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Week 10: Bills at Cardinals


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13 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

So I’m watching tv today and some of the analysts are already saying the Bills will have a real tough game because of Kyler Murray...now this is not to say he doesn’t have talent, he obviously does, and admittedly I’m going off of stats, but have you guys looked at some of the games he has had in his career so far? He had a game where he barely threw for 100 yards, a couple of games this season where his numbers have been terrible, in reading up a little bit about him I am reading that he has trouble getting past his first read-sounds awfully familiar doesn’t it? Why does he get such a huge benefit of the doubt while Josh gets crushed since the day he was drafted? 


everyone likes to pull for the little guy

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

What are the odds that we get Nance and Romo this week? According to NFL.com, there are only 3 games on CBS this week and all are on at 4pm. Nance and Romo have to be doing one of them whch might end up being Chargers vs Dolphins 

 

My guess is they will do the Bengals at Steelers. That game is a 4:25 start which usually means it's broadcast to the entire country. The Bills-Cards and Chargers-Dolphins are both 4:05 starts. These games will probably get the 2nd and 3rd announcing teams from CBS.

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13 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

What are the odds that we get Nance and Romo this week? According to NFL.com, there are only 3 games on CBS this week and all are on at 4pm. Nance and Romo have to be doing one of them whch might end up being Chargers vs Dolphins 


Zero—we get Charles Davis though!

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1 minute ago, Greg S said:

 

My guess is they will do the Bengals at Steelers. That game is a 4:25 start which usually means it's broadcast to the entire country. The Bills-Cards and Chargers-Dolphins are both 4:05 starts. These games will probably get the 2nd and 3rd announcing teams from CBS.

bengals steelers is on fox and we're on CBS.... which is odd since we're the team playing the NFC squad.

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5 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

bengals steelers is on fox and we're on CBS.... which is odd since we're the team playing the NFC squad.

Road team determines the network...it's why Seahawks game was on Fox....but I think this year they changed it up a bit and AFC games on Fox and NFC CBS

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Just now, Stank_Nasty said:

Since we're on FOX, maybe we'll get lucky and draw up Aikman and he can spend all game breaking down every single incompletion again and telling us how Allen will just never be able to hit the broadside of a barn. 

Fox again?  If the road team is AFC, isn't it CBS?

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The number one concern for our defense will be keeping Kyler Murray in the pocket.

He's arguably the best running QB in the NFL.

 

Murray doesn't have Lamar Jackson's juke moves, or Josh Allen's ability to run over tacklers.  But he's still very fast, and very elusive.

 

 

 

 

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Just now, mjt328 said:

The number one concern for our defense will be keeping Kyler Murray in the pocket.

He's arguably the best running QB in the NFL.

 

Murray doesn't have Lamar Jackson's juke moves, or Josh Allen's ability to run over tacklers.  But he's still very fast, and very elusive.

 

 

 

 

 

Have to stop him in his first couple of yards or he's gone for good. 

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1 hour ago, Greg S said:

 

My guess is they will do the Bengals at Steelers. That game is a 4:25 start which usually means it's broadcast to the entire country. The Bills-Cards and Chargers-Dolphins are both 4:05 starts. These games will probably get the 2nd and 3rd announcing teams from CBS.

It says on the NFL.com site that the Bengals vs Steelers game is on Fox. The 3 games on at 4:00 on CBS is Chargers vs Dolphins, Bills vs Cardinals and Broncos vs Raiders. So, unless the Steelers game moves to CBS unless that's a typo on NFL.com, we could have the number 1 game on CBS. Roethlisberger looks like he could be missing that game to so it might not appeal to many people seeing Mason Rudolph going against the Bengals

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1 hour ago, Greg S said:

 

My guess is they will do the Bengals at Steelers. That game is a 4:25 start which usually means it's broadcast to the entire country. The Bills-Cards and Chargers-Dolphins are both 4:05 starts. These games will probably get the 2nd and 3rd announcing teams from CBS.

I dont think Nance will be available for football this weekend.  He is usually the main guy on the Masters which is going on.

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

An issue with kick returners (not Roberts in particular) is that their stats are inflated--and often meaningless.  

 

A touchback gets you to the 25.    Theoretically,  a returner could return every kick from the back of the endzone to the 25 (35 yards) and he would, by a wide margin, be the greatest returner in the history of the NFL---yet his team would be no better off than if he had let them all go as touchbacks.

