The Lamar Jackson effect, will it make a difference?

[Billzgobowlin]

I see so many talking heads calling for the Ravens to win and the only reason why is because of Lamar.  Is he that good?  If the Ravens had anyone other than him would they still be favored?  I just find it interesting that everyone now all of sudden thinks it's so easy to stop Josh Allen but Lamar Jackson is going to be superman.  I'm not saying it won't be hard but he is not a prolific passer so I think you make him one dimensional and the DBs can do their job it will be a win.  Heck the Titans only gave up 2 TDs to them and I feel our defense should be better if Milano can find his footing lol

[HOUSE]

This may have been true BEFORE THE END OF THE LAMAR JACKSON ERA

 

not true today

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

I just watched 15 minutes of Lamar on GMF and it was all his running highlights from last game. 
 

It makes him a threat no doubt. We have to respect that and our players can’t break from their assignments. 
 

Somehow I hope our D can force or dare him to beat us with his arm. Show me he has become a passer who can go toe to toe with 17.

 

 

[Jpsredemption]

It’s not just Lamar. The Ravens are a good team overall. And one could argue they would still be a good team without Lamar because they’d get some more use out of skill position players like Brown and Andrews and maybe Boykins career would have taken off a bit more as well..and their defense is excellent and will be a tougher test than the Colts. 

[RobbRiddick]

The media have a new narrative for this game: "Lamar has never played in snow". If you watch some of these segments you can see they're setting him up to be the hero if it does snow and they win. Even if there's just a small amount of snow falling, it'll be "Lamar out-Buffaloed Buffalo!" "Bufflo chose Allen for these conditions but Lamar was the one who mastered them!"

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

32 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

I see so many talking heads calling for the Ravens to win and the only reason why is because of Lamar.  Is he that good?  If the Ravens had anyone other than him would they still be favored?  I just find it interesting that everyone now all of sudden thinks it's so easy to stop Josh Allen but Lamar Jackson is going to be superman.  I'm not saying it won't be hard but he is not a prolific passer so I think you make him one dimensional and the DBs can do their job it will be a win.  Heck the Titans only gave up 2 TDs to them and I feel our defense should be better if Milano can find his footing lol

 

He has the ability to take over a game - and i'd consider him the only player on their offense with the capability of doing so.  

 

To me though, its at least as likely that their defense plays well and limits the buffalo offense.  Lot of talent in that unit and they're healthy.  

[Crow-Magnon]

There are quite a few NFL QB’s who can run. You should know. Allen is one. Murray is one. But Lamar is a QB who is an integral part of the rushing attack (designed runs) as well as a serious threat to get big yards when he takes off out of the pocket when coverages open big holes for him to exploit (like his TD run against the Titans). He is a threat to run at any time and has the speed to escape anyone on the field if he has space to accelerate. 
 

The Ravens have built their offense around Jackson’s skill set. It would have been easy to let him run while trying to set him up as a typical pocket passer, but with foresight the Ravens decided to build an offense around Lamar’s unique talents. To be honest, I was skeptical. Yeah, he took over from Flacco in a down 2018 and took Baltimore to the post-season, but showed last year he could win games (his W-L record as a starter proves that). Even without the MVP honors, he proved he was a winner. And he has this year as well. Even with getting COVID-19 he bounced back and ended 2020 at 11-5. 
 

All Jackson wants to do is win. He does not care about personal stats like total pass yardage, TD passes or being the only QB who has rushed for over 1,000 yards twice. All he wants is a ring. His fellow Ravens love him because he is all about the “team”. He actually appears to be a polite and humble young man. 

Edited January 14, 2021 by Crow-Magnon

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

35 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said:

It’s not just Lamar. The Ravens are a good team overall. And one could argue they would still be a good team without Lamar because they’d get some more use out of skill position players like Brown and Andrews and maybe Boykins career would have taken off a bit more as well..and their defense is excellent and will be a tougher test than the Colts. 

Not so sure about this!

[Mark80]

Lamar cannot throw outside the numbers.  Stop the run, cover the middle, and their offense is then stagnant.  They should be worried about the Josh Allen affect as he is a much more prolific passer all over the field and still has the tuck and run ability when needed. 

[SoCal Deek]

It’s no surprise that the Bills are playing really good teams in the AFC playoffs this year. We all knew that would be the case, unless somebody got injured or Covid struck our opponent. But...the Bills were 13-3 this year playing against really good opponents. It’s hard for our fan base to get used to that reality....me included.

[Freddie's Dead]

No.

[Antonio]

Lamar can definitly take over a game, just like Allen can take over a game.

 

The big difference in this game will be all about the Ds. 

 

Can the Bills D force Lamar be a passer and will they stop them if thats the case?

Can the Ravens D force the Bills to run the ball and will they be able to stop the run or short passing game if thats the case?

 

Thats why I didn´t want it to be a snow game, unfortunatly it affects the Bills a bit more. 

[Stank_Nasty]

51 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

I just watched 15 minutes of Lamar on GMF and it was all his running highlights from last game. 
 

It makes him a threat no doubt. We have to respect that and our players can’t break from their assignments. 
 

Somehow I hope our D can force or dare him to beat us with his arm. Show me he has become a passer who can go toe to toe with 17.

 

 

Right the game that everyone on TV conveniently forgets to mention the Bills held him to 180 TOTAL yds....

[Hebert19]

1 hour ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

I just watched 15 minutes of Lamar on GMF and it was all his running highlights from last game. 
 

It makes him a threat no doubt. We have to respect that and our players can’t break from their assignments. 
 

Somehow I hope our D can force or dare him to beat us with his arm. Show me he has become a passer who can go toe to toe with 17.

 

 

Exactly.  And we will throw tre on brown and dare him to throw some of those high lofters his way.  There were 2 passes last week where I was thinking Tre picks that. 

[Ravens2021]

1 hour ago, Mark80 said:

Lamar cannot throw outside the numbers.  Stop the run, cover the middle, and their offense is then stagnant.  They should be worried about the Josh Allen affect as he is a much more prolific passer all over the field and still has the tuck and run ability when needed. 

 

He literally threw outside the numbers all game against the Titans...lol. Did you not watch the game?

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, Crow-Magnon said:

There are quite a few NFL QB’s who can run. You should know. Allen is one. Murray is one. But Lamar is a QB who is an integral part of the rushing attack (designed runs) as well as a serious threat to get big yards when he takes off out of the pocket when coverages open big holes for him to exploit (like his TD run against the Titans). He is a threat to run at any time and has the speed to escape anyone on the field if he has space to accelerate. 
 

The Ravens have built their offense around Jackson’s skill set. It would have been easy to let him run while trying to set him up as a typical pocket passer, but with foresight the Ravens decided to build an offense around Lamar’s unique talents. To be honest, I was skeptical. Yeah, he took over from Flacco in a down 2018 and took Baltimore to the post-season, but showed last year he could win games (his W-L record as a starter proves that). Even without the MVP honors, he proved he was a winner. And he has this year as well. Even with getting COVID-19 he bounced back and ended 2020 at 11-5. 
 

All Jackson wants to do is win. He does not care about personal stats like total pass yardage, TD passes or being the only QB who has rushed for over 1,000 yards twice. All he wants is a ring. His fellow Ravens love him because he is all about the “team”. He actually appears to be a polite and humble young man. 

Are you a Raven's fan?  I don't dislike Lamar, but this week is predominantly focused on Lamar, because he finally came back in a game and that 48 yard run (and later one to ice the game).

 

However the Titans are not a good defensive team, Vrabel turtled with 5 minutes to go 0n fourth & 2 at the Ravens 48, and refused to mix it up and watched Henry run into a brick wall over & over.

 

All the while again Lamar put up only 20 points.

 

They may win, however they certainly are setting up the narrative to crow about it.  If the Ravens lose I doubt it will be about Lamar, regardless as I expect 30 points+ from Buffalo as long as weather is not a factor.

 

Edited January 14, 2021 by Billsfan1972

[quinnearlysghost88]

Looking at the ravens schedule, I think their second cleveland game will most closely resemble how our game will transpire. Wide open. watch the highlights. 
 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

I see so many talking heads calling for the Ravens to win and the only reason why is because of Lamar.  Is he that good?  If the Ravens had anyone other than him would they still be favored?  I just find it interesting that everyone now all of sudden thinks it's so easy to stop Josh Allen but Lamar Jackson is going to be superman.  I'm not saying it won't be hard but he is not a prolific passer so I think you make him one dimensional and the DBs can do their job it will be a win.  Heck the Titans only gave up 2 TDs to them and I feel our defense should be better if Milano can find his footing lol

is the league mvp from last year that good? 
 

yeah, he’s pretty good. He is the absolute best athlete on the field when he’s out there.

