that he is older and going into last year of contract, so he hasnt been so vocal, since he knows he'll probably be cut anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, H2o said: Watt has a $17.5 cap hit, with no dead cap if they release or trade, and he is in the last year of his deal this coming season. I'd say he's as good as gone. He is clearly heading to Buffalo where he will play for less Watt age ? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: He is clearly heading to Buffalo where he will play for less Watt age ? My money is on him going to New Orleans to play for some Mardi Gras beads and a bowl of gumbo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Draconator said: If Watt also requests a trade, I would want the Bills to make a serious push to land him. I know his best years are behind him, but his leadership would be invaluable, and would lead to an even more cohesive locker room, and I think the guy has a few good games left in him. Watt would be a horrible candidate for a trade IMHO. The lose/lose situation is to trade picks AND have to pay a high salary for a guy who has played 2 full seasons in the last 4, and looked OK in the most recent. I think he's likely to be a cap casualty for Houston. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: No one wants to pay him 17 million. Texans will be cutting him. precisely. Dude is injured all the time now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Watt would be a horrible candidate for a trade IMHO. The lose/lose situation is to trade picks AND have to pay a high salary for a guy who has played 2 full seasons in the last 4, and looked OK in the most recent. I think he's likely to be a cap casualty for Houston. I wasn't aware of his cap number. That's why I appreciate this board. The knowledge here is unparalleled. If he's cut which is the most likely scenario, I would want Buffalo to go hard after him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Watt would be a horrible candidate for a trade IMHO. The lose/lose situation is to trade picks AND have to pay a high salary for a guy who has played 2 full seasons in the last 4, and looked OK in the most recent. I think he's likely to be a cap casualty for Houston. Would be the highest cap hit on the team next year. 2 years ago he was first team all-pro - but at this point he's probably more a candidate for something like calais campbell. 2 years 12-14 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, HOUSE said: He is clearly heading to Buffalo where he will play for less Watt age ? honestly could be a vet chasing a ring. Could easily end up in Buffalo, KC, or GB for a very team friendly deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Going to Miami. It's the best run organization in North American Sports. Going to be Tampa of the AFC. Michael Thomas headed there next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, HOUSE said: He is clearly heading to Buffalo where he will play for less Watt age ? That was a powerful post. Do you deliver a Joule like that every second? 😉 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I've thought for a month that he's going to want out, and Watson bailing will be more motivation. This is a guy who cares about only one thing - winning, and I'm sure seeing Hopkins traded and now seeing Watson heading out will not make him happy. I will repeat again what I said yesterday. If you listen to McDermott's post-season press conference, at the end, he says something like Buffalo is the best town to play football in, the fans are the best in the NFL, and the Bills are the team where you will play the best football in your life. It was a message to free agents - if you're good, and if you want to be on a team full of guys who want to be the best versions of themselves, the Bills are the team. I'm hoping there's a way for Watt to end up in Buffalo. He's been playing, I think, about 80-90% of his team's defensive snaps, and in Buffalo he'd play no more than 60%. At this point in his career, he may see that as a plus (even though he wants to be on the field every play), because at 60% he can reduce the wear and tear and be more likely to play full seasons. Lol at “cares only about winning” unless you’re talking about winning the award for most self promotional. Edited January 28, 2021 by 4merper4mer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 No thanks. He's a great leader, and I'm sure he would be a process guy, but he's had serious injuries and his best years are behind him. Damaged goods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Meh, glory days are over. Promote from within your own roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 He is on the decline and always injured. Why would we want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Did you know that Watt came back from injury way before anyone thought he could in 2019??? Ugh. I would hate to have this guy on the Bills because there's nothing worse than watching a game when Watt is playing. You hear his name about 5 times/minute all game long. I hope someone else overpays him for those 5 sacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Meh, glory days are over. Promote from within your own roster. *Looks at our roster* 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: That was a powerful post. Do you deliver a Joule like that every second? 