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Report: Daboll will remain with Bills in 2021


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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

With the chargers thing, I wonder if he tries to go scorched earth on the chiefs. he might want to show them what they are missing vs the best team in their division. 

 

I'd hope he wants to go scorched earth every week, but the ingredients are certainly there..

 

Revenge game.  He knows we likely need to put up a lot of points.  Played a top 10 defense WC Round, then a Top 5 defense in the Divisional Round, now the Chiefs Defense.. one of these things are not like the other.     

 

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3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

My main issue is that how dedicated is the ownership of the Jags, Jets and Chargers? I know the Jets are never afraid to spend money but the Jags and Chargers have been called cheap before. Also how willing is ownership to let a GM and coach combo go to work? The Jags are a coaches dream as they have a generational QB at the top of the draft and an extra 1st round selection on top of the massive amount of cap space. But is their ownership willing to spend? I have heard good things about the Kahn's but they never seem to get the right people to run their organization. Does that have anything to do with them or is it just bad luck?

 

I think they(Khans) mean well.

 

They didn't get rich by being stupid.

 

Their GM's just bust out on every QB maybe this time they get it right.

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28 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

I'll buy that for a dollar!!! Good news. But if he adds even an average running game next year to compliment the passing game he'll get a HC gig for sure.

 

I have to think a playmaker at RB is on the to-do list this off-season.

 

So happy to hear Daboll likely won't leave. We need continuity right now.

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Just now, JMF2006 said:

 

I think they(Khans) mean well.

 

They didn't get rich by being stupid.

 

Their GM's just bust out on every QB maybe this time they get it right.

 

The Kahns seem to know how to run a professional wrestling promotion well but they never get the right GM/Coach/QB combo for some reason. And it isn't like they are cheap or meddling either. It might just be bad luck honestly. 

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Not always sure why a hot Coordinator would turn down a job even from a dysfunctional franchise

 

Oftentimes a coordinator is the "hot" commodity and only has a small window of opportunity to capitalize

 

The difference in pay between coordinator and head coach is astronomical and you might never get another chance

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The Kahns seem to know how to run a professional wrestling promotion well but they never get the right GM/Coach/QB combo for some reason. And it isn't like they are cheap or meddling either. It might just be bad luck honestly. 

 

Yeah AEW is a hot property

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Just now, ticketssince61 said:

Not always sure why a hot Coordinator would turn down a job even from a dysfunctional franchise

 

Oftentimes a coordinator is the "hot" commodity and only has a small window of opportunity to capitalize

 

The difference in pay between coordinator and head coach is astronomical and you might never get another chance

 

When you are coaching an elite Quarterback and therefore running a top offense your window is wider.

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23 minutes ago, wppete said:


Yeah I agree. Can’t see Leslie Going to Houston especially after the News Deshaun want out and it’s almost a certainty he is gone.... The Houston job and Philly job seem like disasters...

 

I could see Leslie say he'd like to talk to Deshaun before he took the job.

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3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The Kahns seem to know how to run a professional wrestling promotion well but they never get the right GM/Coach/QB combo for some reason. And it isn't like they are cheap or meddling either. It might just be bad luck honestly. 

 

Which is why I think Urban is the right sort of hire. They keep hiring people who are maybes to be able to run a programme. They know Urban can. Give him the keys and let him run. 

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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

When you are coaching an elite Quarterback and therefore running a top offense your window is wider.

 

Yup - If Daboll is turning down HC jobs, he's clearly not worried about a regression.  

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I know the Bills played to really good defenses in the last two playoff games. But the offense looked a bit out of sync. The WRs are pretty banged up so maybe that's it. But I do wonder if Daboll was a little distracted by the head coaching stuff. Interviews take a lot of preparation. Researching then reaching out to potential assistants takes a lot of time.

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37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Apparently not interested in the other two openings 

 

Great news! One more year of offensive stability and continuity for our young stud of a QB. Eventually Daboll will move on to a HC gig and a new offensive coordinator will arrive, which will be part of a normal maturation and learning process for Allen. By then it wont really matter who the offensive coordinator is - the star was already born. 
 

As for Daboll, i dont blame him at all for not leaving if the opportunity isnt absolutely perfect. The guy has an awesome gig running this offense and being close to home. So many offensive coordinators jump for the first opportunity they see as a HC and fall flat on their face bc it was likely a less than ideal situation for them to begin with. 

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

When you are coaching an elite Quarterback and therefore running a top offense your window is wider.

 

 

Yeah and whether you and I like it or not they probably put some more valuable chips into upgrading the RB position this offseason and have an even more consistent and balanced offense next year than this one.     And then maybe if he gets a HC job next year it will be a no-brainer and he will take the job during WC week while the Bills are on a bye.:thumbsup:

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7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah and whether you and I like it or not they probably put some more valuable chips into upgrading the RB position this offseason and have an even more consistent and balanced offense next year than this one.     And then maybe if he gets a HC job next year it will be a no-brainer and he will take the job during WC week while the Bills are on a bye.:thumbsup:

 

I really hope no more valuable resources at running backs. A day 3 flier in the 6th round, knock yourselves out. No more proper picks. 

