Billsfan1972 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) Went through 20 years of Offensive & Defensive Rankings below & see why it was such a rough patch..... Based on ranking in yards. Offense Defense 2001 13 21 2002 11 15 2003 30 2 2004 25 2 2005 25 29 2006 30 18 2007 30 31 2008 25 14 2009 30 19 2010 25 24 2011 14 26 2012 19 22 2013 19 10 2014 26 4 2015 13 19 2016 16 19 2017 30 26 2018 29 2 2019 24 3 2020 4 10 Avg 21.9 15.8 On Defense Gregg Williams had the Bill #2 early in 2003/04 and were #4 in 2014 and McD had them #2 & #3 in 2018/19, but look at the Ofense. 24 or lower in 12 of 20 years..... This year being the first as a top 10 unit. No wonder I was so starved for 300 yards & some offense. So enjoying this year.... Well it is now 2021.....😉 Edited January 1, 2021 by Billsfan1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 So what’s your point... 😂 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Nice work. Yes, wasting tremendous defenses year after year... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 The organization is on its best footing in 25 years. Enjoy it right now! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Let it go, let it go-oooooooo.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I am still skeptical and I truly don't want to be. I live in Chicago now and all of my associates are Bear's fans. They will come to work and say "I watched your Bills last night and they are for real" As much as I love hearing this, I am still scared! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Let it go, let it go-oooooooo.... Well 19 years of watching putrid offense seems to have numbed a lot of you..... 😉 As stated there were plenty of Sundays I wonndered why I bothered watching the team. So happy many of you were okay with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 30th in offense and 26th in defense in 2017 and we busted the drought. Doesn't even make sense. That will be McDermott's greatest accomplishment until we win the Super Bowl. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Well 19 years of watching putrid offense seems to have numbed a lot of you..... 😉 As stated there were plenty of Sundays I wonndered why I bothered watching the team. So happy many of you were okay with it. Gregggg from 20 years ago ain’t got spit to do w these here new Bills. Live in the past, die in the past. Onward and upward. Eyes forward. <<insert your own preferred cliche here>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Greg Williams Gregg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: 30th in offense and 26th in defense in 2017 and we busted the drought. Doesn't even make sense. That will be McDermott's greatest accomplishment until we win the Super Bowl. Playing between the 20's that year..... A # of blowouts and putrid performances.... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2017.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: Playing between the 20's that year..... A # of blowouts and putrid performances.... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2017.htm Oh yeah, it was an ugly squad that never realistically even stood a chance in the first round. But to get 9 wins was freaking blood from a stone. That team could have gone 3-13 or worse based on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) Because the organization ran like a Mom and Pop shop with things: Promote from Within Scanned a list of Names Cash to Cap Dust-Settler Free Agents Watch the tape and correct mistakes Sleeping when Free Agency starts Marketing guy as GM 70-year old scout as GM 80-year old former Coach as GM Running an outdated Tampa-2 defense with 225 pound linebackers Director of Scouting not living in Buffalo, allowed to keep living in Florida No-Stone unturned Coaching search that resulted in 5-days in Arizona Regionalization of the team by sticking games in Toronto. The Bills weren’t even in the league after Donahoe. They stopped trying completely. Edited January 1, 2021 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 It's really just 'being a fan.' We had an unusually long rough patch. But most teams have more rough patches than times of success. Even the might Patriots went through horrible stretches prior to their run. And as for the mighty Patriots, I wouldn't trade being a Bills fan w/ any younger fan of theirs. Imagine growing up with nothing but winning. It's like being a trust-fund kid. How can you really appreciate it? This season has been amazing for us - largely because of what we went through to get here. If we had drafted Allen (or a QB like him) right after Kelly and had this kind of season & team without a pause from those years, it wouldn't be nearly as satisfying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I really like the Buffalo Bills football squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 That Jauron year where we somehow won 7 games going 30 and 31 in the ratings was really amazing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 And this is why some people don't get how important Offense(and QB) is. Why do you think there is hope in LAC, Cincy, Jax.... Because they have QB's (Trevor Lawrence on the way)? Being as bad as the Bills were on Offense for 19 years bore out in their records. McD I will concede has seen the light this year and it is all because he has opened the Offense that this is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Well 19 years of watching putrid offense seems to have numbed a lot of you..... 😉 As stated there were plenty of Sundays I wonndered why I bothered watching the team. So happy many of you were okay with it. I don't think anyone was/is OK with it. It took 25yrs to find a franchise QB lots and lots of scrubs along the way. Like someone said...Let it go...this team has a Great GM a Great Coach and a Franchise QB at last 14 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: That Jauron year where we somehow won 7 games going 30 and 31 in the ratings was really amazing. . Is that the year of the 6-3 Cleveland thriller? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I really like the Buffalo Bills football squad. The BBFS is real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I have followed this team since day one. And the way I survived most of it is looking forward, not backward. And that's what I am doing now. Enjoy this ride lords and ladies, they don't come around that often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: Gregg Douche bag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 48 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: 30th in offense and 26th in defense in 2017 and we busted the drought. Doesn't even make sense. That will be McDermott's greatest accomplishment until we win the Super Bowl. Needed a 4th down miracle from a team with nothing to play for...you could kind of tell the tide was turning Just now, Don Otreply said: Douche bag I take it you don't like the skunk stripe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Because the organization ran like a Mom and Pop shop... More like 'Corey and Trevor's Convenients Store'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Wow- hard to believe we got into the playoffs in 2017 after looking at those rankings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Well 19 years of watching putrid offense seems to have numbed a lot of you..... 😉 As stated there were plenty of Sundays I wonndered why I bothered watching the team. So happy many of you were okay with it. Some of us have lived through many more rough years with this francise than just through the last 20. Because others don't care to continually go off on tirades about the past does not mean they do not have every bit as much passion and desire for their team to do well as you do. Edited January 1, 2021 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Needed a 4th down miracle from a team with nothing to play for...you could kind of tell the tide was turning I take it you don't like the skunk stripe Well, he is what he is, and it ain’t something to be proud of. I will spell it this way from now on “douche bagg” 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Don Otreply said: Well, he is what he is, and it ain’t something to be proud of. I will spell it this way from now on “douche bagg” 😁 Greggg the Bounty Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 What do you mean "was" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Wow- hard to believe we got into the playoffs in 2017 after looking at those rankings! ***posts imaginary GIF of Andy Dalton here*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Because the organization ran like a Mom and Pop shop with things: Promote from Within Scanned a list of Names Cash to Cap Dust-Settler Free Agents Watch the tape and correct mistakes Sleeping when Free Agency starts Marketing guy as GM 70-year old scout as GM 80-year old former Coach as GM Running an outdated Tampa-2 defense with 225 pound linebackers Director of Scouting not living in Buffalo, allowed to keep living in Florida No-Stone unturned Coaching search that resulted in 5-days in Arizona Regionalization of the team by sticking games in Toronto. The Bills weren’t even in the league after Donahoe. They stopped trying completely. most of these tie straight back to Ralph Wilson when in his 80's and 90's. Once he passed, the org joined the living of the NFL. Love ya Ralph, but for your last 20 years, you ran a local rugby club in what became the world's largest sports league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Some of us have lived through many more rough years with this francise than just through the last 20. Because others don't care to continually go off on tirades about the past does not mean they do not have every bit as much passion and desire for their team to do well as you do. I just went back 20 for the heck of it. I was 9 in 1972 and remember OJ breaking through (and now I question cheering him like I did)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Wow- hard to believe we got into the playoffs in 2017 after looking at those rankings! A lot of Bills fans don't like admitting this but we got extremely lucky getting into the playoffs that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I wonder how common it is to have both a top 10 offense and defense in the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, MJS said: I wonder how common it is to have both a top 10 offense and defense in the same year. NE did it a # of times, however often a top Offensive team may rank in the bottom half Defense, because opponents are playing catch up. Doesn't happen as much vice versa and often it is detrimental as a bad offense can't score when they need to. BTW NO won the SB when they were 1st Offense & 25th Defense. Next year they were 4th in each & lost to 7-9 Seattle in WC game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, JMF2006 said: Needed a 4th down miracle from a team with nothing to play for...you could kind of tell the tide was turning I'll never forget that day because I watched the Bills win and then immediately had to leave for a first date. I told myself that I'd just enjoy myself and check the score later that night. Of course, being a Bills fan, I couldn't stop myself from excusing myself to go to the bathroom when I felt my phone vibrating in my pocket about 50 times. I sat there on the toilet with my pants on for about 15 minutes answering texts, watching the play over and over and reading this board. She must have thought I was taking a massive *****. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 We didn't get no respect!! No respect at all! (now wipe your forehead with your hanky) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1962 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 well I knew we sucked, now I have the numerical rationale for it. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Is this a 300 yards passing thread?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Went through 20 years of Offensive & Defensive Rankings below & see why it was such a rough patch..... Based on ranking in yards. 24 or lower in 12 of 20 years..... This year being the first as a top 10 unit. No wonder I was so starved for 300 yards & some offense. So enjoying this year.... Well it is now 2021.....😉 Yep, they certainly earned any indifference or hate they got. It would have been very hard to endure without the tailgating...........in fact I don't know if the team would still be here if the fans didn't stick together and find a reason to keep showing up and fund all that bad football as the NFL simultaneously tried to crack down on all that pre-game celebrating. Now that they are winning I hope people put their money where there mouth is...........and I don't mean like when @eball does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 It wasn't tough to be a Bills fan, it just sucked being a Bills fan. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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