BillsIsrael Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Wasn't it a block in the back to allow the touchdown that wasn't called? To see the whole play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsemjPaCjU starting @ 8:58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 If you posted every penalty that the refs didn't call, there would be no room left on the internet. It just seems that they called every ticky-tack penalty against the Bills. Get used to it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Well that's just the tip of the ice berg. I saw so much holding the Cards were getting away with it was crazy. Yet they called similar plays against the Bills. Refs are very inconsistent. If your'e going to call it, that's fine, but call it like it is on a consistent basis. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Don’t do it to yourself. You can’t change it. We’re on to the bye week 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 You could find something on most plays if you want to drive yourself nuts. We had a stretch in the 3Q with 5 penalties in 7 plays and we earned every one of them. The only questionable call was the late hit 26 put on a DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Saw that i was waiting for a flag but nothing ever became of it . Bottom line is the Bills had that game won but had way to many mistakes in the 3rd that they could have capitalized on but didn't way to many 3 & outs & the INT's sure didn't help . But that penalty could have stopped 1 score if the officials caught it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) The Officiating in the NFL is so freaking inconsistent it is maddening. But that said the official excuse is weak. Bills have been very lucky on major calls helping them (See Rams) so they caught the wrong end of that Luck against AZ. (Home Teams always tend to get the benefit of calls, just another reason it is hard to win on the Road). Edited November 16, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsIsrael said: Wasn't it a block in the back to allow the touchdown that wasn't called? To see the whole play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsemjPaCjU starting @ 8:58 That’s a block from the side, which is legal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The Officiating in the NFL is so freaking inconsistent it is maddening. But that said the official excuse is weak. Bills have been very lucky on major calls helping them (See Rams) so they caught the wrong end of that Luck against AZ. (Home Teams always tend to get the benefit of calls, just another reason it is hard to win on the Road). Officiating has been horrendous. I don't know why people keep bring up the Rams penalty like we got a break, to the letter of the rule that was a penalty. When we are Home we rarely if ever get the benefit of calls. When I watch replays of games I see both teams holding but the Bills being flagged for it. PI on both sides but the Bills being Flagged for it. This kind of constantly bad officiating will cost us close games probably around 2 a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Well that's just the tip of the ice berg. I saw so much holding the Cards were getting away with it was crazy. Yet they called similar plays against the Bills. Refs are very inconsistent. If your'e going to call it, that's fine, but call it like it is on a consistent basis. Missed a CLEAR taunting penalty late in the game when the Bills took possession for their final drive. Right in front of the ref, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I thought there was quite a bit of that but I'm biased and will was the all 22 before I get bothered by it. It was a great game. Losing on a toss up always sucks. I'm glad that they're on a bye now. Get healthy, refueled and come out firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 There was also 2 block in the back on a return that’s the cards brought back tot he 30 or 40 and scored on that drive. Refs played a hand in this game. Can’t beat the other team and the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, BillsIsrael said: Wasn't it a block in the back to allow the touchdown that wasn't called? To see the whole play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsemjPaCjU starting @ 8:58 I saw that real time and thought the same, uncalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGahee Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, fasteddie said: If you posted every penalty that the refs didn't call, there would be no room left on the internet. It just seems that they called every ticky-tack penalty against the Bills. Get used to it. God our fans are such whiners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecos Bills Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Curse of a small market team going up against the latest QB darling of the league... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 hours ago, fasteddie said: If you posted every penalty that the refs didn't call, there would be no room left on the internet. It just seems that they called every ticky-tack penalty against the Bills. Get used to it. Sit back and let it happen is the weakest thing I’ve ever heard. Always fight for what is right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That’s a block from the side, which is legal, except for when the Bills do it... FIFY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That’s a block from the side, which is legal. Considering he is turned around facing the line of scrimmage, it’s a crack back block then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsIsrael Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 I'm not trying to blame the refs - just trying to understand the rules better 4 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That’s a block from the side, which is legal. What I know (which could be wrong) is if you push/block the players while touching the numbers on the back of his jersey - that's a block in the back. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 That one didn’t bother me, but DPI on Worley followed by a brutal no-call on Smoke had my fuming. Didn’t matter since Allen and Diggs delivered in the clutch, but yeah, I was 😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That’s a block from the side, which is legal. It's also a blindside block which isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Bob in STL said: You could find something on most plays if you want to drive yourself nuts. We had a stretch in the 3Q with 5 penalties in 7 plays and we earned every one of them. The only questionable call was the late hit 26 put on a DL. I didn't think that one was questionable! Definitely a penalty by the book and totally unnecessary. You think that would have been drilled into the team after the Cody Ford penalty last season that potentially cost them the playoff victory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: That one didn’t bother me, but DPI on Worley followed by a brutal no-call on Smoke had my fuming. Didn’t matter since Allen and Diggs delivered in the clutch, but yeah, I was 😡 The holding call against Winters was when I knew we were up against it...far away from the play, arms barely extended, and they haven't been calling offensive holding like that all year. Negated a big first down throw iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: The holding call against Winters was when I knew we were up against it...far away from the play, arms barely extended, and they haven't been calling offensive holding like that all year. Negated a big first down throw iirc Yep...that was the one where I said “oh come on, you’ve called every