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33 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I think Daboll would have taken the Chargers job. They are in a decent spot. First they have a good young QB with 3 years and a option left on his rookie deal. They have a good WR corp and a solid RB along with pieces on defense. Their cap isn't in too bad of a shape either. They have some space and some fat they can cut or restructure on the roster. But thankfully he didn't get the job and he returns for one more year.

 

Very few people know for sure.  I surely don't.  Like we both said, glad he's staying for at least 1 more year.

He's got a lot of unfinished business to get the O better than it is now.

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20 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said:

Not always sure why a hot Coordinator would turn down a job even from a dysfunctional franchise

 

Oftentimes a coordinator is the "hot" commodity and only has a small window of opportunity to capitalize

 

The difference in pay between coordinator and head coach is astronomical and you might never get another chance

 

We hear that argument every year, yet every year, HC positions open up.

 

The flip side of that argument is that many coordinators will jump on whatever HC position is offered and, perhaps through no fault of their own, fail miserably and never get another chance. Examples include Pettine, Schwartz, McDaniels, Crennel ...

 

 

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I really hope no more valuable resources at running backs. A day 3 flier in the 6th round, know yourselves out. No more proper picks. 

 

 

I feel like it's coming tho.  Especially after advancing this far,  having weather scares for their pass heavy offense and poor rushing production in the playoffs.

 

After Cody Ford I am still not entirely convinced they fully understand that you wanna' save those picks for premium $ positions.   I expect Travis Etienne maybe.   Same logic Chiefs used with CEH last draft.  

 

Hopefully I am wrong and they don't use a primo pick on a back and rather their scouting department finds the inevitably comparably productive gem late in the draft or UFA............. but I expect the potential short term returns on a RB will be tempting to McBeane the same way they were with Singletary/Moss picks.

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1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I feel like it's coming tho.  Especially after advancing this far,  having weather scares for their pass heavy offense and poor rushing production in the playoffs.

 

After Cody Ford I am still not entirely convinced they fully understand that you wanna' save those picks for premium $ positions.   I expect Travis Etienne maybe.   Same logic Chiefs used with CEH last draft.  

 

Hopefully I am wrong and they don't use a primo pick on a back and rather their scouting department finds the inevitably comparably productive gem late in the draft or UFA............. but I expect the potential short term returns on a RB will be tempting to McBeane the same way they were with Singletary/Moss picks.

 

I'd be stunned if they used the late 1st on a running back. Genuinely stunned. Now a day 2 pick.... that wouldn't shock me but I would dislike it immensely. I am pretty sure their first round pick will be on defense.  

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd be stunned if they used the late 1st on a running back. Genuinely stunned. Now a day 2 pick.... that wouldn't shock me but I would dislike it immensely. I am pretty sure their first round pick will be on defense.  

 I'd bet a month paycheck on defense being the first pick... we need more LB's. and dlineman... (pass rushing End / and a HUGE SPACE EATER) Offense a monster guard would be nice and it would not surprise me to see them go after a center either.  we are pretty set at everything else on Offense (Williams might be the physical runner we are looking for next year).  Defense needs some work and some personal tweaking. 

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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd be stunned if they used the late 1st on a running back. Genuinely stunned. Now a day 2 pick.... that wouldn't shock me but I would dislike it immensely. I am pretty sure their first round pick will be on defense.  

I agree. Better be on an edge rusher. Or perhaps DB. 32 isn’t far off from where we found Tre 😉

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56 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The Philly job is a bit more desirable in my opinion. Hurts is a decent young QB and they have their draft choices and while their cap is hell you could easily sell them on a 2 year rebuild of let's develop Hurts and get out of cap hell. The issue with Philly is that their GM appears to want a lot of control over the coaching staff.

except the owner wants  Wentz and just fired his coach who wanted Hurts

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13 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I feel like it's coming tho.  Especially after advancing this far,  having weather scares for their pass heavy offense and poor rushing production in the playoffs.

 

After Cody Ford I am still not entirely convinced they fully understand that you wanna' save those picks for premium $ positions.   I expect Travis Etienne maybe.   Same logic Chiefs used with CEH last draft.  

 

Hopefully I am wrong and they don't use a primo pick on a back and rather their scouting department finds the inevitably comparably productive gem late in the draft or UFA............. but I expect the potential short term returns on a RB will be tempting to McBeane the same way they were with Singletary/Moss picks.


That would be 3 premium picks used on RBs in 3 years, for a passing offense.  Would be borderline insane.  Tight end on the other hand, you help the running game, the short passing game, opens up the offense, etc.

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1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:


That would be 3 premium picks used on RBs in 3 years, for a passing offense.  Would be borderline insane.  Tight end on the other hand, you help the running game, the short passing game, opens up the offense, etc.

 

I haven't looked at the whole tight end class yet but I have done Kyle Pitts. No chance he is there where we pick but if he was I would sprint to the podium. And I generally hate tight ends in the 1st. 

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