 

Plus, it makes no sense that returners get credit for yards they travel (only forward)  in the endzone.  They don't give QB's/receivers/runners an extra 10  yards in stats if they run through the back of the EZ after crossing the plane.

 

A better metric would be how many net yards beyond the 25 a returner gets.  A running total for the year would reflect the leaders.  Granted, not all kicks will have gone into the endzone if not fielded by the returning team, but most kicks are touchbacks.  The only point of running the kick out of the EZ or from the 1 or 2 (instead of letting it bounce into the EZ is that you hope the guy will break a big one.  The odds are overwhelmingly against this.

 

Looking at it this way, Roberts stats are this:

 

16 returns (of 50)

15 were returned from the EZ up to about the 1 yard line (i.e., would have been touchbacks)

8 of them he crossed the 25 yard line (by 7, 4, 17, 1, 6, 1, 18, 60 yards)

7 of them he did not (losing 5, 1, 2, 7, 2, 1, 2 yards compared to touchback)

1 he made it just to the 25 (a "24 yard return" from the 1)

 

So his "+/-" would be +84 yards over touchback.

 

Not sure where that puts him but probably near the top.

 

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16 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Since we don't see the cards very often, I'm looking forward to reading their message boards.  Hopefully there won't be any c. 2018 hot takes about Tim Tebow impersonator Josh Allen.  Hopefully.

i got on one last night and you'd never guess they were 5-3. their preview thread for the bills was pure doom and gloom..... very similar to this place after a loss really. 

 

not many think they'll win.

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Also oh, I was looking at stuff on the bills page and I know we're always talking about how motor and Moss don't really have that second gear down the field to hit. Well I believe his name is Christian, the rugby player that we have, in preseason year before last he hit 21 miles an hour on that long run. 

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Daboll commenting on his pass heavy game plan against the Seahawks:

 

"I was hoping for 31 pass plays in the first half but we had to stick a couple runs in there"

(the breakdown was 28 pass plays and 3 runs)

 

 

11 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

i got on one last night and you'd never guess they were 5-3. their preview thread for the bills was pure doom and gloom..... very similar to this place after a loss really. 

 

not many think they'll win.

 

For a team that's been successful much more recently, the Cardinals fans have a good case of "battered fan syndrome"

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6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Daboll commenting on his pass heavy game plan against the Seahawks:

 

"I was hoping for 31 pass plays in the first half but we had to stick a couple runs in there"

(the breakdown was 28 pass plays and 3 runs)

 

 

 

For a team that's been successful much more recently, the Cardinals fans have a good case of "battered fan syndrome"

i was really surprised to see how low they were on their team. its gonna be a heck of a game i think.

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14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

For a team that's been successful much more recently, the Cardinals fans have a good case of "battered fan syndrome"

 

7 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

 

i was really surprised to see how low they were on their team. its gonna be a heck of a game i think.

 

I have it on pretty good authority that Kyler Murray made "the face" after Sunday's loss so the Bills better watch out.

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15 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

i was really surprised to see how low they were on their team. its gonna be a heck of a game i think.

 

A day after losing a game you expected to win, you were winning and then lost, I'm not surprised.

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Hokay, so since many sources aren't breaking it down per-game, let's have a look

 

On Defense:

Cardinals #8 in PPG given up with 23 ppg.  19th in YPG given up with 370, 19th in pass ypg given up, 22 in rush ypg given up

Bills #19 in PPG given up with 26 ppg.  18th in YPG given up with 365, 15th in pass ypg, 21 in rush ypg

 

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Geesh if that were the Bills, going by that Kroft INT they would have awarded the INT to Miami and given each player a free case of beer

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24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Hokay, so since many sources aren't breaking it down per-game, let's have a look

 

On Defense:

Cardinals #8 in PPG given up with 23 ppg.  19th in YPG given up with 370, 19th in pass ypg given up, 22 in rush ypg given up

Bills #19 in PPG given up with 26 ppg.  18th in YPG given up with 365, 15th in pass ypg, 21 in rush ypg

 

On Offense:

Cardinals #6 in PPG with 29 scored.  #1 in YPG with 422.  #12 in pass yards, 259, #2 in run yards, 163

Bills #14 in PPG with 27 scored.  #12 in YPG with 377, #7 in pass ypg with 277 and #25 in run yards, 100

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