 

And no if they had joe Flacco at QB they would not be as good of a team. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

11 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Are you a Raven's fan?  I don't dislike Lamar, but this week is predominantly focused on Lamar, because he finally came back in a game and that 48 yard run (and later one to ice the game).

 

However the Titans are not a good defensive team, Vrabel turtled with 5 minutes to go 0n fourth & 2 at the Ravens 48, and refused to mix it up and watched Henmry run into a brick wall over & over.

 

All the while again Lamar put up only 20 points.

 

They may win, however they certainly are setting up the narrative to crow about it.  If the Ravens lose I doubt it will be about Lamar, regardless as I expect 30 points+ from Buffalo as long as weather is not a factor.

 

I still can't believe that punt in the titans game.  I think everyone thinks lamar was struggling because of the pressure of winning his first playoff game and now he will absolutely go off but I think he's just been struggling in the playoffs because he's playing the best teams in the conference 

[RyanC883]

18 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

Looking at the ravens schedule, I think their second cleveland game will most closely resemble how our game will transpire. Wide open. watch the highlights. 
 

 

 

nut hopefully with the Ravens losing!

[Billsfan1972]

7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I still can't believe that punt in the titans game.  I think everyone thinks lamar was struggling because of the pressure of winning his first playoff game and now he will absolutely go off but I think he's just been struggling in the playoffs because he's playing the best teams in the conference 

He plays very well against bad teams.....

 

14 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

Looking at the ravens schedule, I think their second cleveland game will most closely resemble how our game will transpire. Wide open. watch the highlights. 
 

 

Yep his best game ever in almost every aspect.  I think that's a reach.

 

Also Cleveland's defense has been torched a # of times this year. 

[Bleedbuffaloblue]

All this Lamar talk is starting to get a bit annoying. That and how the Ravens are just the hottest team having now won six in a row. Thing is you need to go back and look at the five teams they played during that five game win streak to finish the season. Half the NFC Least, Cinn, Jax and Clev. Cleveland was the only team with a winning record and the Ravens won in a shootout with both teams scoring 40+. IMO not exactly a bell ringer feat. The Bills winning streak was longer and against stronger opposition.

The Baltimore win at Tenn was a good win, they only managed 20 points against a porous defense. Lamar had one hilite reel play on the 48 yard TD, but other than that was hardly the game changer everyone wants to brag him up to be.

If they think they can come to Buffalo and win putting up 20 points I think they will have a rude awakening. Their defense is decent, but they haven’t played an offense as good as the Bills maybe all year.

Should be a good game, but if one team is going to dominate my money is on Buffalo.

Go Bills!

[Jobot]

Facts:

 

1 - Titans were blown out by Greenbay 40 - 14 in Week 16

2 - TItans should have lost to Houston (a bad team) week 17.

3 - Ravens have beat the following teams leading into the playoffs - Giants, Bengals, Jaguars.

4 - Ravens beat Tennessee 20 - 13 because of ONE run by Lamar Jackson.

 

Lamar Jackson will be contained by the Bills this weekend, and unfortunately for Lamar, the narrative will continue that he still needs to develop a larger passing threat for the Ravens to be true contenders.

 

LETS. GO. BUFFALO.

[H2o]

I've been saying this since Cleveland won Sunday night, that this week would be a complete Lamar slobfest leading up to the game. All over the place everyone is talking about the Ravens are the most dangerous team in the playoffs, the vaunted defense they have, Lamar is basically unstoppable, blah, blah, blah. PFT, Undisputed, First Take, First Things First, GMFB, all of them quick to jump the Ravens hype train. I could go pull YouTube videos from all of them right now drooling over Jackson and the vast majority of them slighting Allen BECAUSE OF ONE PLAY. They talk about Lamar's 179 passing with one INT and 136 rushing with 1 TD like it is greater than Allen who completed 74% of his passes for 324 with 2 TD's, NO PICKS, and another 54 rushing with a TD. Josh accounted for more yards, more total TD's, and against a better defense WITH NO TURNOVERS. They all keep talking about the one play he didn't go down. "Same old Josh Allen", "He could have lost the game", "The Bills were totally outplayed", "His mistakes are going to cost them against Baltimore", blah, blah, blah. Josh carried us against the most complete team in the playoffs last week, got the W, and here we stand with another home game Saturday night looking for a berth in the AFC Title game. Like I have said in other threads, I hope our guys show up on that field Saturday night TOTALLY pissed off and take it out on Baltimore. 

Edited January 14, 2021 by H2o

[Billsfan1972]

7 minutes ago, H2o said:

I've been saying this since Cleveland won Sunday night, that this week would be a complete Lamar slobfest leading up to the game. All over the place everyone is talking about the Ravens are the most dangerous team in the playoffs, the vaunted defense they have, Lamar is basically unstoppable, blah, blah, blah. PFT, Undisputed, First Take, First Things First, GMFB, all of them quick to jump the Ravens hype train. I could go pull YouTube videos from all of them right now drooling over Jackson and the vast majority of them slighting Allen BECAUSE OF ONE PLAY. They talk about Lamar's 179 passing with one INT and 136 rushing with 1 TD like it is greater than Allen who completed 74% of his passes for 324 with 2 TD's, NO PICKS, and another 54 rushing with a TD. Josh accounted for more yards, more total TD's, and against a better defense WITH NO TURNOVERS. They all keep talking about the one play he didn't go down. "Same old Josh Allen", "He could have lost the game", "The Bills were totally outplayed", "His mistakes are going to cost them against Baltimore", blah, blah, blah. Josh carried us against the most complete team in the playoffs last week, got the W, and here we stand with another home game Saturday night looking for a berth in the AFC Title game. Like I have said in other threads, I hope our guys show up on that field Saturday night TOTALLY pissed off and take it out on Baltimore. 

Exactly right.  And actually a good thing imo.

 

If Buffalo blew out (or convincing win) vs. Indy, I would be more worried.  

[Crow-Magnon]

54 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Are you a Raven's fan?  I don't dislike Lamar, but this week is predominantly focused on Lamar, because he finally came back in a game and that 48 yard run (and later one to ice the game).

 

However the Titans are not a good defensive team, Vrabel turtled with 5 minutes to go 0n fourth & 2 at the Ravens 48, and refused to mix it up and watched Henry run into a brick wall over & over.

 

All the while again Lamar put up only 20 points.

 

They may win, however they certainly are setting up the narrative to crow about it.  If the Ravens lose I doubt it will be about Lamar, regardless as I expect 30 points+ from Buffalo as long as weather is not a factor.

 

Yes, I am a Ravens fan! 
 

Were the Titans good defensively? Not as good as last year, but they weren’t really great last year, either. The Ravens ended 2019 at 14-2 and ended their season with a lackluster performance against the Titans. Why? Well, sometimes it simply the defensive scheme is such that the offense just never gets in rhythm. Sometimes it’s because the other team’s offense takes over and controls the game (aka Derrick Henry). So the Ravens put stock in the DL with Campbell and Wolfe to compliment Williams to ensure they could stop big, bruising backs like Henry and Chubb. Most of the year was up and down. COVID, injuries, lack of true OTA’s and camp...it took a while for the DL to gel. And that they did last week. They stuffed Henry and made him a non-factor. But what about the Titans passing attack?

 

Well, it looked good in the first quarter. Tennessee was up 10-0 in the first 15 minutes and to be frank, I was starting to sweat a bit. I saw shades of 2019. But the HC and the OC/DC didn’t sweat. Knowing that the play-action was no longer a factor with Henry gaining no yardage to speak of, the Ravens secondary switched from mostly man-to-man to zone defense, and that change only gave up 3 points in three quarters. 
 

Yes, Vrabel took the “safe” route and his call to punt may have cost them the game. Maybe not, but it sure took the ball out of the Titans’ offense’s hands. 
 

So who knows what will happen Saturday night? Does Buffalo shut down the Ravens rushing attack and force Jackson to pass? Do the Ravens get to Allen and cover the Bills receivers tight and take away the big play and scoring opportunities? Maybe. Maybe Jackson runs for 145 yards and two TD’s and Allen throws for 345 yards and three scores and the final is 45-42, wither either team getting the W. All those scenarios are possible IMO. 

Edited January 14, 2021 by Crow-Magnon

[Billsfan1972]

9 minutes ago, Crow-Magnon said:

Yes, I am a Ravens fan! 
 

Were the Titans good defensively? Not as good as last year, but they weren’t really great last year, either. The Ravens ended 2019 at 14-2 and ended their season with a lackluster performance against the Titans. Why? Well, sometimes it simply the defensive scheme is such that the offense just never gets in rhythm. Sometimes it’s because the other team’s offense takes over and controls the game (aka Derrick Henry). So the Ravens put stock in the DL with Campbell and Wolfe to compliment Williams to ensure they could stop big, bruising backs like Henry and Chubb. Most of the year was up and down. COVID, injuries, lack of true OTA’s and camp...it took a while for the DL to gel. And that they did last week. They stuffed Henry and made him a non-factor. But what about the Titans passing attack?

 

Well, it looked good in the first quarter. Tennessee was up 10-0 in the first 15 minutes and to be frank, I was starting to sweat a bit. I saw shades of 2019. But the HC and the OC/DC didn’t sweat. Knowing that the play-action was no longer a factor with Henry gaining no yardage to speak of, the Ravens secondary switched from mostly man-to-man to zone defense, and that change only gave up 3 points in three quarters. 
 

Yes, Vrabel took the “safe” route and his call to punt may have cost them the game. Maybe not, but it sure took the ball out of the Titans’ offense’s hands. 
 

So who knows what will happen Saturday night? Does Buffalo shut down the Ravens rushing attack and force Jackson to pass? Do the Ravens get to Allen and cover the Bills receivers tight and take away the big play and scoring opportunities? Maybe. Maybe Jackson runs for 145 yards and two TD’s and Allen throws for 345 yards and three scores and the final is 45-42, wither either team getting the W. All those scenarios are possible IMO. 

Fair enough. I just was confirming based on your write-up. Nothing wrong with being a fan and looking for all the positives like many of us bills fans have done for how many years?

[H2o]

12 minutes ago, Crow-Magnon said:

Yes, I am a Ravens fan! 
 

Were the Titans good defensively? Not as good as last year, but they were really great last year, either. The Ravens ended 2019 at 14-2 and ended their season with a lackluster performance against the Titans. Why? Well, sometimes it simply the defensive scheme is such that the offense just never gets in rhythm. Sometimes it’s because the other team’s offense takes over and controls the game (aka Derrick Henry). So the Ravens put stock in the DL with Campbell and Wolfe to compliment Williams to ensure they could stop big, bruising backs like Henry and Chubb. Most of the year was up and down. COVID, injuries, lack of true OTA’s and camp...it took a while for the DL to gel. And that they did last week. They stuffed Henry and made him a non-factor. But what about the Titans passing attack?

 

Well, it looked good in the first quarter. Tennessee was up 10-0 in the first 15 minutes and to be frank, I was starting to sweat a bit. I saw shades of 2019. But the HC and the OC/DC didn’t sweat. Knowing that the play-action was no longer a factor with Henry gaining no yardage to speak of, the Ravens secondary switched from mostly man-to-man to zone defense, and that change only gave up 3 points in three quarters. 
 

Yes, Vrabel took the “safe” route and his call to punt may have cost them the game. Maybe not, but it sure took the ball out of the Titans’ offense’s hands. 
 

So who knows what will happen Saturday night? Does Buffalo shut down the Ravens rushing attack and force Jackson to pass? Do the Ravens get to Allen and cover the Bills receivers tight and take away the big play and scoring opportunities? Maybe. Maybe Jackson runs for 145 yards and two TD’s and Allen throws for 345 yards and three scores and the final is 45-42, wither either team getting the W. All those scenarios are possible IMO. 

Welcome to the board. May the best team win Saturday night. 

[Crow-Magnon]

26 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Fair enough. I just was confirming based on your write-up. Nothing wrong with being a fan and looking for all the positives like many of us bills fans have done for how many years?

Yeah, you’ve had a a tough road to hoe these many years. Regardless of what happens Saturday, I think the Bills have a bright future ahead. The Pats Reign of Terror is over lol. 

20 minutes ago, H2o said:

Welcome to the board. May the best team win Saturday night. 

It should be the best game this weekend. Although if Collingsworth jinxes Tucker again I’ll scream. 

[Big Blitz]

If Lamar doesn't have that defense he's a .500 QB that hasn't made the playoffs.  

 

Maybe it's the system.  He's averaged 20 passes the last 6 games?  For 3 years this team has obliterated teams on the ground and with a ridiculously good defense.

 

I've seen zero progression in his ability as a passer from last year to this year.  It's not that I think he's bad.  He's just a taller version of Murray but I don’t think as accurate.  Almost everything he's able to get is because he's a freak athlete.  Not an elite or even top 20 passer.  

 

So if he can run like this for 5 plus years they'll be fine.  I have questions tho once their defense is no longer elite and it's time to discuss his contract.  

Edited January 14, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Crow-Magnon]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

For 3 years this team has obliterated teams on the ground and with a ridiculously good defense.

I have to take issue with this. I would not label the Ravens defense as “ridiculously good”. It’s a good defense, better than most. I don’t think any NFL team in 2020 has a defense I would call ridiculously good. And I’ve seen some good defenses! 
 

If the DL and LB’s do their job against the run and pressuring the QB, the secondary can look great. But if a QB has time or the play-action is working, this secondary can give up the big play. Especially if Jimmy Smith is out injured, which is frequent. 

[Big Blitz]

5 minutes ago, Crow-Magnon said:

I have to take issue with this. I would not label the Ravens defense as “ridiculously good”. It’s a good defense, better than most. I don’t think any NFL team in 2020 has a defense I would call ridiculously good. And I’ve seen some good defenses! 
 

If the DL and LB’s do their job against the run and pressuring the QB, the secondary can look great. But if a QB has time or the play-action is working, this secondary can give up the big play. Especially if Jimmy Smith is out injured, which is frequent. 

 

 

I've always said when healthy it's the best D in the league and it's not even close.  

 

They've been hurt and infected with Covid a good chunk of the year and have only allowed 220 yards passing a week and only 18 points a game.   

 

In 2020.  When scoring is up.  18 points a game.  I think they were hurt by no pre season to they had new guys on that D that had to get acclimated.  

[Mat68]

I think the elements negativley affect Jacksons rushing and throwing ability.  I could be mistaken but I think it will be in his head a bit.

[Crow-Magnon]

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I've always said when healthy it's the best D in the league and it's not even close.  

 

They've been hurt and infected with Covid a good chunk of the year and have only allowed 220 yards passing a week and only 18 points a game.   

 

In 2020.  When scoring is up.  18 points a game.  I think they were hurt by no pre season to they had new guys on that D that had to get acclimated.  

I get that. But...are you (or the Bills) afraid to face the Ravens defense? No. But I’ve seen defenses that other teams were not to keen to play lol. Rule changes have put the kibosh on what a really good defense can do anymore. 

[Billzgobowlin]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

is the league mvp from last year that good? 
 

yeah, he’s pretty good. He is the absolute best athlete on the field when he’s out there.

 

And no if they had joe Flacco at QB they would not be as good of a team. 

Hasn't looked unstoppable this year

[Nextmanup]

4 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

I see so many talking heads calling for the Ravens to win and the only reason why is because of Lamar.  Is he that good?  If the Ravens had anyone other than him would they still be favored?  I just find it interesting that everyone now all of sudden thinks it's so easy to stop Josh Allen but Lamar Jackson is going to be superman.  I'm not saying it won't be hard but he is not a prolific passer so I think you make him one dimensional and the DBs can do their job it will be a win.  Heck the Titans only gave up 2 TDs to them and I feel our defense should be better if Milano can find his footing lol

Yes, he's that good.  He can take over the game single handedly.

 

He carried his team on his back last week just as much as Josh Allen carried the Bills on his.

 

Without Allen, no way in the world we win that game last week.

 

The Bills need to try to and contain him somewhat, but a better plan is to out-offense him.

 

You can't totally shut him down anyway.

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

16 minutes ago, Crow-Magnon said:

I get that. But...are you (or the Bills) afraid to face the Ravens defense?

 

 

Afraid?  No

 

Very concerned?  Hell yes

[Billsfan1972]

My concern is how much respect the refs give Lamar.

 

I worry about the Buffalo defense being too over enthusiastic and maybe a roughing the passer call or two.

 

Play within themselves and make Jackson throw outside and I don't think the Ravens can score 30 points.

[Ya Digg?]

4 hours ago, Jpsredemption said:

It’s not just Lamar. The Ravens are a good team overall. And one could argue they would still be a good team without Lamar because they’d get some more use out of skill position players like Brown and Andrews and maybe Boykins career would have taken off a bit more as well..and their defense is excellent and will be a tougher test than the Colts. 

If you’re speaking just about the defense, I don’t know if it’ll be a tougher test, just a completely different test. That was a rough defense the Bills just faced. I do think that overall the game could be tougher-unless the Bills can jump out to an early lead...I have more faith that Rivers could lead back the Colts than I do in Lamar leading back the Ravens 

[Big Blitz]

Unless you want to count the Steelers and Titans.  They haven't been challenged by WRs and a passing game remotely close to this since that Chiefs game in week 3.  Rivers in week 9.  

 

The rest have been total trash.

 

Still, that secondary is elite and you just can't run at all on the front 7.

 

They just held Henry 2K to nothing. 

 

 

I'm sure Singletary and Yeldon will get.....carries.