little ticky tack thing against us and absolutely nothing against them; just let one go for goodness sake” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 If were gonna get petty then I'll have a go....I hate the media making it that Murrey is a god amongst men. Jesus christ, I'm sick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I would've been 100 percent with you man... I just rewatched it tho. The pic is deceiving. From what I can see it was clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 You know, I'm fine with no calls if they aren't super egregious (one such egregious no call was the missed PI on Brown where the defender just ran right through him before the ball got there). I can't stand the bad calls, though. They called PI on Worley, I believe, and it looked pretty clean to me. And also they didn't show it on the replay (probably because nothing actually happened) but the penalty on Neal (I believe) on special teams had him super fired up and I wouldn't be surprised if that was a bad call too. I get missing things sometimes, but if you are going to call something it should be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I didn't think that one was questionable! Definitely a penalty by the book and totally unnecessary. You think that would have been drilled into the team after the Cody Ford penalty last season that potentially cost them the playoff victory. I know fans love seeing the opposing player get surprised and get their bell rung a little..........but not sure why fans are having such a hard time grasping this rule. If your intention is just to block then don't throw your body into it......just extend your arms and move your feet.........if you try to stop them cold with any kind of violent collision it's going to get a penalty. The same people who hate this also probably hated Jarvis Landry plowing over Aaron Williams and finishing off his career...........it's always "just football" until its your player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, BillsIsrael said: I'm not trying to blame the refs - just trying to understand the rules better What I know (which could be wrong) is if you push/block the players while touching the numbers on the back of his jersey - that's a block in the back. Am I wrong? You can’t put a hand on the back of a player while blocking them. That’s said, I watched the play several times on the broadcast from 3 angles. It looks like he hits him from the side as he dives for Murray and that’s where contact is made. His left hand may have touched his back on the way down, but that’s not a block in the back IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It's also a blindside block which isn't The Cardinal blocked in the direction of the LOS, but he wasn’t moving in that direction. I believe that is a necessary condition for it to be an illegal blindside block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: The Cardinal blocked in the direction of the LOS, but he wasn’t moving in that direction. I believe that is a necessary condition for it to be an illegal blindside block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That’s a block from the side, which is legal. If a Bill did that, it would be blind side block on a defenseless player, 15 yards and ejection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That’s a block from the side, which is legal. Unless singletary does it to a defensive tackle... 14 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The Cardinal blocked in the direction of the LOS, but he wasn’t moving in that direction. I believe that is a necessary condition for it to be an illegal blindside block. Arent you allowed to block in the back within the tackle box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: As in if an offensive player is facing the LOS they can block a defender coming at or by them (rather than get trucked) as long as it’s above the waist. But they can’t run toward the defender and do that. That’s how I understand the rule. 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Unless singletary does it to a defensive tackle... Arent you allowed to block in the back within the tackle box? Yes. 3 yards on either side of the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Don’t do it to yourself. You can’t change it. We’re on to the bye week Do you think we can beat the Bye Week? I wonder what the over/under is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: As in if an offensive player is facing the LOS they can block a defender coming at or by them (rather than get trucked) as long as it’s above the waist. But they can’t run toward the defender and do that. That’s how I understand the rule. a blindside block “is a foul if a player initiates a block in which he is moving toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder.” The guy initiates contact at the 4 yard line and ends up at the 6...he's pretty clearly moving toward his own end line. You misunderstand the rule as it's written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, fasteddie said: If you posted every penalty that the refs didn't call, there would be no room left on the internet. It just seems that they called every ticky-tack penalty against the Bills. Get used to it. Bills will never get calls. Once every 10 games they might throw us a bone like the Rams game but yesterday was all about the NFL'S new shiny toy. Kyler Murray. That 3rd quarter debacle alone said it all. Sean is a good player motivator and process administrator, but as a game day coach he's completely mediocre. More penalties and no adjustments again going into 3rd qtr. Same story every game. And as much as Josh struggled yesterday, he's carrying this team right now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Do you think we can beat the Bye Week? I wonder what the over/under is Not with the way the defense is playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I think Singletary got hit with one of those blindside deals...even though it seemed he grazed the defensive lineman. barely a hit. I was pissed after that one. It feels like the Bills are the only club that gets called for that penalty. And Josh got a nice smack in the facemask at least twice... Shoulda been called but nope. Anyway, stop the hail mary and no one cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: a blindside block “is a foul if a player initiates a block in which he is moving toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder.” The guy initiates contact at the 4 yard line and ends up at the 6...he's pretty clearly moving toward his own end line. You misunderstand the rule as it's written. Or you misunderstand it. And here’s why that’s the case: - That the phrase “in which he is moving toward or parallel to” is included. If the intent of the rule is that a stationary player can’t block toward his own LOS, then why include that phrase at all? The rule would be more simply stated. It would just read that blocking in the direction of the LOS outside the designated area is illegal. They added the requirement of movement toward the LOS for a reason. - If blocking toward the LOS is considered moving in that direction then every downfield block that starts directed away from the LOS but the defender gets turned parallel to the LOS would be a penalty. That’s not the case obviously. And that happens a lot as defenders try to get past blockers. - Any offensive player outside the tackle box who facing parallel to the LOS or back toward it would be defenseless under your interpretation. Again, that’s obviously not the intent of the rule. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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