😉 Ohm, I have some resistance to that post. Edited January 28, 2021 by Bob Chandler's Hands 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Pittsburgh makes the most sense for him. I don’t personally want him on buffalos team. Not with the salary he’ll get in free agency or his current final year of his deal. Odds have to be pretty high you won’t get 10 games out of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Meh, glory days are over. Promote from within your own roster. Have you seen our depth chart on the d-line? It’s not pretty. We need help and I don’t think anyone in house is the answer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Have you seen our depth chart on the d-line? It’s not pretty. We need help and I don’t think anyone in house is the answer. Most of our STARTERS arent even the answer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Most of our STARTERS arent even the answer. That’s why we badly need help. The starters and backups aren’t getting it done and obviously another year of mileage on guys like Hughes and Addison isn’t good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Pittsburgh makes the most sense for him. I don’t personally want him on buffalos team. Not with the salary he’ll get in free agency or his current final year of his deal. Odds have to be pretty high you won’t get 10 games out of him. Oh god, please no. One Watt (Derek doesn't really count) is enough slobbering for me. JJ and TJ on the same team? Damn, that would be insufferable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Watt would be a horrible candidate for a trade IMHO. The lose/lose situation is to trade picks AND have to pay a high salary for a guy who has played 2 full seasons in the last 4, and looked OK in the most recent. I think he's likely to be a cap casualty for Houston. Only way I would trade for him, is a late round pick and a renegotiation to lower that cap hit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Boxcar said: Oh god, please no. One Watt (Derek doesn't really count) is enough slobbering for me. JJ and TJ on the same team? Damn, that would be insufferable. Lol it’s literally collinsworths sexiest dream come true 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Most of our STARTERS arent even the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Rc2catch said: Lol it’s literally collinsworths sexiest dream come true You don't know how happy I am that, unlike the Bosas and Watts, there aren't the Donalds. I can not watch a Rams game with Collinsworth calling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Did you know that Watt came back from injury way before anyone thought he could in 2019??? Ugh. I would hate to have this guy on the Bills because there's nothing worse than watching a game when Watt is playing. You hear his name about 5 times/minute all game long. I hope someone else overpays him for those 5 sacks. I don't disagree, but 14 TFLs is a lot. He finished 6th in the league in that category. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Oh I think he's a no-brainer if he gets released and wants to come here for rotational DE money. Dude had 29 pressures last year, make no mistake that is what this defense does. For reference; Mack had 31, L.Floyd 30, C Jordan 26 and F Clark 25. Not bad company. More than our leading guy Hughes. Sign me up for him as a rotational guy. He'll be better with less snaps on 2nd-3rd downs too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I don't disagree, but 14 TFLs is a lot. He finished 6th in the league in that category. Mario Addison had 10 TFLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Can you blame him? Hopkins gets traded, they have no draft picks and then they sign Culley as their HC. Ouch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Mario Addison had 10 TFLs. PFR has Addison at 7 (you have to sort by TFL): https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/defense.htm#defense::tackles_loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Bangarang said: That’s why we badly need help. The starters and backups aren’t getting it done and obviously another year of mileage on guys like Hughes and Addison isn’t good. It means nothing now, but that's why I was banging the drum so hard last March for Beane to: 1. Re-sign JPhillips and Lawson 2. Trade 2 2nds for Yannick Ngakoue Lot of swagger and youth there. And between what we paid Addison, Butler, Jefferson, and Murphy, we could have found the cash to pay those guys. And looking at their production this year vs Ngakoue who had a down season and still had 8 sacks and 11 TFLs, it would have been worth it. Oh well. 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: PFR has Addison at 7 (you have to sort by TFL): https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/defense.htm#defense::tackles_loss ESPN has Addison at 8 TFLs (but just regular season, maybe postseason makes the difference?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It means nothing now, but that's why I was banging the drum so hard last March for Beane to: 1. Re-sign JPhillips and Lawson 2. Trade 2 2nds for Yannick Ngakoue Lot of swagger and youth there. And between what we paid Addison, Butler, Jefferson, and Murphy, we could have found the cash to pay those guys. And looking at their production this year vs Ngakoue who had a down season and still had 8 sacks and 11 TFLs, it would have been worth it. Oh well. ESPN has Addison at 8 TFLs (but just regular season, maybe postseason makes the difference?) Don't know. It's one of those "in the eye of the beholder" stats like pressures, but it shouldn't be -- it's pretty clear cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 JJ will get cut and sign with a 1 year contract with a contender for cheap money. The big middle finger to the Texans for everything they have done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts