Divisional Playoff round: Ravens at Bills on Saturday Night Football

[NewEra]

26 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

re Allen against the Blitz, I do hope the Bills come out with some better options against cover zero. I think they default to that WR screen— which has worked well a few times, but I feel like has failed the last few times and has been kind of sniffed out by defenses. 
 

I think Allen does the best against the heavier blitzes when we can figure out the protections and he can find the favorable 1 on 1 matchups. 

Agreed regarding the wr screen.  I’d probably go a different route for the first couple audibles. I really hope we see 4 WRs sets all day. The ravens safties are both better vs the run than the pass and their 4th corner, averett, is meh.  While we’ve run 5 WR sets less than 10 times all year iirc, I’d love to see all of them out there with Lil dirty in motion, where he can run, block or go out for pass.  He may not be the best blocker, but he’s done enough to slow the rusher in the past

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

 

 

haha yep, the gameday threads are like the most extreme reactions.  Like a bunch of emotional teenage girls on their time of the month getting dumped by their 1 week boyfriend or the other side, being told "i love you" by said 1 week boyfriend.  

 

I try to only go intogameday threads if i am streaming the game to get quicker updates. Other than that I do my best to not click on the thread.

My favorite/least favorite part of the GDT is when someone goes down with injury and the extreme medical diagnoses that takes place in the 2 minutes between the guy going down, the commercial break,  and then him jogging back on the field 

Edited January 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[RichRiderBills]

1 hour ago, Nineforty said:

Listen to these couple of minutes starting at the time below:

 

1 hr, 30 minutes, 45 seconds in, Warren Sharp goes off on a tangent about the Bills and there are some interesting nuggets in there I think most fans would find interesting. I enjoy his analysis and his consulting work (and others like him) for teams has shown clear dividends for teams

 

https://podbay.fm/p/pardon-my-take/e/1610685606 

 

Thank you for this enjoyed this commentary...very relevant to what we are discussing.

 

Going to have to listen to these guys more.

Edited January 15, 2021 by RichRiderBills

[Mango]

Just checked, this is actually the first time that the Ravens are not the favorite all season long. They have been on a 17 game run until now. 

 

[Stank_Nasty]

1 hour ago, Nineforty said:

Listen to these couple of minutes starting at the time below:

 

1 hr, 30 minutes, 45 seconds in, Warren Sharp goes off on a tangent about the Bills and there are some interesting nuggets in there I think most fans would find interesting. I enjoy his analysis and his consulting work (and others like him) for teams has shown clear dividends for teams

 

https://podbay.fm/p/pardon-my-take/e/1610685606 

wow. FINALLY somebody in the media bring up the fact that the Ravens offensive juggarnaut scored a whopping 20 pts against an awful titans D. bout time..... also love his numbers about the titans running on first down, being extremely predictable and never switching from that even when the ravens were loading the box. he mentions that will most definitely not be the case with Daboll calling the plays. His in game adjustments have been on point this year. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

Just checked, this is actually the first time that the Ravens are not the favorite all season long. They have been on a 17 game run until now. 

 

They were favored vs chiefs? Wow 

[Mango]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

They were favored vs chiefs? Wow 

 It was in Baltimore so they got a bit of help. It was Ravens -1. Depending on where you placed that bet, you might have found somebody to take the game at KC -1. I just checked a single source. It was not up to date with the WC or Cincy, but I dig that up on my own. 

https://www.thelines.com/odds/baltimore-ravens/

 

 

[Scott7975]

20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

My favorite/least favorite part of the GDT is when someone goes down with injury and the extreme medical diagnoses that takes place in the 2 minutes between the guy going down, the commercial break,  and then him jogging back on the field 

Thats good but my favorite is when we get stalled on one drive early second quarter and people are talking about how we suck and its game over.  Or we are up by 3 scores and the other team finally scores and the same thing happens.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Thats good but my favorite is when we get stalled on one drive early second quarter and people are talking about how we suck and its game over.  Or we are up by 3 scores and the other team finally scores and the same thing happens.

It never fails that bills are up by multiple scores and someone will chime in with “should we put barkley in at this point???” And the other team scores on cue 

[Nineforty]

18 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Thank you for this enjoyed this commentary...very relevant to what we are discussing.

 

Going to have to listen to these guys more.

 

No doubt good stuff. Warren Sharp always impresses me. I'm pretty sure he is one reason why we lead the league in throwing on 1st down (I think)

[AllDayLJ]

37 minutes ago, Mango said:

Just checked, this is actually the first time that the Ravens are not the favorite all season long. They have been on a 17 game run until now. 

 

Not accurate. It's the first time we're not favorites with LJ at QB.

 

When we went to Pittsburgh and had half our team out with COVID we were something like 10-point underdogs. Actually almost won that game, too.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Dan]

After a week of reading this thread, numerous articles, watching videos of pundits, and contemplation; I think the one thing we can all say is this is almost certainly going to be the game of the weekend. 
 

In my simple opinion the keys to a Bills’ win are (offensively) have some designed draws and screens to negate the expected blitz, and be prepared for the delayed blitzes that the Ravens seem to like. Defensively, don’t try to get to Jackson as much as just try to contain him.  Set the edge, keep him from running and force him to throw the ball - while finally figuring out how to cover a dang tight end.  
 

Simple enough. And for the first time in a long time - I truly think the Bills coaches and players are capable of drawing up a winning game plan and executing it. (Even if it’s nothing that I just described).  What I’m trying the say is, I no longer have doubts that the Bills will show up or be completely out matched.  They can compete and beat any team in the league.  That statement doesn’t mean they ..will.. win.  I just mean they can. And I fully believe they’ll have the plan and the mentality to execute it.  How the game unfolds is yet to be determined, but it’s a nice feeling sitting here on the Eve of the divisional round and read about the Bills.  And having supreme confidence that this team can win and advance to the conference championship game.   I won’t be shocked if we win. I kinda expect it at this point.   I’ll be depressed if we lose, sure.  But that’s why they play the game.   
 

Go Bills!

[Pokebball]

38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It never fails that bills are up by multiple scores and someone will chime in with “should we put barkley in at this point???” And the other team scores on cue 

Guilty.  I actually thought that in the Colts game.  

[Pokebball]

6 minutes ago, Dan said:

After a week of reading this thread, numerous articles, watching videos of pundits, and contemplation; I think the one thing we can all say is this is almost certainly going to be the game of the weekend. 
 

In my simple opinion the keys to a Bills’ win are (offensively) have some designed draws and screens to negate the expected blitz, and be prepared for the delayed blitzes that the Ravens seem to like. Defensively, don’t try to get to Jackson as much as just try to contain him.  Set the edge, keep him from running and force him to throw the ball - while finally figuring out how to cover a dang tight end.  
 

Simple enough. And for the first time in a long time - I truly think the Bills coaches and players are capable of drawing up a winning game plan and executing it. (Even if it’s nothing that I just described).  What I’m trying the say is, I no longer have doubts that the Bills will show up or be completely out matched.  They can compete and beat any team in the league.  That statement doesn’t mean they ..will.. win.  I just mean they can. And I fully believe they’ll have the plan and the mentality to execute it.  How the game unfolds is yet to be determined, but it’s a nice feeling sitting here on the Eve of the divisional round and read about the Bills.  And having supreme confidence that this team can win and advance to the conference championship game.   I won’t be shocked if we win. I kinda expect it at this point.   I’ll be depressed if we lose, sure.  But that’s why they play the game.   
 

Go Bills!

I think we're going to see a lot of Josh going back and forth, shotgun vs under center and a lot of shifting by Knox, in order to read the blitz.  Also need some effective hard counts from Josh.  Keep the WRs spread out most of the time.  I think this offense is doing a really good job reading and responding to defenses.  The Ravens will surprise some, of course.  I just think Josh will know what's coming most of the time.

[Pokebball]

Today Max picks the Ravens and Stephan A picks the Bills???

 

 

[CaliBills]

Question for you all.

 

Do you all feel more at ease heading into this game? 

 

Not so much that we will win.  More so that the Bills have gotten four or more monkey's off their back this year and regardless if we win or lose at this point, I believe most fans will think it has been a successful year to build off of.

 

1. Josh Allen Pick has panned out and in his 3rd year, has become a legit top 5 QB for the foreseeable future.

2. Won the Division for the first time in 25 years.

3. Swept the Patriots, Dolphins, and Jets for the first time.

4. Won a playoff game in 25 years.  

 

I mean this year has been amazing being a Bills fan and going into this weekend, i am considering this year a success because we all know winning in the playoffs is difficult, more so than the regular season.

I hope we win, but if we don't I am at peace with that as well.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

Question for you all.

 

Do you all feel more at ease heading into this game? 

 

Not so much that we will win.  More so that the Bills have gotten four or more monkey's off their back this year and regardless if we win or lose at this point, I believe most fans will think it has been a successful year to build off of.

 

1. Josh Allen Pick has panned out and in his 3rd year, has become a legit top 5 QB for the foreseeable future.

2. Won the Division for the first time in 25 years.

3. Swept the Patriots, Dolphins, and Jets for the first time.

4. Won a playoff game in 25 years.  

 

I mean this year has been amazing being a Bills fan and going into this weekend, i am considering this year a success because we all know winning in the playoffs is difficult, more so than the regular season.

I hope we win, but if we don't I am at peace with that as well.

I will be disappointed if the Bills lose, mainly because I’m not ready for the season to end. I won’t be upset though. I really just wanted one playoff win to feel the season was a success. Unless it’s on some crap call from the incompetent refs.then I’ll be pissed. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[Cheektowaga Chad]

I'm still surprised by how much respect the ravens d gets

 

They're a good unit but the bills have beaten the blitz all season and I'm still hearing/reading articles about how great of a match up it is for the ravens

 

Am I missing something?

[Rubes]

Seeing a lot more folks picking the Ravens over the Bills this morning. I'm seeing very few favoring the Bills. Seems like the 'experts' are expecting it to be the one upset of the weekend.

 

Hopefully we'll use that as some motivation.

 

[The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I will be disappointed if the Bills lose, mainly because I’m not ready for the season to end. I won’t be upset though. I really just wanted one playoff win to feel the season was a success. Unless it’s on some crap call from the incompetent refs.then I’ll be pissed. 

A caller on wgr this morning was pretty funny. He said I know hockey is back but the bills season needs to keep going. Call up Williamsville south and have them play in March as long as I can keep watching bills football. 

[Process]

Looks like we might get lucky with the weather. Wind and snow supposed to pick up after midnight tomorrow. Looking ok for the game. 

[97bills]

4 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Come on man, have a little bit of perspective here. He led the league in touchdown passes last year, unanimous MVP, completes around 64% of his passes...he doesn’t have the arm talent Josh does but that doesn’t mean he’s a terrible QB. I would rather have the guy the Bills have, Jackson definitely had his flaws as a passer, but I’d the Bills go into this game thinking the exact same way you are they are going to lose

We will see in a few years we’re he is 

[Pokebball]

51 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

I'm still surprised by how much respect the ravens d gets

 

They're a good unit but the bills have beaten the blitz all season and I'm still hearing/reading articles about how great of a match up it is for the ravens

 

Am I missing something?

The Bills have faced tougher defenses this year and a few others as tough.  We did fine.  This narrative is confusing me too, but it's selling newspapers.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Pokebball

[97bills]

4 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Come on man, have a little bit of perspective here. He led the league in touchdown passes last year, unanimous MVP, completes around 64% of his passes...he doesn’t have the arm talent Josh does but that doesn’t mean he’s a terrible QB. I would rather have the guy the Bills have, Jackson definitely had his flaws as a passer, but I’d the Bills go into this game thinking the exact same way you are they are going to lose

And if we go into this game thinking like a lot of post I’ve been reading the bills have already lost. This has been a great year we’re 14-3 I say bring on the ravens it’s not like we’re facing Tom Brady 10 years ago. And I said Lamar was not a great passing QB if there running game isn’t on fire he can’t drop back 35 times and pick you a part he does make plays throwing the ball because players are wide open because there playing the run 

[BITE ME]

I think this game is going to play out exactly how the Chiefs vs Ravens game played out earlier this season.  The Ravens defense is overrated.  I won't be shocked if the stats mirror the earlier game this year.  Chiefs won rather easily.  Bills will win rather easily. 

 

 

Edited January 15, 2021 by BITE ME

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

12 minutes ago, Rubes said:

Seeing a lot more folks picking the Ravens over the Bills this morning. I'm seeing very few favoring the Bills. Seems like the 'experts' are expecting it to be the one upset of the weekend.

 

Hopefully we'll use that as some motivation.

 

 

I think people underrate the Colts and saw the Bills win a close one.

 

The Colts were a really good team this year. I think more of the Bills after beating them. The media seems to disagree with me.

[Bronxbomber21]

It just really hit me that if we win tomorrow the Buffalo Bills are going to the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP 🤩

[billsrul120]

13 minutes ago, 97bills said:

And if we go into this game thinking like a lot of post I’ve been reading the bills have already lost. This has been a great year we’re 14-3 I say bring on the ravens it’s not like we’re facing Tom Brady 10 years ago. And I said Lamar was not a great passing QB if there running game isn’t on fire he can’t drop back 35 times and pick you a part he does make plays throwing the ball because players are wide open because there playing the run 

Yea these are my thoughts exactly.  Why is everyone hyping up LJ and the Ravens when the Bills have the better offense with Allen.  Then we hear that the Bills have no running game and the Ravens will just gear up to stop the pass.  The Bills haven't run all year.  The offense has always gone through Allen's arm.  The defense on the other side has known this every game and he still lit teams up on a regular basis.

 

Over the Raven's 6 game win streak, LJ is averaging less than 21 passing attempts per game. 

Over LJ's first 10 starts, he averaged 27.6 passing attempst per game with only one game as low as 21 pass attempts and they were 6-4

 

The Raven's are telling everyone they don't think they can win with LJ throwing a lot. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by billsrul120

[Patrick Duffy]

8 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

It just really hit me that if we win tomorrow the Buffalo Bills are going to the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP 🤩

I will party like it's 1999 if they can get the W 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy

[Logic]

9 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

It just really hit me that if we win tomorrow the Buffalo Bills are going to the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP 🤩

Yep.

The Bills are TWO WINS away from the SUPER BOWL. 

Is this real life?

[RichRiderBills]

I have this one thought stuck in my gut; 

 

People are underrating our defense. 

 

I know some of the numbers from the season are a bit off, but i think they are better than the numbers and have a finest hour within them. I really feel like our defense is going to be the hero for us and bring it in this one....people are overanalyzing the Colts game.

 

I think our D is going be insulted , challenged, and really come out fired up.

 

This team does the work!

 

 

Edited January 15, 2021 by RichRiderBills

[97bills]

3 minutes ago, billsrul120 said:

Yea these are my thoughts exactly.  Why is everyone hyping up LJ and the Ravens when the Bills have the better offense with Allen.  Then we hear that the Bills have no running game and the Ravens will just gear up to stop the pass.  The Bills haven't run all year.  The offense has always gone through Allen's arm.  The defense on the other side has known this every game and he still lit teams up on a regular basis.

 

Over the Raven's 6 game win streak, LJ is averaging less than 21 passing attempts per game. 

Over LJ's first 10 starts, he never had less than 27.6 passes per game with only one game as low as 21 pass attempts and they were 6-4

 

The Raven's are telling everyone they don't think they can win with LJ throwing a lot. 

I don’t get it I’m not saying we can’t  lose the game but if Lamar is a 2 string QB in 3 years I wouldn’t be surprised. When those legs slow down his done. We’ve seen this before and I think Vick was a better passer look what the 49ers did with kap but as soon as there defense wasn’t dominant and his legs wasn’t cutting it no more it got bad and I know harbaugh saw this coming 

[Penfield45]

37 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

Question for you all.

 

Do you all feel more at ease heading into this game? 

 

Not so much that we will win.  More so that the Bills have gotten four or more monkey's off their back this year and regardless if we win or lose at this point, I believe most fans will think it has been a successful year to build off of.

 

1. Josh Allen Pick has panned out and in his 3rd year, has become a legit top 5 QB for the foreseeable future.

2. Won the Division for the first time in 25 years.

3. Swept the Patriots, Dolphins, and Jets for the first time.

4. Won a playoff game in 25 years.  

 

I mean this year has been amazing being a Bills fan and going into this weekend, i am considering this year a success because we all know winning in the playoffs is difficult, more so than the regular season.

I hope we win, but if we don't I am at peace with that as well.

I always said a division title and 1 playoff win was a huge success for us. 
 

Our SB window just opened this year and we are just getting started. I don’t think we’ve seen the best from this team yet. If we improve our defense and develop a run game we will be a top 3 team in the league every year 

[JerseyBills]

Judging by the tone on this board. You'd think we were 10 point underdogs instead of slight favorites.  

Baltimore O was inconsistent last week vs a bad Ten defense. 4 3 and outs and a pick. 

If Tannehil played a bit better,  Titans win imo. 

The Bal defense is good but our O hasn't met a defense that could slow us down in over 2 months.

Idk if it's the PTSD for all the terrible teams in the 2000s and 2010s but we are a great team right now and I'm pretty surprised the tone is what it is. I respect their team but I believe we're better and I believe we pass all over them like we do every other team. 

 

 

Edited January 16, 2021 by JerseyBills
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[SCBills]

Who thinks we see more, the same, or less Allen runs from the WC Round?

 

I could see more.  
 

Indy has a strong DL and flooded coverage with eyes on the backfield.  
 

IF Baltimore plays man, that means if Josh Allen gets past the first wave of defenders, there aren’t too many people with eyes on him, especially if they are blitzing.  

[billsrul120]

8 minutes ago, 97bills said:

I don’t get it I’m not saying we can’t  lose the game but if Lamar is a 2 string QB in 3 years I wouldn’t be surprised. When those legs slow down his done. We’ve seen this before and I think Vick was a better passer look what the 49ers did with kap but as soon as there defense wasn’t dominant and his legs wasn’t cutting it no more it got bad and I know harbaugh saw this coming 

I was agreeing with you.  The bottom line is everything the Ravens have done since drafting LJ is to shift focus away from passing and concentrate on running which is inherently lower value.

[JerseyBills]

8 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

I always said a division title and 1 playoff win was a huge success for us. 
 

Our SB window just opened this year and we are just getting started. I don’t think we’ve seen the best from this team yet. If we improve our defense and develop a run game we will be a top 3 team in the league every year 

We're a top 3 team right now. Am I watching a different team? This is crazy the disrespect ppl are showing the Bills on here

[scribo]

Is it Saturday night yet?

[97bills]

Just now, billsrul120 said:

I was agreeing with you.  The bottom line is everything the Ravens have done since drafting LJ is to shift focus away from passing and concentrate on running which is inherently lower value.

I no lol I’m at work sorry if my text was hard to understand. I hope our defense shut that run down can’t wait